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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Baylor was one of the hottest teams in the nation towards the end of the year, calling them shitty kind of shows your ignorance. I would say that Kansas St would have the best case, as if they and OU win, then the BIg-12 was by far the best conference in the nation.

    I agree about Baylor, but this is the issue when judging conferences by bowl game records.

    I don't believe the Big 12 was the best conference this year, but they had an impressive bowl showing. The SEC was overrated, but still the best conference.

    BetterOff tried to argue that the Big East was as good as the Big 12 because the Big 12 hadn't performed as well in bowl games over the years. That's ridiculous. If you watch the games you clearly tell there is a difference in caliber of the conference as a whole, and that gets lost when comparing this conference's bowl record vs. that conference's bowl record.

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  • RATT said...

    Yeah I didn't see that LSU loss to Clemson at all. Especially when Sammy Watkins went out early. Those were two fairly evenly ranked teams so I didn't even include that game in my previous post. I still figured that LSU would beat them by 10 to 14.

    Thing with LSU is that Mettenberger can keep even a straight lousy team in the ballgame. He only had one good game this year and that was against us.

    I still thought LSU would be able to run the ball well enough to score points.

    As an CFB fan who doesn't know much about LSU, their QB coach should be replaced very soon. I'm not sure how much turnover they've had at the position, but whatever they're trying clearly isn't working.

    You have to have a competent QB to win championships, and that has been the missing piece for LSU as far as I can tell. They have the talent everywhere else to win titles.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Baylor was one of the hottest teams in the nation towards the end of the year, calling them shitty kind of shows your ignorance. I would say that Kansas St would have the best case, as if they and OU win, then the BIg-12 was by far the best conference in the nation.

    What was their record? This isn't the pro's where they have playoffs and the season doesn't matter once the playoffs start. Who fvcking cares how "hot" they were at the end of the season? Fact of the matter is that Baylor lost how many games this season? And how many games did Stanford lose (that would be two and one of them to ND). Did OU's only loss come to a team that just won the Rose Bowl on a lfield goal in OT?

    Kansas State got spanked by a team that was 8-5 and 4-5 in their own conference. You not being able to recognize that college football doesn't work like the pro's and even stating that KSU has a stronger case than OU at this point doesn't only show your ignorance, but is absolutely laughable. If you want to talk shit to me at least make a case that makes fvcking sense.

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  • RATT said...

    What was their record? This isn't the pro's where they have playoffs and the season doesn't matter once the playoffs start. Who fvcking cares how "hot" they were at the end of the season? Fact of the matter is that Baylor lost how many games this season? And how many games did Stanford lose (that would be two and one of them to ND). Did OU's only loss come to a team that just won the Rose Bowl on a lfield goal in OT?

    Kansas State got spanked by a team that was 8-5 and 4-5 in their own conference. You not being able to recognize that college football doesn't work like the pro's and even stating that KSU has a stronger case than OU at this point doesn't only show your ignorance, but is absolutely laughable. If you want to talk shit to me at least make a case that makes fvcking sense.

    you labeled baylor a shitty team, when they are very clearly not. Anyway, IMO who you beat is more important than to who you lost.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MJRuffalo on 1/3/2013 at 4:21 AM

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    you labeled baylor a shitty team, when they are very clearly not. Anyway, IMO who you beat is more important than who you lost too.

    You claimed that Kansas State had a better case at being ranked higher than Oregon at this point which is clearly wrong. If you think KSU has a better resume than Oregon, I don't know what to tell you.

    KSU is the only team worth a damn that Baylor beat. They lost to WVU, TCU, Texas, Oklahoma, and Iowa State for christ's sake. They needed overtime to beat Texas Tech.

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  • RATT said...

    You claimed that Kansas State had a better case at being ranked higher than Oregon at this point which is clearly wrong. If you think KSU has a better resume than Oregon, I don't know what to tell you.

    KSU is the only team worth a damn that Baylor beat. They lost to WVU, TCU, Texas, Oklahoma, and Iowa State for christ's sake. They needed overtime to beat Texas Tech.

    I think Oregon is a much better team than Kansas St. I said that if they beat Oregon, and OU beats TAMU, then Kansas St has a legit case for finishing the season #1.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    I think Oregon is a much better team than Kansas St. I said that if they beat Oregon, and OU beats TAMU, then Kansas St has a legit case for finishing the season #1.

    Would love to hear why you think that they would even have a chance in hell of having a case over the winner of Notre Dame/Alabama.

    Don't worry, I'll wait.

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  • RATT said...

    Would love to hear why you think that they would even have a chance in hell of having a case over the winner of Notre Dame/Alabama.

    Don't worry, I'll wait.

    better resume, plain and simple. If those things happen of course.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    better resume, plain and simple. If those things happen of course.

    KSU would have beaten a grand total of three ranked teams (If they beat Oregon).

    Their resume isn't close to either Bama or ND's. Are you going to keep spouting stupidity?

    Edit: Texas and Oklahoma and Texas is garbage this year so far. Impressive

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by RATT on 1/3/2013 at 4:32 AM

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  • RATT said...

    KSU would have beaten a grand total of three ranked teams (If they beat Oregon).

    Their resume isn't close to either Bama or ND's. Are you going to keep spouting stupidity?

    Edit: Texas and Oklahoma and Texas is garbage this year so far. Impressive

    you are incorrect. I guarantee that Kansas St will finish with a stronger SOS than Alabama, if OU beats TAMU (most likely even without that happening)

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  • Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year,
    but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes.
    Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4.
    Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia.
    Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes.
    The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State
    =========================================
    #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14
    #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38
    Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21
    #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23
    #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M,
    one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss.
    (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14.
    Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game
    Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss.
    Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car,
    and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's
    anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and
    Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    NcaaAssassinG13

  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet...think about that for a second.

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  • Ohio State already has half the MNC wrapped up.

    ND and Bama simply playing for the other half.

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  • The only team that got "exposed" was UF. LSU lost by one point to a top 15 team, hardly paradigm shifting.

    Let the rest of the bowl season play out. Still a big Cotton Bowl and National championship left to play. If the SEC finishes 6-3 then no one got exposed except the teams that lost

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    Try this link. Might help you out. You type so much and yet say so little. Perhaps a technical writing course will help. What is technical writing? It's a course that will help you get your point across in as few words as possible. After the 800th word of your manifesto you sort of lost your audience there Mr. Kaczynski.

    Let me google that for you

    For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than google it for themselves.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    You win the internet.

    Good grief this is just so full of stupid.

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  • Not sure why the OP is asking tBB when he could just look at the AP Poll, see that Bama is #2 by a not insignificant voting margin.

    But if I were voting, it would be Alabama. They would have not only played a tougher overall schedule, but they had two extra games in championships, winning both. Not sure why anyone would think OSU should jump Bama.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year,
    but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes.
    Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4.
    Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia.
    Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes.
    The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State
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    #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14
    #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38
    Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21
    #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23
    #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M,
    one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss.
    (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14.
    Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game
    Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss.
    Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car,
    and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's
    anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and
    Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    The Fail is strong with you

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  • rolBAMAballs said...

    Ok guys lets wrap this thread up. Time to vote on a name for bamas current dynasty

    B.D.B.

    Been Done Before.

    /thread

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    Read this for the laughs, and it more than delivered.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    Sorry this will be long, but here's my take - The last 3 days have proved what I have been saying all year, but finally it's more than just me talking about it, now everyone has seen it with their own eyes. Hold on SEC people, just hear me out on this.

    The season started with Alabama smashing a Michigan team that had been ranked as high as #8. But Michigan turned out to be the 5th best team in the Big 10. They nearly lost at home to Air Force the next week and could have easily finished 5-7 or 6-6 after beating Nwestern in OT and Mich St by 2.

    Then two Pac teams that had been shitty the year before, UCLA and Oregon St, beat Nebraska and Wisconsin. But instead of giving those Pac teams credit, the perception just became that the Big 10 was more terrible than ever this year. I even bought into that a little bit, especially when Cal almost beat Ohio State.

    So as Ohio State just kept winning it was dismissed as the Big Ten is shitty. But then 2 even match-ups happened between the SEC and B1G and the results changed the perception or at least should have. By even, I mean the #5 team from the B1G (Michigan) played the #5-6 team from the SEC (South Car) and gave them all they could handle and basically had SCar on the ropes, but UM lost in the last few seconds.

    Let me back up - Some might disagree with how I came to the conclusion that Michigan is the 5th best team in the BIG. Obviously OSU is #1, then it get's tricky, but I would go Wisconsin #2, Nebraska #3, and Penn St #4. Although the Penn St guy has a point because they beat Wisconsin by 3 at home, but Nebraska also beat Penn St by 9 at home, but IMO a 40 beat beatdown on a neutral field for the Conf title trumps all of that and Wisconsin comes in solid at #2 and they played like it against Stanford. Nebraska beat Penn St by 9 and Michigan by 14. Although Michigan didn't play either Wisky or Penn St, their best win was in OT vs Nwestern, which makes it easy to see that Michigan is #5 and Nwestern #6, followed closely by Mich St at #7 who lost to Nwestern by 3.

    So the other even match-up was the #3 team from the BIG Nebraska vs the #2 or #3 team from the SEC Georgia. Georgia got the win 45-31, Nebraska proved they could play with UGA leading 31-23 near or at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now the #6 team from the B1G Nwestern beat the #7 SEC team Vandy by 10 earlier this year and beat the #8-9 SEC team Miss State by 14.

    So after considering all that take a look at Alabama & Ohio State's resumes. The # is the conference rank of the team.

    #1 Alabama (in order of best wins) #1 Ohio State ========================================= #3/4 @LSU 21-17 ........................#2@Wisconsin 21-14 #2/3 Georgia 32-28.......................#3 Nebraska 63-38 Michigan 41-14..............................#5 Michigan 26-21 #8/9 Miss State 38-7......................#4 Penn St 35-23 #8/9 Ole Miss 33-14.......................#7@Mich State 17-16

    With Ohio St being undefeated, and Bama having the loss to #5/6 A&M, one of Bama's main wins has gets eliminated to balance out the loss. (So the possible win over ND stays off the list ).

    Considering that Ohio St and Wisconsin demolished Nebraska, and Georgia beat Nebraska by 14. Considering that the #5 teams of each conf Michigan and South Car played an even game Considering that wins over Penn St and Mich St are much better wins than Miss St and Ole Miss. Considering that Florida had the most impressive resume within the SEC beating LSU, A&M, South Car, and losing to Georgia by 1 score, only to lose to a Louisville team that lost to UConn and to Syracuse by 20.

    Alabama's resume, even with a win over ND doesn't look more impressive to me than Ohio State's anymore after seeing LSU lose to Clemson, Georgia struggle with Nebraska, and Florida lose to Louisville, and Northwestern beat Miss State after having already beaten Vandy. That's just my very long opinion.

    This is just retarded.

    btw, let me clue you in on something - you have no say in this "AP Voting" matter, and no one is stating the SEC is exposed except you SEC haters on tBB.

    so some teams came to play - how bout we give them credit instead of discrediting the other teams to make your stupid @$$ points - oh wait, you didn't make a point.

    This post was edited by viper_36 on 1/3/2013 at 9:45 AM

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  • Wait...didn't the SEC go 2-1 vs. the Big Ten on New Year's Day?

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  • JohannJr said...

    Wait...didn't the SEC go 2-1 vs. the Big Ten on New Year's Day?

    Nothing to thump your chest about, the two best B1G teams weren't allowed to play. This was also a very down year for the B1G.

    Keep on keeping on though.

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