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If I were Texas

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Not if OU or LSU sweep him up first.

    Which is why we needed to get rid of Mack yesterday. If Mack is gone after next year though, he's ours if we want him.

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  • Canadianhorn said...

    Which is why we needed to get rid of Mack yesterday. If Mack is gone after next year though, he's ours if we want him.

    Yep

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    "A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."

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  • Harbaugh has NFL success to back his greatness. He gets his teams to compete, and his teams are tough as hell. Also runs a great offensive scheme.

    I'd take Harbaugh over any coach in America at Michigan.

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  • If I were Texas...

    I would join the SEC immediately, enjoy an easier schedule and lots of future SEC games like this years 66-31 blowout at Ole Miss which could get Ash the Heisman, continue the state of Texas' domination of Alabama, and finish top 10.

    A&M laid the blueprint on how to escape mediocrity.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by NcaaAssassinG13 on 1/5/2013 at 7:52 PM

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    If I were Texas...

    I would join the SEC immediately, enjoy an easier schedule and lots of future SEC games like this years 66-31 blowout at Ole Miss which could get Ash the Heisman, continue the state of Texas' domination of Alabama, and finish top 10.

    A&M laid the blueprint on how to escape mediocrity.

    Even if they actually could join the SEC they wouldn't because it would be admitting A&M made the right move. Texas politics won't allow it either.

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    If I were Texas...

    I would join the SEC immediately, enjoy an easier schedule and lots of future SEC games like this years 66-31 blowout at Ole Miss which could get Ash the Heisman, continue the state of Texas' domination of Alabama, and finish top 10.

    A&M laid the blueprint on how to escape mediocrity.

    If they want an easy schedule, they should join the PAC. Y'all already extended an offer, too, so it's perfect. thumbsup

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    If I were Texas...

    I would join the SEC immediately, enjoy an easier schedule and lots of future SEC games like this years 66-31 blowout at Ole Miss which could get Ash the Heisman, continue the state of Texas' domination of Alabama, and finish top 10.

    A&M laid the blueprint on how to escape mediocrity.

    Any person who isn't a complete idiot or troll understands that A&M might have been a seven win team with Showers at quarterback instead of Manziel.

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    "A political call, the fall guy accord...We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train..."

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Any person who isn't a complete idiot or troll understands that A&M might have been a seven win team with Showers at quarterback instead of Manziel.

    Golden Showers?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    If they want an easy schedule, they should join the PAC. Y'all already extended an offer, too, so it's perfect.

    If the Pac scheduled like the SEC, then I would agree with you. But they don't.

    For example,
    Alabama only played 2 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play before CCG.
    (2 of 6 not counting Bama)

    Georgia only played 3 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play before CCG.
    (3 of 6 not counting UGA)

    Texas A&M only played 3 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play
    (3 of 6 not counting A&M)

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    On the other hand, in the Pac12

    Stanford played 6 of the top 7 Pac teams in conf play before CCG
    (6 of 6 not counting Furd)

    Oregon played 5 of the top 7 PAC teams in conf play
    (5 of 6 not counting Oregon)

    USC played 5 of the top 7 PAC teams in conf play
    (5 of 6 not counting SC)

    That's the way it typically goes in the SEC, which has 6 high quality teams this year.
    But if you only play half of them in the SEC, then another conf that has only 3 or 4 high quality teams
    but they all play each other, becomes just as tough to navigate as the SEC.

    But this scheduling truth, is always conveniently avoided by the "pundits" at Espin and the other Bcs parasites.

    This post was edited by NcaaAssassinG13 on 1/5/2013 at 9:06 PM

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  • NcaaAssassinG13 said...

    If the Pac scheduled like the SEC, then I would agree with you. But they don't.

    For example,
    Alabama only played 2 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play before CCG.
    (2 of 6 not counting Bama)

    Georgia only played 3 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play before CCG.
    (3 of 6 not counting UGA)

    Texas A&M only played 3 of the top 7 SEC teams during conference play
    (3 of 6 not counting A&M)

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    On the other hand, in the Pac12

    Stanford played 6 of the top 7 Pac teams in conf play before CCG
    (6 of 6 not counting Furd)

    Oregon played 5 of the top 7 PAC teams in conf play
    (5 of 6 not counting Oregon)

    USC played 5 of the top 7 PAC teams in conf play
    (5 of 6 not counting SC)

    That's the way it typically goes in the SEC, which has 6 high quality teams this year.
    But if you only play half of them in the SEC, then another conf that has only 3 or 4 high quality teams
    but they all play each other, becomes just as tough to navigate as the SEC.

    But this scheduling truth, is always conveniently avoided by the "pundits" at Espin and the other Bcs parasites.

    This

    A) this assumed conference strength is the same. That isn't necessarily true

    B) is self-evident. You schedule nine games and only have twelve teams. Of course this will show. Even if the SEC had a nine game schedule, they still wouldn't face the top rate as another conference with less teams.

    So, why is this a big deal?

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  • Lol @ throwing decades of domination out the window for one season.

    Pump those breaks Texas has been to two national championships in the last seven years.

    Won one and had their star QB hurt in the first quarter of the other.

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  • MZizzle2 said...

    Texas will always own the state, don't let one season or even a few fool you.

    /Thread

    VaHorn

  • bucks3342 said...

    Nah. Hardballs was the flavor of the month. Anyone can win at Stanford....look at the hack they got there now

    And anyone can win at SF having the Yorks as owners.

    FSU Football. Making cool the new swag since 2013.

    gonoles2011

  • BetterOff said...

    I guess we found out why Texas was doing all they could to avoid the aTm matchup if OU would have made a BCS Bowl. Maybe that's why they lost to TCU.

    but on a positive side for Texas, they will only have to refuse to play A&m in the Cotton Bowl for 4 years. after that Johnny will be selling shoes,cows,cars, or running for Mayor.

    Crimson_Ghost

  • devidee said...

    If Texas makes the right hire after Mack then A&M goes back to being A&M.

    this is not true IMO

    granted it might be wishful thinking, but A&M is here to stay

    Kevin Sumlin + the move to the SEC + Johnny Football + instant success

    but the common misconception is that it can only be A&M or texas. the state produces more than enough talent for both. Who it hurts more are the OOS schools who were fighting A&M for texas recruits.

    OasisMan

  • OasisMan said...

    this is not true IMO

    granted it might be wishful thinking, but A&M is here to stay

    Kevin Sumlin + the move to the SEC + Johnny Football + instant success

    but the common misconception is that it can only be A&M or texas. the state produces more than enough talent for both. Who it hurts more are the OOS schools who were fighting A&M for texas recruits.

    That's a fair point.

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  • BuddyHolly said...

    And in the 15 years since texas has mopped the floors with tamu. Whats your point?

    I think the point is that every run is cyclical and Mack is trending down...much like Slocum was when Mack came in. The question will be, how long does Mack stay around? With the lack of competition in the Big 12, I dont see a scenario where Texas does much worse than 8-9 wins a season but how long does that keep him around? We know the fan base isnt happy with that but has Mack done enough to write his own ticket as long as he's winning 9 games a year?

    Recruiting momentum is swinging in the state in the 2013 class and early 2014.

    stir8ag

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Lol @ throwing decades of domination out the window for one season.

    Pump those breaks Texas has been to two national championships in the last seven years.

    Won one and had their star QB hurt in the first quarter of the other.

    What does that mean going forward???

    Ask Nebraska, Miami, USC etc etc etc etc..... how much that means to recruits, if you dont win NOW.

    Nebraska in 94-95 was one of the most dominant teams in history but that history hasnt kept them from mediocrity over the last decade.

    Same thing for Miami.... "the U" was one of the most talented teams in the country in the early 2000's but have been terrible over the last 6-7 years.

    USC- just the most recent example of a huge program and historic power that is now struggling with mediocrity.

    You're blind if you dont see that Texas (after their last 3 years) isnt on the short list of traditional powers that's now on the fast track to hit a down cycle. The longer Mack is around, and more wins and momentum A&M racks up, the harder it will be for Texas to dig out of the hole.

    stir8ag

  • stir8ag said...

    I think the point is that every run is cyclical and Mack is trending down...much like Slocum was when Mack came in. The question will be, how long does Mack stay around? With the lack of competition in the Big 12, I dont see a scenario where Texas does much worse than 8-9 wins a season but how long does that keep him around? We know the fan base isnt happy with that but has Mack done enough to write his own ticket as long as he's winning 9 games a year?

    Recruiting momentum is swinging in the state in the 2013 class and early 2014.

    I agree that it's swinging but I don't agree it's going to so drastically change so that one team dominates one way or the other as in the years past. I think now more than ever the state's recruits will be split more evenly than they have in years past. Both schools will be helped and both will be hurt in some ways.

    9 wins a year isn't going to keep Mack around. He knows that. Fans know that. Hopefully Dodds and Powers know that as well. Next year imo it's conference championship or bust for Mack. I think if it's anything short of that than he's done.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    This

    A) this assumed conference strength is the same. That isn't necessarily true

    B) is self-evident. You schedule nine games and only have twelve teams. Of course this will show. Even if the SEC had a nine game schedule, they still wouldn't face the top rate as another conference with less teams.

    So, why is this a big deal?

    I guess you missed

    This -
    That's the way it typically goes in the SEC, which has 6 high quality teams this year.
    But if you only play half of them in the SEC, and another conf that has only 3 or 4 high quality teams
    but they all play each other, that conf. is just as tough to navigate as the SEC.

    Getting credit because of playing in the SEC, but only playing half of the top 6 teams in the SEC,
    is getting false credit.

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  • OasisMan said...

    this is not true IMO

    granted it might be wishful thinking, but A&M is here to stay

    Kevin Sumlin + the move to the SEC + Johnny Football + instant success

    but the common misconception is that it can only be A&M or texas. the state produces more than enough talent for both. Who it hurts more are the OOS schools who were fighting A&M for texas recruits.

    Kevin Sumlin + move to the SEC + Johny Football + Instant success

    This is how that was translated at nzaa headquarters in Indianapolis =
    Black Head Coach + embarrassing the SEC + recruiting success + 3 more years of big winning vs the deep south
    = NZAA Investigation

    I'm not rooting for this, but unfortunately this has been the nzaa's script and M.O. throughout the years.
    A&M's only hope is Obi One Mike Slive.

    NcaaAssassinG13 ●

  • stir8ag said...

    What does that mean going forward???

    Ask Nebraska, Miami, USC etc etc etc etc..... how much that means to recruits, if you dont win NOW.

    Nebraska in 94-95 was one of the most dominant teams in history but that history hasnt kept them from mediocrity over the last decade.

    Same thing for Miami.... "the U" was one of the most talented teams in the country in the early 2000's but have been terrible over the last 6-7 years.

    USC- just the most recent example of a huge program and historic power that is now struggling with mediocrity.

    You're blind if you dont see that Texas (after their last 3 years) isnt on the short list of traditional powers that's now on the fast track to hit a down cycle. The longer Mack is around, and more wins and momentum A&M racks up, the harder it will be for Texas to dig out of the hole.

    How much that means to recruits? You serious? We just had the most disappointing season in our history and you had your best, all while our recruiting class is ranked higher than yours even though you have 20 more commitments.

    Fall back Agy you haven't won d**k. Texas can crawl back out of that hole in a season, you live in it.

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    How much that means to recruits? You serious? We just had the most disappointing season in our history and you had your best, all while our recruiting class is ranked higher than yours even though you have 20 more commitments.

    Fall back Agy you haven't won d**k. Texas can crawl back out of that hole in a season, you live in it.

    Proof where Texas class is ranked higher? Proof where this is their "most disappointing season in history"... DId you read your post before you hit submit?

    Please, someone, tell me I'm completely missing the sarcasm in this post? Please....

    CDubSmith2

  • Canadianhorn said...

    Gary Patterson.

    It's not a zero sum game. Both teams could be successful at the same time. As much as I love to see Texas have a tough time, I think it would be exciting as hell if both teams were doing well. It's more likely that happens now that they don't play each other.

    El Martillo2377

  • CDubSmith2 said...

    Proof where Texas class is ranked higher? Proof where this is their "most disappointing season in history"... DId you read your post before you hit submit?

    Please, someone, tell me I'm completely missing the sarcasm in this post? Please....

    He is one of them hippie USC fans smoke

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