The Blue Board

You're going to pop back some snide, condescending remark when I LAUGH and you aren't even the slightest bit aware of Prop 8?

Really?

I laughed, sir, because the notion that churches do not turn a profit is funny to me. Churches turn MASSIVE profits in this nation.

You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that Lakewood down in Houston isn't turning a profit?

And Lakewood is indicative of all the churches in our country? I haven't the slightest idea of what Lakewood's budget looks like, and neither do you. I do know from experience that the average church isn't wealthy. I have no problem with the profiteering churches being held accountable. But, they are in the very small minority.

And, I understand Prop 8 I'm not sure the original poster does and I wanted him/her to prove it.

Where you run into an issue with this stance, is very often political and religious issues run into each other. The Catholic Church has taken this issue with having to include birth control on an employees health insurance. Whatever you stance on that issue, it is without question a large religious organization taking a very public stance on a political issue. It happens all the time. The bigger the church, the more influence they can have.

This is flat out wrong. First of all. there is not a hospital in the country that does not have some sort of either state or national aid sent their way. Second of all, its a very slippery slope when you try to compare a University to a church. The University of Notre Dame, (To use one of the more obvious examples) is NOT a church. They may be AFFILIATED with a church, but they are still not an actual church. They have to deal with the same taxes, the same government issues that Purdue or Indiana University do. They are not a non profit organization, and they are not a church. If this was the case, then Exxon would claim a non profit status if they did business with a church.

You're confusing education guidelines with a situation that entails labor relations and health. Of course the government can't set those,but they can set a rule regarding health and employees.

P.S. A parochial school doesn't enjoy the same protections as a church,but the same
protections as a private school.

They still can teach creationism and very bad biology. Trust me. Most of my friends go to parochial schools like these.

True, an elementary or even high school parochial institute can get away with that, but you cant do it at a college level and get accredited. Its why there are no degrees in bad biology or creationism out there that are valid.

Oh yea. Sorry I was thinking of primary and secondary education.

Even at my college, which is a private,baptist university, they still incorporate faith into the class, no matter what the subject.

The basics, however, are still covered.

For a primary or secondary parochial school? The rule more than the exception. I know Catholic schools are a little more well-rounded in their teachings,but most Protestant parochial schools around here are not.

Schools vary - and I'm unsure what your friend was taught - but we homeschool our children. We teach them the facts - facts like how the discovery of DNA has destroyed Darwinism. Evolution is dead. Intelligent design is the truth.

The scientific community is slow to respond. They've resorted to typical "school yard bully" tactics - yelling, name calling, and posturing to ID proponents. All this time they search for another credible theory to evolution. Unfortunately for them, none exists.

I don't disagree that such entities, who are only affiliated by name, should receive such protections. However, those institutions who are primarily funded and idealized by the Church shouldn't be forced to bow to a point of view (a political point of view) that is in direct contradiction to their mission.

Evolutionism is a point of view that has been taught for a few generations now. Many of us feel like we are wasting tax dollars on a point of view that has become more of a religious stance than good science. Unfortunately the flat earth types are too scared to allow another opinion in the public classroom. The Creationists are gaining ground everyday in the scientific argument. But, evolutionists don't want to lose their religion.

But, the mission of the private institution is consistent across the board regardless of what dept. an employee works in. and, contraception isn't something that is elusive for folks anyway.