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Helen of Troy said...
What do you think about a fanbase that burned couches, rioted and threatened the lives of a coach's wife and kids... whose family had to be police escorted out of the city because of concerns for their safety?
What do you think of a coach who leaves a school right before their first ever BCS Bowl game?
What do you think of a coach who left his team only after being there one year and told his players he was gone via text?
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SpartanRocky said...
I know there was something that said that President did have authority to bind the University. I took that to mean he had authority from the BoT. There could, alternatively, be language in whatever your U's governing document is (Charter, constitution, whatever) that affords the President certain authority without the need to get the trustee's consent.
Whatever the case, the NCAA felt that getting your President's sig was enough. If your BoT turns around and rejects these sanctions, do you really think the NCAA is going to relent?
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kitemac said...
If you guys did you would embarrass the NCAA and that would be a very very dumb thing to do. I would expect if you now decline it you risk the tv bans plus the big ten would be embarrassed to since they sanctioned you too. Wow that would be a terrible decision by PSU. You guys might by some time making them investigate but the NCAA will do what they want. If they want to sanction a program unjustly they are going to. If you did that every person on campus should be fired because it would be obvious to everyone that there isn't one competent person there and I guess that would now include your BOT.
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ErnieMcCracken said...
Football still must really be bigger than everything else in Happy Valley if you think your punishment is unfair despite what happened. I was on a let's be fair to Penn State position which the NCAA accomplished but if this happens I'm all about the destruction of Penn State as a university.
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MrWoodson said...
WOTS is the BOT was not really consulted and a number of them are pissed. If they decide to fight, they will be able to get around the consent decree. It's unclear whether the President has that authority. Agreeing to anything involving over $60 million probably requries approval of the BOT. It's just like authorizing a large capital expenditure. The President's authority is not unlimited. He needs BOT aporoval for many things, especially when large sums of money are involved.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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kitemac said...
If you guys did you would embarrass the NCAA and that would be a very very dumb thing to do. I would expect if you now decline it you risk the tv bans plus the big ten would be embarrassed to since they sanctioned you too. Wow that would be a terrible decision by PSU. You guys might by some time making them investigate but the NCAA will do what they want. If they want to sanction a program unjustly they are going to. If you did that every person on campus should be fired because it would be obvious to everyone that there isn't one competent person there and I guess that would now include your BOT.
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kitemac said...
I don't know about the Big 10 but I'm pretty sure that the SEC is allowed to kick out any member without a buyout for basically any reason. You guys would be saying F you not only to the NCAA but to the Big 10 since they sanctioned you too. Also have you guys heard anything about the Board of Education yet?
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MrWoodson said...
The NCAA should be embarrassed. It's a joke of an institution. Mark Emmert never should have gone around the rules like some banana republic dictator. And there was no need to. All the NCAA had to do is follow their own rules and procedures. There was no need to turn this into a massive power grab.
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MrWoodson said...
The NCAA should be embarrassed. It's a joke of an institution. Mark Emmert never should have gone around the rules like some banana republic dictator. And there was no need to. All the NCAA had to do is follow their own rules and procedures. There was no need to turn this into a massive power grab.
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ErnieMcCracken said...
Football has a large effect on the economies of East Lansing and Ann Arbor but at the end if the day football does not sustain neither university as a whole. Penn State is putting its own existence into jeopardy. Why? To deny a terrible coverup and to keep some local businesses running? Penn State has really lost its way if this goes down.
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SpartanRocky said...
See Kitemac's post. Horrible idea, and would result in the NCAA beating them down even worse. I can't imagine the NCAA, after making such a stand and working to rehab their image as being weak would actually lessen the sanctions.
IMHO, this could only make things worse for PSU.
This post was edited by MrWoodson on 7/25/2012 at 2:21 PM
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kitemac said...
Absolutely agree that the Board on Enforcement/Infractions (can't remember what it's called) should have been the one to do the sanctions. I don't disagree with them using the Freeh investigation at all though. I only disagree with Emmert being the judge and jury.
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MrWoodson said...
That's a decision for the BOT to make. It's not Mark Emnert's decision or even the new PSU President's decision. I thought the NCAA was punishing PSU for Spanier & Co. not following proper procedures and the PSU BOT for not providing proper oversight. And the NCAA's solution is to bully the new PSU President and force him to sign a consent decree without any involvement of the BOT? Oh, the irony.
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kitemac said...
Not nice fans but crazy ones...
Probably was forced to by the other school but still not a great move.
Pretty crappy did he also text them telling them not to attend class because he couldn't get them to follow if they did?
BTW OP called the Illinois coaches pathetic for doing some shady things to another school. Lane absolutely did some shady things to Tennessee. Just pointing it out. Are you going to answer my question now or just ask me more questions?
What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.
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getmyjive11 said...
That is how I feel as well. PSU has accepted the Freeh report as "reasonable", so I don't have a problem with them using it. However, per sports legal analysts and past NCAA employees, the report does not show a LOIC per the NCAA rulebook and it may not even show any violations. That is the heart of the issue.
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