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kitemac said...
Absolutely agree that the Board on Enforcement/Infractions (can't remember what it's called) should have been the one to do the sanctions. I don't disagree with them using the Freeh investigation at all though. I only disagree with Emmert being the judge and jury.
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MrWoodson said...
There is nothing wrong with the NCAA using the Fresh Report. But it is just a report. PSU should have been served by the NCAA with a NOI and had a chance to respond. The Freeh Report is not some legally binding document based on rules of evidence and due process. It's one man's opinions and he didn't even have an opportunity to interview many of the parties because of pending litigation. The NCAA should use all the evidence at its disposal, but that doesn't mean it should disregard proper rules and procedures.
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kitemac said...
My guess is the NCAA thought the President had consenting power. Most presidents do or will get it before they consent to anything.
JMO but it makes PSU look even more out of control. The BOT hire a new president after their last failed miserably and he can't even do the first major thing right? For such a smart school your leaders sure are incompetent.
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Most HCs don't try and convince players that are currently living on campus to goto another school just days later. They don't try and convince EEs to not goto class for the first few days so they can follow them across the country. You still didn't answer my question though.
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kitemac said...
The Freeh Report is way more comprehensive than any report that the NCAA has ever come up with. NCAA piggy backs on most other investigations to find their information. This is no different. Only thing they should have done differently is let it go through the Board of Infractions instead of trying to just make it quick with Emmert.
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MrWoodson said...
It is and it isn't. Freeh never interviewed Curley, Schultz or McQueary among others. Or even some of the victims. The AG requested Free not to do so until litigation is complete. Apparently, Freeh also never interviewed anyone from the Paterno family. Jay was the QB coach. How could you not interview all the coaches? Did he interview the rest of the coaching staff (idk the answer)? Freeh had the benefit of $6.5 million, but there is plenty missing from the report. And I'm not saying the NCAA shouldn't use the report, but separate the facts from the opinions and give PSU a chance to respond to the allegations.
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PSU's BOT are the ones that signed off on the Freeh report. They are the ones that took it as complete. BOT can't fight that the only thing they can fight IMO is that to argue this isn't a NCAA matter.
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MrWoodson said...
The NCAA should be embarrassed. It's a joke of an institution. Mark Emmert never should have gone around the rules like some banana republic dictator. And there was no need to. All the NCAA had to do is follow their own rules and procedures. There was no need to turn this into a massive power grab.
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So what would you think about a coach leaving a school in early January after only being at the school for a year and telling the kids he recruited to EE not to goto class because then they couldn't follow him across the country?
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kitemac said...
So again let me get this right. The BOT had a big disconnect with your last incompetent president and he was fired for that among other things. They hire a new one and there's obviously a disconnect between the BOT and the new president. Or the president is incompetent and just going on his own accord which is the reason why you are in this in the first place. your BOT sound like more of a problem then any solution.
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So again let me get this right. The BOT had a big disconnect with your last incompetent president and he was fired for that among other things. They hire a new one and there's obviously a disconnect between the BOT and the new president. Or the president is incompetent and just going on his own accord which is the reason why you are in this in the first place. your BOT sound like more of a problem then any solution.
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So again let me get this right. The BOT had a big disconnect with your last incompetent president and he was fired for that among other things. They hire a new one and there's obviously a disconnect between the BOT and the new president. Or the president is incompetent and just going on his own accord which is the reason why you are in this in the first place. your BOT sound like more of a problem then any solution.
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MrWoodson said...
The NCAA is full of lawyers. They knew very well this kind of deal probably needed BOT approval. Maybe they were misled by Erickson or maybe they knew full well Erickson still needed formal board approval regardless of the signature (my guess would be the latter), but either way the NCAA is not naive enough to think Erickson had authority to approve $60 million in fines all on his own. Somewhere along the line the BOT needs to sign off on that.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Not sure how the president wouldn't have the power to do this. If he didn't, then that wouldn't make the agreement void. The BOT may take action against the Pres, but I don't think that would negate the agreement that was signed.
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I'd think he was offered his dream job and had to make a quick decision that in the end looks like the right one. What about Urban being too stressed to coach at UF but being okay to coach at tOSU? Or a coach floating rumors about taking a job up north to pull more cash out of a school? There's no end to pointing fingers at coaches because it's a rough profession that sometimes calls for some heartless decisions.
As far as telling any kids that were early entries not to attend class he was responding to their inquiries about eligibility for transfer not specifically eligibility at USC. If that was the truth why didn't more players follow him?
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