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fsufsu said...
Your attempts to muddy the debate with these semi-witty rhetorical responses isn't impressive. Add something or don't.
We're talking about a choice people are making that financially damages others and how it can be stopped.
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CtrlAltDel said...
You know what financially damages many companies? Ugly people. What we consider ugly people in our society are scorges that could fix themselves with the medical technology available to them but choose not to do so.
When I see an ugly person working somewhere, I take my business elsewhere. Why would I do business or buy something from a business that cares so little for the apperance of their employees that they openly allow ugly people to represent them?
Ugly people make other normal looking people feel bad and think bad thoughts about ugliness. It's upsetting. Most people can't stand ugly people.
These ugly people could have had plastic surgery done and make themselves more presentable to the general populace; that option is freely available to them. Do they take it? Most ugly people don't; they just persist in their ugliness like it's okay.
Well, it isn't okay. Ugly people affect the bottom line of companies much more than most realize.
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fsufsu said...
I dont give a crap about it being an "ok to say" thing. Just saying I have someone close to me who needs their butt kicked. Its not just an inhuman post and thought process.
DickMcJunkn is dumb enough to associate those issues. Impressive.
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CtrlAltDel said...
Oh, I see, so fat people have to do something about their very nasty fatness but ugly people don't have to do anything about their disturbing ugliness?
To hell with that. Ugly people don't have to be ugly any more than fat people have to be fat. Just as these fatties can be forced to lose weight or not get a job or lose a job; ugly people can be forced to get some reletively inexpensive plastic surgery to make them more pleasing to normal people or they too can lose their jobs.
Being ugly is not healthy and leads to shorter lives, more mental illness costing companies many millions of dollars annually, etc...
You are constantly thinking about how ugly you are and why people can't stand to look at you and you develop self-esteem issues which leads directly to reduced productivity, due to feelings of depression, in the workplace.
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I am not saying it is the norm. From my observations from working with them the past 4yrs, I am pretty sure that in the case of at least half of them they left working in the hospital because at their size it was too physically taxing. I love each and every one of them, all are great employees and none of them are lazy, but they most definitely are physically so. They will not lift or move anything and their size is used as a crutch. Among one of our duties is teaching CPR/FA to teachers and administrators in schools all over the place. I am their boss and they will call me(when I am working somewhere else) and ask me to run over to where they are to load or unload the CPR dummies. I am not joking, they literally refuse to physically lift or move anything and will interrupt the day of their boss to ask him to do it for them. I usually do it if it is not too much of a hindrance, just so it doesn't create a problem. If I had it my way, it would be in their work contract that they had to be physically able and willing to lift heavy things(50lbs+) on occasion.
I do not think it should be an exclusionary factor in hiring, but in my workplace it is used as a crutch.
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I know some fat people that are so physically strong it's scary. It's like they have fat molecules running directly to their neuro-transmitters and deleviring the fat energy straight to their bodies quicker and more efficently than a needle does for a "hairon" junkie.
I mean, some fatties are comic-book strong.
You just likely have found yourself some really lazy fatties or they are just taking advantage of you and tricking you into moving things for them because you are a bit dull-witted.
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R.A.T.T. said...
Ugly people aren't models, people with weight issues shouldn't be healthcare officials, people with fvcked up teeth shouldn't be the first thing you walk into when walking into the dentists office, a fat person shouldn't be a personal trainer, a smoker shouldn't be an Ironman contestant, a person with fvcked up feet shouldn't be a podiatrist and the list goes on and on. Sense is fvcking sense and your making none.
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CtrlAltDel said...
I'm making a good bit of sense. Let's delve into the issue at hand of why you believe that fatties and hospitals don't mix. You made some good comparisons and contrasts such as meth mouths working for dentists wouldn't be wise.
But, what does being fat have to do with working at a hospital and how is that harmful to their bottom line other than an arbitrary determination by judges of other people, like you, saying it is so.
I say ugly people, due to their diminished self-worth and lack of self-esteem are much more of a negative on the functioning of a hospital than a fatty. Ugly people are oftentimes in dark moods and most of the time don't communicate well with others and tend to be introverted and don't really help with the flow of a workday in a hospital.
In short, they are a drag and a bore and are always at the phychiatrist trying to figure out why the feel so bad about themselves. Ugly people cause issues all over the world.
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Ichabod said...
I say use fruit as a test. If they are shaped like a grapefruit then fine their ass. Extra taxes.
Or if you have more than 2 necks. I say 2 because when you're older then your gonna gain some weight but if you're in your 20s then boom. Extra taxes
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I am just making the logical jump from fat to ugly. Both types have medical and mental issues. Ugly people can become so infatutated with their ugliosty and from being mocked their whole lives by good looking people that they are a strain on hospitals due to nerve issues and stuff like that.
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Hawkifish said...
A question to the people in favor of this:
Say you're diagnosed with a life threatening disease that requires you to go to a hospital. Would you rather your doctor be of mediocre medical knowledge but in good shape or have a vast expanse of medical knowledge and be obese? Seems like a no brainer to me.
To automatically remove a person from the discussion in terms of hiring is ridiculously stupid. Obesity does not affect your job performance. Who cares about the "message" they send as long as they're saving more lives than their physically fit counterparts?
All things being equal, I could see preferring the physically fit employee over the obese one but we all know things are never equal like that.
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I am just making the logical jump from fat to ugly. Both types have medical and mental issues. Ugly people can become so infatutated with their ugliosty and from being mocked their whole lives by good looking people that they are a strain on hospitals and insurance companies due to nerve issues and mental health issues and stuff like that.
And, just like fatties, all it would take would be just a little bit of incentive on their part to change their looks but, do they do it? NO.
They just don't care, just like fatties don't seem to care.
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stoptothink said...
Makes total sense. Ugly obviously is obviously one of the primary factors in CVD, insulin resistance, various types of cancer, fatty liver disease, etc. The attractiveness of your face also physically affects your ability to do your job and ugly people statistically miss significantly more work.
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I'm very pleased about this hospital not hiring obese people....