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  • norsk said...

    How the hell does that equate to Obamalama winning the debate?

    Not questioning you, btw.

    Romney even won "stronger leader" 49%-46%. Obama won "more likeable" 47%-41%...maybe that is why voters said he won.

    dpfenny ●

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Obama's plan doesn't add up either.

    Obama might have won tonight, but on the one topic that matters most and that is the economy, Romney is beating Obama every time. Obama can't beat him on that with his record and Obama really has no new plan for his next term.

    Mhhhmm and what exactly is romney's plan? Specifics please... Ill wait, oh that's right he is still yet to give any...

    He's telling the middle class exactly what it wants to hear in order to get elected, then it's back to support for big business including major tax breaks for the wealthy and deregulation, which started with Clinton and was greatly increased under bush, which got us where we are now.

    Truth of the matter is, we, as a nation, are truly fvcked and it is the product of thirty years worth of presidencies and dirty politics, republicans and democrats alike.

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    ThaJoker

  • dpfenny said...

    CNN has Obama winning the debate but still losing on most of the issues.

    Better job with the economy Romney 58%, Obama 40%

    Health Care Romney 49%, Obama 46%

    Taxes Romney 51% Obama 44%

    Budget Deficit Romney 59%, Obama 36%

    Foreign Policy Obama 49%, Romney 47%

    And this election is about the economy and everything else matters little. Romney is going to win.

    bama1055 ●

  • Poll out of Colorado gives it to Obama 48-44 overall and 58-36 among Independents.

    Uhaul

  • 912_HeismanAU said...

    Mhhhmm and what exactly is romney's plan? Specifics please... Ill wait, oh that's right he is still yet to give any...

    He's telling the middle class exactly what it wants to hear in order to get elected, then it's back to support for big business including major tax breaks for the wealthy and deregulation, which started with Clinton and was greatly increased under bush, which got us where we are now.

    Truth of the matter is, we, as a nation, are truly fvcked and it is the product of thirty years worth of presidencies and dirty politics, republicans and democrats alike.

    All depends what Romney we really get, the one that caters to the Republican base or the more moderate one.

    Everyone is hating on that fact that Romney hasn't given every little specific part of his plan, but Obama hasn't given us anything either really and his record sucks.

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    MZizzle2 ●

  • MZizzle2 said...

    All depends what Romney we really get, the one that caters to the Republican base or the more moderate one.

    Everyone is hating on that fact that Romney hasn't given every little specific part of his plan, but Obama hasn't given us anything either really and his record sucks.

    Obama never wants to talk about his policies or proposals

    Jeff4SC ●

  • MZizzle2 said...

    All depends what Romney we really get, the one that caters to the Republican base or the more moderate one.

    Everyone is hating on that fact that Romney hasn't given every little specific part of his plan, but Obama hasn't given us anything either really and his record sucks.

    Romney's stance on issues changes so often I am not even sure he knows the specifics.

    Uhaul

  • Uhaul said...

    Romney's stance on issues changes so often I am not even sure he knows the specifics.

    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1630706277001/obamas-growing-list-of-flip-flops/

    dpfenny ●

  • dpfenny said...

    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1630706277001/obamas-growing-list-of-flip-flops/

    Fox...imagine my surprise.

    Uhaul

  • Uhaul said...

    Fox...imagine my surprise.

    Ah, typical lib tactic...when you cannot debate the facts attack the source. Have any examples of where Lou Dobb's list is wrong?

    How about this one...have a problem with politifact?

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

    dpfenny ●

  • dpfenny said...

    Ah, typical lib tactic...when you cannot debate the facts attack the source. Have any examples of where Lou Dobb's list is wrong?

    How about this one...have a problem with politifact?

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

    Sure does.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

    17% broken.

    Lets check the truth meter on the two candidates' statements...

    President Obama...

    True - 22%
    Mostly True - 23%
    Half True - 26%
    Mostly False - 12%
    False - 14%
    Pants On Fire - 2%

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

    Mitt Romney

    True - 16%
    Mostly True - 13%
    Half True - 28%
    Mostly False - 17%
    False - 16%
    Pants on Fire - 9%

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

    This post was edited by Uhaul on 10/17/2012 at 12:34 AM

    Uhaul

  • Uhaul said...

    Sure does.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

    17% broken.

    Lets check the truth meter on the two candidates' statements...

    President Obama...

    True - 22% Mostly True - 23% Half True - 26% Mostly False - 12% False - 14% Pants On Fire - 2%

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

    Mitt Romney

    True - 16% Mostly True - 13% Half True - 28% Mostly False - 17% False - 16% Pants on Fire - 9%

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

    So they both flip flop and lie...yet you act as if it is only Romney.

    Any examples of Dobb's claims to be false?

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 10/17/2012 at 12:37 AM

    dpfenny ●

  • I want Obama to win and still think that he will. But even if Romney wins I'm willing to bet conservatives will be disappointed with the job he has done after his four years in office. The same applies for Obama obviously.

    hownowbrowncow

  • dpfenny said...

    So they both flip flop and lie...yet you act as if it is only Romney.

    Any examples of Dobb's claims to be false?

    I don't act as if it's only Romney, I act as if Romney does it far more frequently and to a greater extent...which he clearly does.

    Re Dobb's claims...Anything supporting their veracity?

    Uhaul

  • Uhaul said...

    I don't act as if it's only Romney, I act as if Romney does it far more frequently and to a greater extent...which he clearly does.

    Re Dobb's claims...Anything supporting their veracity?

    LOL, you only brought up Romney, no mention of Obama and his flip flops.

    dpfenny ●

  • dpfenny said...

    LOL, you only brought up Romney, no mention of Obama and his flip flops.

    Dude, they're both politicians...so to a certain extent they're both going to tell tall tales. However, Romney clearly tells taller tales and he tells them far more often. There's really no denying that. The President's statements are true/mostly true 55% of the time. Romney lags far behind at 29% of the time.

    This post was edited by Uhaul on 10/17/2012 at 12:55 AM

    Uhaul

  • Uhaul said...

    Dude, they're both politicians...so to a certain extent they're both going to tell tall tales. However, Romney clearly tells taller tales and he tells them far more often. There's really no denying that. The President's statements are true/mostly true 55% of the time. Romney lags far behind at 29% of the time.

    I have no doubt they are both politicians. One is a politician who has a long list of broken promises over the last 4 years yet you made no mention of his policy reversals...only of a potential candidates. So you are ok with the lies and broken promises of Obama, but feel the need to bring up Romney's. When Dobb's presents a list of Obama's flip flops you immediately attack the source.
    BTW according to your own links Romney has 80 false...and Obama has 124.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 10/17/2012 at 1:01 AM

    dpfenny ●

  • dpfenny said...

    I have no doubt they are both politicians. One is a politician who has a long list of broken promises over the last 4 years yet you made no mention of his policy reversals...only of a potential candidates. So you are ok with the lies and broken promises of Obama, but feel the need to bring up Romney's. When Dobb's presents a list of Obama's flip flops you immediately attack the source.

    I dislike dishonesty in general. Sadly, this is the political system with which we must deal.

    However, when it comes to honesty, one candidate is telling the truth far more than the other. You find Romney's policies more compelling than the President's? Ok, we're all entitled to our beliefs. I am all for civil discourse. However, the idea that the President is a liar and Romney is honest is laughable. The "Truth Meter" favors the President by a wide margin.

    And, yes, citing source as partisan as Fox is going to draw a significant amount of skepticism.

    This post was edited by Uhaul on 10/17/2012 at 1:07 AM

    Uhaul

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Nm

    What happens to you when Romney wins and crowns himself Emperor of America.

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    CptAUmerica21 ●

  • Uhaul said...

    I dislike dishonesty in general. Sadly, this is the political system with which we must deal.

    However, when it comes to honesty, one candidate is telling the truth far more than the other. You find Romney's policies more compelling than the President's? Ok, we're all entitled to our beliefs. I am all for civil discourse. However, the idea that the President is a liar and Romney is honest is laughable. The "Truth Meter" favors the President by a wide margin.

    And, yes, citing source as partisan as Fox is going to draw a significant amount of skepticism.

    Apparently you have no problem with Obama's dishonesty the last 4 years since you felt the need to bring up Romney's and not mention Obama's.

    Once again, according to your links, Obama has told 50% more lies than Romney has 124 to 80.

    The thread was about the debate tonight and the polling numbers. You are the one that felt the need to make a claim about Romney as if that same claim did not apply to Obama.

    dpfenny ●

  • A plurality of BO's promises were either fulfilled or compromised while a majority are either in the works or the former two with a minority of broken promises. I wish we could see if his rate of broken promises is greater than any other president. I don't think it is. Then again, some promises are bigger than others so there is a quantity and quality component as well

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    BamaLivesFootba ●

  • dpfenny said...

    Apparently you have no problem with Obama's dishonesty the last 4 years since you felt the need to bring up Romney's and not mention Obama's.

    Once again, according to your links, Obama has told 50% more lies than Romney has 124 to 80.

    The thread was about the debate tonight and the polling numbers. You are the one that felt the need to make a claim about Romney as if that same claim did not apply to Obama.

    LOL @ 124 to 80. You're grasping at straws now. Does someone who hits 124 homeruns over five years have more power than someone who hits 80 over 1.5 years? The numbers clearly show Romney is far more likely to lie when he opens his mouth than is the President.

    And I made a statement regarding Romney's failure to provide any specifics re his plans...you turned into a "Who is more full of it?" debate. And that contest clearly goes to Mr. Romney.

    This post was edited by Uhaul on 10/17/2012 at 1:21 AM

    Uhaul

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Turn off Fox News

    Your repertoire...is tight....rapist wit son!!!!

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    BBucksorBeGone8 ●

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Sigh.

    The economy isn't bad, it's stagnant, growing modestly. The reason there are so many people out of work is because we've had the biggest systemic economic crisis since the Depression only three years ago. Every economic indicator is positive. It's not enough, but to say its bad is just not true.

    Healthcare has grown at the smallest rate in decades in the last year or so.

    Energy policies are mainly dictated by markets. Gas prices are high because there is a greater demand for it. The government can't do much about that. Natural gas is plummeting, but most prices for electricity and gas are set by regulated power companies that can't fluctuate prices much due to state and local rules.

    Foreign policy is poor? We had one fvck up with the embassy. We've drawn down in our theaters of war, killed the man responsible for 9/11, aided (without entering physically and using massive amounts of money) countries in freedom in the Middle East, general like ability of the US is up relative to the last administration, Iran's economy is beind decimate by sanctions etc.

    Do you have any scale or scope? Diction? You just described something that doesn't exist.

    This is awesome. I had been dreading meeting with my CFO to discuss our $500,000 in bad debt write-offs for the year, from companies that filed bankruptcy or went out of business. I can simply print out a copy of this and now enlighten him, and move right into the discussion of bonus and salary increase.

    When he pulls that writing off $500,000 is bad crap, I will assure him that just isn't true.

    VTSmitty ●

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    A plurality of BO's promises were either fulfilled or compromised while a majority are either in the works or the former two with a minority of broken promises. I wish we could see if his rate of broken promises is greater than any other president. I don't think it is. Then again, some promises are bigger than others so there is a quantity and quality component as well

    As I explained to you a few days ago, a lot of the BO promises that are listed as in the works arent close to coming to fruition.

    aubie25

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