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In todays economic conditions Subway subs wouldnt exist!

  • joetheogre said...

    Almost every scientist in that field disagrees with you.

    If 97-98% of economists held a certain position, would you constantly ignore what they were saying?

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  • CockAtLaw said...

    Why do you think that someone who understands the economy should not be a liberal?

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  • joetheogre said...

    There are plenty of liberal economists

    Like Paul Krugman? lol

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  • Clemson said...

    Are you serious? An online survey of 4,800 people and those results leads you to believe that all conservatives understand the economy better than all liberals. Did you even read the questions they asked and the method by which they determine "enlightenment?"

    Generally speaking I've always thought you provided decent material to read and think about, but not in this instance.

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  • Even Bruce Bartlett, who worked for Reagan and Bush I says this stuff is sloppy and worthless

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  • Clemson said...

    Like Paul Krugman? lol

    So you don't think there are any qualified economists who are liberal?

    Do you not consider Krugman an economist? If not, what disqualifies him. What about Joseph Stiglitz?

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  • CockAtLaw said...

    So you don't think there are any qualified economists who are liberal?

    Do you not consider Krugman an economist? If not, what disqualifies him. What about Joseph Stiglitz?

    I consider Paul Krugman to be reputable economist like I consider Bill Maher to be a reputable political commentator.

    And to be honest, I just found the article in five minutes. I'm sure if I spent some time I could find some scholarly articles that were in line with my thoughts. As I'm sure you could find some to disprove mine.

    It's just a matter of opinion. I just don't see how anyone could be a doctor, lawyer (blank), financial adviser, and support liberal economic policies.

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  • Clemson said...

    I consider Paul Krugman to be reputable economist like I consider Bill Maher to be a reputable political commentator.

    And to be honest, I just found the article in five minutes. I'm sure if I spent some time I could find some scholarly articles that were in line with my thoughts. As I'm sure you could find some to disprove mine.

    It's just a matter of opinion. I just don't see how anyone could be a doctor, lawyer (blank), financial adviser, and support liberal economic policies.

    Why about Krugman? What are the reasons that a guy who earns a PhD in economics from MIT and a Nobel Prize is not qualified as an economist?

    So, you recognize that there are "scholarly" articles (I'm assuming you mean logical, reasonable, defensible, etc.) that support economic policies consistent with conservative and liberal points of view, but then say you still don't understand how an economist could be a liberal? That seems contradictory. You can understand something without agreeing with it.

    Well I am a finance undergraduate major who now is an attorney practicing in tax and estate planning. If you are curious as to why some of my views (even views on economics) lean toward liberal, this is your opportunity to now understand why. I'm not saying I'm correct or you have to agree with me, but at least you will be able to understand it.

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  • MrSlaughter said...

    Just started my job at Home Depot corporate. New hires had the opportunity to have a round table discussion with Bernie Marcus (one of the founders). I asked him if he tried to start Home Depot today, with the current regulations coming from the government, if it could be successful. He said no way in hell.

    Are you sure you didn't read that from the article that quotes him saying that?

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  • Clemson said...

    I consider Paul Krugman to be reputable economist like I consider Bill Maher to be a reputable political commentator.

    And to be honest, I just found the article in five minutes. I'm sure if I spent some time I could find some scholarly articles that were in line with my thoughts. As I'm sure you could find some to disprove mine.

    It's just a matter of opinion. I just don't see how anyone could be a doctor, lawyer (blank), financial adviser, and support liberal economic policies.

    Also, I asked why you feel that an economist can't be liberal, not what some hack research says. You said that is what you believe, so why do you believe it?

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  • Article was the reason I asked the question, was like throwing him a slow pitch in softball.

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  • CockAtLaw said...

    Why about Krugman? What are the reasons that a guy who earns a PhD in economics from MIT and a Nobel Prize is not qualified as an economist?

    So, you recognize that there are "scholarly" articles (I'm assuming you mean logical, reasonable, defensible, etc.) that support economic policies consistent with conservative and liberal points of view, but then say you still don't understand how an economist could be a liberal? That seems contradictory. You can understand something without agreeing with it.

    Well I am a finance undergraduate major who now is an attorney practicing in tax and estate planning. If you are curious as to why some of my views (even views on economics) lean toward liberal, this is your opportunity to now understand why. I'm not saying I'm correct or you have to agree with me, but at least you will be able to understand it.

    If I'm not mistaken, Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Prize. And of course the 2009 winner, was about as undeserving as one could be. But I digress.

    And I'll get to your question, but might take a while to respond.

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  • joetheogre said...

    There are plenty of liberal economists

    and they work for the government. Hmmm.

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  • joetheogre said...

    Almost every scientist in that field disagrees with you.

    If 97-98% of economists held a certain position, would you constantly ignore what they were saying?

    The same scientists that are having their research funded by the government?

    NLeininger

  • CockAtLaw said...

    So you don't think there are any qualified economists who are liberal?

    Do you not consider Krugman an economist? If not, what disqualifies him. What about Joseph Stiglitz?

    Krugman isn't a economist anymore, he left that title many years go when he became a shill for the liberal agenda.

    This post was edited by NLeininger on 3/1/2013 at 3:31 PM

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  • NLeininger said...

    Krugman isn't a economist anymore, he left that title many years go when he became a shill for the liberal agenda.

    So, by your logic, anyone ever associated with the Heritage Foundation loses all credibility as an economist/scientist/whatever?

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  • CMXI said...

    So, by your logic, anyone ever associated with the Heritage Foundation loses all credibility as an economist/scientist/whatever?

    Well the Heritage Foundation was a central figure in the "Contract with America" or the principles that ushered in what you guys call the Glorious Clinton years. So they obviously aren't idiots, like a man that proclaimed Obama's stimulus #1 wasn't enough.

    This post was edited by NLeininger on 3/1/2013 at 4:04 PM

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  • MrSlaughter said...

    Article was the reason I asked the question, was like throwing him a slow pitch in softball.

    Haha nice move. I bet you heard a nice little rant.

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  • Where Clemson fails is in his definition. First off, he broadly strokes anyone as either liberal or conservative. Secondly, he ignores whether one can be liberal or conservative irrespective of economics. Third, he chooses to hold on economic theory higher than another despite the fact economics is a SOCIAL science at best and is essentially a crapshoot.

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  • NLeininger said...

    Well the Heritage Foundation was a central figure in the "Contract with America" or the principles that ushered in what you guys call the Glorious Clinton years. So they obviously aren't idiots, like a man that proclaimed Obama's stimulus #1 wasn't enough.

    Yea. It wasn't. The stimulus was based off projections that underestimated that recession. Then again, there is economic reality and there is political reality. One demands a larger package and the other cant swallow it. They didn't reach $787B because that's what the general consensus was from economists, they reached that number because that's what the politicians as a sum could swallow to get it passed.

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  • NLeininger said...

    The same scientists that are having their research funded by the government?

    Lol

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Where Clemson fails is in his definition. First off, he broadly strokes anyone as either liberal or conservative. Secondly, he ignores whether one can be liberal or conservative irrespective of economics. Third, he chooses to hold on economic theory higher than another despite the fact economics is a SOCIAL science at best and is essentially a crapshoot.

    Wasn't just last week that you were holding certain economic theories to be the truth?

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  • Clemson said...

    I consider Paul Krugman to be reputable economist like I consider Bill Maher to be a reputable political commentator.

    And to be honest, I just found the article in five minutes. I'm sure if I spent some time I could find some scholarly articles that were in line with my thoughts. As I'm sure you could find some to disprove mine.

    It's just a matter of opinion. I just don't see how anyone could be a doctor, lawyer (blank), financial adviser, and support liberal economic policies.

    This is the problem with economics. People can disagree and not be wrong. Sigh...

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  • rms02d said...

    Good, Subway sucks donkey balls anyway.

    There is a good write up in the book Fast-Food nation about how Subways franchise model is basically a rip off for the average owner too.

    I shit you not the Subway corporate 'sales pitch' was "if you work at your store 6 days a week 7-9 hours a day you could possibly make FOURTY THOUSAND A YEAR!! (insert confetti drop)" Not to mention the asking price was 240k which would be 6 to possibly 7 years of earnings opposed to the usual 3-5 years worth of earnings most small businesses get sold for.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    I shit you not the Subway corporate 'sales pitch' was "if you work at your store 6 days a week 7-9 hours a day you could possibly make FOURTY THOUSAND A YEAR!! (insert confetti drop)" Not to mention the asking price was 240k which would be 6 to possibly 7 years of earnings opposed to the usual 3-5 years worth of earnings most small businesses get sold for.

    Seriously?

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