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Interesting view on social trends, guns, and mass killings

  • What do y'all think? I think some valid points are made.

    In Europe, fewer mass killings due to culture not guns

    The USA leads the world in gun ownership, but it's our individualistic culture that puts us at greater risk of mass shootings compared with other nations where guns are prevalent, a British criminologist says.

    www.usatoday.com
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  • Wow. Never thought I would read that in USA Today. I think the majority of the country has shifted to a pro second amendment stance. At least I hope so.

    Surferdude

  • This thread is a lot more subtle than your "Concealed Carry Saves Lives" thread.

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  • Get rid of the guns altogether. We don't need them. If that's true and you can own something that fires multiple rounds, then I want to own a bazooka or a tank. Hey, you have something that fires and I do as well. It's caveman mentality. People thinking we have to be able to defend ourselves vs. enemies foreign and domestic are nuts. That's what the military is for. People thinking owning guns to stop government take over are living in 1780.

    You come at me with a gun, I'm dead. A knife, I got better odds. No knife, I'm pretty good....

    CoachGomez214

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    Get rid of the guns altogether. We don't need them. If that's true and you can own something that fires multiple rounds, then I want to own a bazooka or a tank. Hey, you have something that fires and I do as well. It's caveman mentality. People thinking we have to be able to defend ourselves vs. enemies foreign and domestic are nuts. That's what the military is for. People thinking owning guns to stop government take over are living in 1780.

    You come at me with a gun, I'm dead. A knife, I got better odds. No knife, I'm pretty good....

    You can take that approach, I'll keep my guns.

    Johns381

  • Johns381 said...

    You can take that approach, I'll keep my guns.

    That's fine, so you're saying I can own a tank?

    CoachGomez214

  • that article is about mass killings

    what about every day killings? where we have 100x the percentage of gun deaths that Europe does

    gun nuts are blind to the death and destruction their industry and lobbyists sow

    and they keep doubling down no matter what tragedy befalls innocent civilians

    its sickening.

    Bom274

  • So what you're saying is we need to be more collectivist and like Europe? coffee

    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 12/18/2012 at 8:21 AM

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  • Coach-Gomez said...

    Get rid of the guns altogether. We don't need them. If that's true and you can own something that fires multiple rounds, then I want to own a bazooka or a tank. Hey, you have something that fires and I do as well. It's caveman mentality. People thinking we have to be able to defend ourselves vs. enemies foreign and domestic are nuts. That's what the military is for. People thinking owning guns to stop government take over are living in 1780.

    You come at me with a gun, I'm dead. A knife, I got better odds. No knife, I'm pretty good....

    I own a couple of handguns to protect myself from the lowlifes of the world. It's not about protecting myself from the government, it's about protecting myself from the nuts that are capable of committing violent crimes. And there is no way in hell I'm giving up my right to own a gun to protect myself from domestic nuts. We don't live in some fantasy world where everyone lives in perfect harmony, we live in a cruel world where people do terrible things. I don't want someone in my family or myself to lose their life at the hands of some psychopath because I wasn't able to defend them/me.

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  • the_bagman said...

    I own a couple of handguns to protect myself from the lowlifes of the world. It's not about protecting myself from the government, it's about protecting myself from the nuts that are capable of committing violent crimes. And there is no way in hell I'm giving up my right to own a gun to protect myself from domestic nuts. We don't live in some fantasy world where everyone lives in perfect harmony, we live in a cruel world where people do terrible things. I don't want someone in my family or myself to lose their life at the hands of some psychopath because I wasn't able to defend them/me.

    Unless you have it on your hip, if someone wants you dead, you're dead. Now, that being said, if they were gone altogether, you wouldn't need one, would you?

    CoachGomez214

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    Unless you have it on your hip, if someone wants you dead, you're dead. Now, that being said, if they were gone altogether, you wouldn't need one, would you?

    They are never going to be "gone altogether". You're talking about a fantasy world.

    I keep one so close that if someone kicked in my door in the middle of the night I would be able to grab it and at least have a chance to defend myself. I suppose if someone wanted me dead for some reason they might eventually be able to get me but I'm specifically talking about protecting my home.

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  • Coach-Gomez said...

    Get rid of the guns altogether. We don't need them. If that's true and you can own something that fires multiple rounds, then I want to own a bazooka or a tank. Hey, you have something that fires and I do as well. It's caveman mentality. People thinking we have to be able to defend ourselves vs. enemies foreign and domestic are nuts. That's what the military is for. People thinking owning guns to stop government take over are living in 1780.

    You come at me with a gun, I'm dead. A knife, I got better odds. No knife, I'm pretty good....

    You're an idiot. I'm not opposed to gun control, but your post is retarded.

    gamecockguy12

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    Unless you have it on your hip, if someone wants you dead, you're dead. Now, that being said, if they were gone altogether, you wouldn't need one, would you?

    That's a great idea! Lets make them illegal so they're gone all together like we did with heroin and meth!

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  • gamecockguy12 said...

    You're an idiot. I'm not opposed to gun control, but your post is retarded.

    This coming from a guy living in South Carolina? You can go back to shooting clay pigeons in the backyard, your pit bull fights or fishing for catfish with your hands. Sherman went too easy.... Too bad they didn't let us go at it again.

    CoachGomez214

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    This coming from a guy living in South Carolina? You can go back to shooting clay pigeons in the backyard, your pit bull fights or fishing for catfish with your hands. Sherman went too easy.... Too bad they didn't let us go at it again.

    Wait, I thought we people down here were the ones who made ridiculous generalizations about groups of people based on location and/or skin color. I don't know how to respond, because you've confused my tiny mind.

    gamecockguy12

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    People thinking we have to be able to defend ourselves vs. enemies foreign and domestic are nuts. That's what the military is for. People thinking owning guns to stop government take over are living in 1780.

    You come at me with a gun, I'm dead. A knife, I got better odds. No knife, I'm pretty good....

    Are you purposefully this ignorant, or you just can't help it? First off no, individuals that own guns for that reason are taking advantage of our second amendment right. Thankfully those in charge weren't as stupid as you are when it comes to this. Secondly, that's the point. If someone breaks into my house, I don't want them to have a chance to live, I want the dead the easiest way possible.

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  • Coach-Gomez said...

    This coming from a guy living in South Carolina? You can go back to shooting clay pigeons in the backyard, your pit bull fights or fishing for catfish with your hands. Sherman went too easy.... Too bad they didn't let us go at it again.

    Wow, prejudice much? You must have spiked hair with a fake tan and obnoxious accent, right?

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  • gamecockguy12 said...

    Wait, I thought we people down here were the ones who made ridiculous generalizations about groups of people based on location and/or skin color. I don't know how to respond, because you've confused my tiny mind.

    HAHA!! I gave you an upvote. Good one, but my post is solid. Why can't I be allowed to own a tank if somebody else has an assault rifle?

    It actually says you can't in the second amendment, but I find this ridiculous. so I guess I'll go get my automatic today in case somebody goes bonkers... I'll have plenty of time to get back to my apt, load my clip, etc etc etc and the shooter will just wait for me to arm myself to have a fighting chance.

    CoachGomez214

  • USMCAG said...

    Wow, prejudice much? You must have spiked hair with a fake tan and obnoxious accent, right?

    No tan, work inside. No spiked hair, going bald. Accent comes out in different areas.

    Prejudice, yes.

    Racist, no.

    Big difference.

    CoachGomez214

  • Outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns.

    bibrks7

  • bibrks7 said...

    Outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns.

    I like it! Then you throw the outlaws in a prison like in Mexico and let them kill each other.

    CoachGomez214

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    No tan, work inside. No spiked hair, going bald. Accent comes out in different areas.

    Prejudice, yes.

    Racist, no.

    Big difference.

    It isn't better to be prejudice than racist, they both come from ignorance.

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  • Coach-Gomez said...

    I like it! Then you throw the outlaws in a prison like in Mexico and let them kill each other.

    Are you really that oblivious to life? Good grief.

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  • USMCAG said...

    It isn't better to be prejudice than racist, they both come from ignorance.

    That's not true. Prejudice can come from experience as well. And by the way, every single person in the world is prejudice sans Mother Teresa and God Bless her soul, but she's no longer with us.

    You're not prejudice to your team? Your girl? The food you like? Where you live?

    You're not prejudice against people who abuse the American system like Bernie Madoff? How about the kid that murdered the innocent kids in Newtown?

    Stop it.

    CoachGomez214

  • Coach-Gomez said...

    That's fine, so you're saying I can own a tank?

    I mean, can you afford one? Those things cost several million dollars.

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