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Is Bama that good, or is Michigan that bad?

  • cuznchips28 said...

    yeah I have always thought that about Werner, but could be hard to pass on first round money. Also wife is going to school in tally so that could keep him around

    I would bet money he finishes school if he has to finish

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    NoVaNoles201711

  • shoeless7777 said...

    hope the LT is going to be alright ..hate to see anyone get hurt

    It looked like a cramp, he wasn't grimacing leaving the field.

    A2Wolverines ●

  • Zonabuck said...

    I am still of the opinon that Hoke is the guy who would bring back respectability to the program, but he wouldn't get them back to Championship form. Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB, but look at the position their coaches put them in tonight. The only weapon they have is Barry Sanders at QB, and they asked him to be Troy Aikman. Who does that? They'll build depth, but they'll be the 3rd best B1G team at best until Hoke moves on in 4-5 years.

    "Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB"

    So if literally our entire team sucks in your opinion, what position did our coaches put them in? This game was scheduled 3 years ago by our athletic director. Once Hoke gets to use the system he and his defensive coordinators want and the top-5 recruiting classes who will fill those voids hit campus, we will be back to Championship form.

    While we got spanked around, most of that was provoked by them dominating the trenches. That will not happen against us all season, not even close, and the rest of our team will look much better IMO. I liked what I saw from Gardner and Gallon at WR, Fitz will be back, and we will surprise people during B1G play.

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  • UM isn't a top ten team but they aren't as bad as they showed. They just h happen to be the worst possible matchup for bama

    ReasonableDoubt

  • Zonabuck said...

    I am still of the opinon that Hoke is the guy who would bring back respectability to the program, but he wouldn't get them back to Championship form. Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB, but look at the position their coaches put them in tonight. The only weapon they have is Barry Sanders at QB, and they asked him to be Troy Aikman. Who does that? They'll build depth, but they'll be the 3rd best B1G team at best until Hoke moves on in 4-5 years.

    Where will Hoke go?

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • Both. Alabama is insane, but UM is in reality more in the 17-25 range of the Top 25 than the top ten area.

    L_Himmler

  • ReasonableDoubt said...

    UM isn't a top ten team but they aren't as bad as they showed. They just h happen to be the worst possible matchup for bama

    Agreed. Alabama has the best College OL I have ever seen and Michigan's DL was the big question mark. I doubt that the DL gets spanked that badly again all year.

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    This is Michigan, fergodsakes.

    Never Lose Hoke

  • Mitch Again said...

    "Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB"

    So if literally our entire team sucks in your opinion, what position did our coaches put them in? This game was scheduled 3 years ago by our athletic director. Once Hoke gets to use the system he and his defensive coordinators want and the top-5 recruiting classes who will fill those voids hit campus, we will be back to Championship form.

    While we got spanked around, most of that was provoked by them dominating the trenches. That will not happen against us all season, not even close, and the rest of our team will look much better IMO. I liked what I saw from Gardner and Gallon at WR, Fitz will be back, and we will surprise people during B1G play.

    Having issues doesn't mean a team sucks. I'm just trying to find areas of strength. The one is Denard. Hoke had his system in place for tonight's game, which is what neutralizes Denard's strengths. Take Denard and put him in a game like tonight and tell me where your strengths are. Gallon makes a handful of plays each game, it seems. Gardner caught one pass, and was targeted a minimum of a half dozen times. He had at least three on his hands, and the DB broke one up that he should have had.

    The B1G is clearly weak this year, so you shouldn't have many problems. Wisky, Iowa, Northwestern, PSU, Indiana all showed themselves to be not quite ready for prime time. But that wasn't what I was saying. Michigan has a was to go before they have consistency and depth. After having all summer to put together a game plan for Alabama, I also question their coaching staff.

    Zonabuck

  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    Where will Hoke go?

    He'll be late 50s, so he could still coach, but fans will be tired of 9-3.

    Zonabuck

  • El Guapo said...

    UM sucks. Their QB is a creation from Espn and completes 50% of his passes. He's a DB in the SEC.

    I take this back. He is second team gunner on the punt team. He sucks.

    "People always ask me if I wish I were bigger. I tell them no. I always wanted to be a miniature badass." Dustin Pedroia

    El Guapo ●

  • we're legit, our secondary just needs to tighten up but like I thought D Milli is a baller. made some $$$$$$ tonight

    #winning

    MrCrimson33306

  • Zonabuck said...

    Having issues doesn't mean a team sucks. I'm just trying to find areas of strength. The one is Denard. Hoke had his system in place for tonight's game, which is what neutralizes Denard's strengths. Take Denard and put him in a game like tonight and tell me where your strengths are. Gallon makes a handful of plays each game, it seems. Gardner caught one pass, and was targeted a minimum of a half dozen times. He had at least three on his hands, and the DB broke one up that he should have had.

    The B1G is clearly weak this year, so you shouldn't have many problems. Wisky, Iowa, Northwestern, PSU, Indiana all showed themselves to be not quite ready for prime time. But that wasn't what I was saying. Michigan has a was to go before they have consistency and depth. After having all summer to put together a game plan for Alabama, I also question their coaching staff.

    Hoke's system is not to neutralize Denard's strength you old sack of hairy balls. That is not what a system is. Hoke and Borges' system is to utilize 6'3"+ receivers with two TE's in a pro-style, man-ball attack. We will be a run-first team. We have issues everywhere I just mentioned, according to you.

    The ball broken up by the DB against Gardner was great defense. He, nor any receiver is expected to come down with a ball like that. Not to mention it's his first game at the position. He's big, fast and athletic and I guarantee he will have a great year.

    I'm not sure what you think a coaching staff does, but if you haven't noticed, they do not play. Rich Rod was a dipshit and has left us with solid spread players who would be considered scraps in a pro-style offense.

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    Mitch Again

  • Bama's OLine was insane. They've got really good RBs who had giant holes to cut through.

    Denard is who he is. He's a ~50% passer who makes his plays with his feet. Bama had a good enough defense to take that away. Michigan looks to have like 1 playmaker. Fitz wouldn't have made that game any closer.

    ButchCassidy

  • Never Lose Hoke said...

    Bama that good, Denard is playing scared.

    Keep telling yourself that.

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    fishdiddy

  • Mitch Again said...

    "Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB"

    So if literally our entire team sucks in your opinion, what position did our coaches put them in? This game was scheduled 3 years ago by our athletic director. Once Hoke gets to use the system he and his defensive coordinators want and the top-5 recruiting classes who will fill those voids hit campus, we will be back to Championship form.

    While we got spanked around, most of that was provoked by them dominating the trenches. That will not happen against us all season, not even close, and the rest of our team will look much better IMO. I liked what I saw from Gardner and Gallon at WR, Fitz will be back, and we will surprise people during B1G play.

    lol

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  • ButchCassidy said...

    Bama's OLine was insane. They've got really good RBs who had giant holes to cut through.

    Denard is who he is. He's a ~50% passer who makes his plays with his feet. Bama had a good enough defense to take that away. Michigan looks to have like 1 playmaker. Fitz wouldn't have made that game any closer.

    I prefer to see it as UM defensive line blows but either way i think we are on the same page:)

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    fishdiddy

  • Maybe in the first few years when we began to dominate you could say well maybe the other team just sucked but by now people come on we been mudstomping good teams that still go on to have great seasons i wouldnt judge Michigan on this game. Theirs not many if any teams that are on our lvl.

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    CrimsonTemplar

  • Mitch Again said...

    Hoke's system is not to neutralize Denard's strength you old sack of hairy balls. That is not what a system is. Hoke and Borges' system is to utilize 6'3"+ receivers with two TE's in a pro-style, man-ball attack. We will be a run-first team. We have issues everywhere I just mentioned, according to you.

    The ball broken up by the DB against Gardner was great defense. He, nor any receiver is expected to come down with a ball like that. Not to mention it's his first game at the position. He's big, fast and athletic and I guarantee he will have a great year.

    I'm not sure what you think a coaching staff does, but if you haven't noticed, they do not play. Rich Rod was a dipshit and has left us with solid spread players who would be considered scraps in a pro-style offense.

    What game were you watching shrug

    When Denard wasnt throwing jump balls, he ran zone read the whole night.

    This post was edited by Jagstyle on 9/1/2012 at 11:57 PM

    Jagstyle ●

  • Yeah I think we need to wait a few weeks before judging UM. Bama is too good to judge off.

    ButchCassidy

  • sullkev said...

    What game were you watching shrug

    When Denard wasnt throwing jump balls, he ran zone read the whole night.

    The system I described is what we will be doing in the future. Obviously, not what we did earlier tonight.

    And I never mentioned anything about Denard

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  • Mitch Again said...

    "Clearly, they have a lot of issues on both lines, WR, RB, DBs and LB"

    So if literally our entire team sucks in your opinion, what position did our coaches put them in? This game was scheduled 3 years ago by our athletic director. Once Hoke gets to use the system he and his defensive coordinators want and the top-5 recruiting classes who will fill those voids hit campus, we will be back to Championship form.

    While we got spanked around, most of that was provoked by them dominating the trenches. That will not happen against us all season, not even close, and the rest of our team will look much better IMO. I liked what I saw from Gardner and Gallon at WR, Fitz will be back, and we will surprise people during B1G play.

    Yes it does.....and LMBO.......

    loco

    violinviolinviolinviolin

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    Bengalfan

  • Mitch Again said...

    The system I described is what we will be doing in the future. Obviously, not what we did earlier tonight.

    And I never mentioned anything about Denard

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    Jagstyle ●

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    This. And as for the insufferable fvcks from EL, you barely beat a depleted pile of shit that is Boise St. Not to mention Denard is winning the int battle against a far superior defense.

    but you're comparing a 3-year starting senior to a guy starting his first game ever

    jwarsenal9

  • Michigan was not a top 20 team and Bama is a top 3 team. Expectations where way to high for Michigan based on last season where every bounce went their way. That includes avoiding top team in the big ten and backing into a BCS game where the opponent ended up being Va Tech. On top of that it was a real bad match-up for them. Hoke and his recruiting has them headed in the right direction, but it won't be this year.

    dustelli ●

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    This. And as for the insufferable fvcks from EL, you barely beat a depleted pile of shit that is Boise St. Not to mention Denard is winning the int battle against a far superior defense.

    Is 1:2 considered "winning the INT battle"?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

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