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Is FSU the number 2 team in the country?

  • I honestly think Oregon, ND, and K State could beat Alabama.

    lol

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    DrStache ●

  • Slevin said...

    I completely agree with LSU and SCar's rankings. Don't agree with them at all. LSU has no business still being a top 7 team after 2 losses. You might think you're good, but your record says otherwise. I'm not saying the SEC is a juggernaut this year either. I don't rank the SEC's significance until bowl season is over. Last year is a wash I don't even count that because I thought Oklahoma State should have honestly gotten in. Beside that though, you can't argue that national championships are what define your program and nowadays, I guess, define your conference.

    UF was a laughing stock in 06. Kirk Herbstreit blew out his left nut defending Michigan. What happened? Florida took a massive dump on the state of Ohio and Michigan got raped by USCw. It's hard to argue any other team was better or would have beaten the SEC's last 6 national champions. OU's offense in 08 was the greatest offense in college football history and UF held them to 14 points.

    Again, I know you're talking about this year and who's to say the SEC is still a juggernaut, but until someone comes along and knocks us out, we'll still hold that perception. I think it'll take just one NC game loss to spread the love evenly again but it needs to happen and the rest of the country needs to get their shit together and beat one of us in the only game that matters. I honestly think Oregon, ND, and K State could beat Alabama. And I'm really pulling for Notre Dame to get in that game. What an epic showdown that'd be. Notre Dame vs. Alabama.

    SC is going to smoke ND. Guranteed.

    KeepOnDucking

  • Keep-On-Ducking said...

    SC is going to smoke ND. Guranteed.

    I picked OU to beat ND by 28. Not going against the Irish anymore.

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    Slevin

  • OP answer, no

    This post was edited by ducklefty on 11/9/2012 at 12:21 AM

    ducklefty

  • Keep-On-Ducking said...

    SC is going to smoke ND. Guranteed.

    If the team that showed up against us shows up, yes. If the other one shows up, hell no.

    ducklefty

  • ducklefty said...

    If the team that showed up against us shows up, yes. If the other one shows up, hell no.

    surrenderlol

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    ifinnen ●

  • you mean the team that let up 700 Yds and more than 60 points??

    yeah, ok

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    ifinnen ●

  • ifinnen said...

    you mean the team that let up 700 Yds and more than 60 points??

    yeah, ok

    Luckily ND can't put up that much in practice.

    But I forgot its tBB and Oregon sucks at football with that damn gimmicky stuff blah

    ducklefty

  • ifinnen said...

    you mean the team that let up 700 Yds and more than 60 points??

    yeah, ok

    Luckily ND can't put up that much in practice.

    But I forgot its tBB and Oregon sucks at football with that damn gimmicky stuff

    blah

    ducklefty

  • ifinnen said...

    you mean the team that let up 700 Yds and more than 60 points??

    yeah, ok

    lulz at your inept offense.

    KennyWheatonFTW ●

  • KennyWheatonFTW said...

    lulz at your inept offense.

    Its way worse having a inept defense, its why offensive teams that don't have a defense have never won it all

    Not ever

    Gotta have a defense, Oregon doesn't have one

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Its way worse having a inept defense, its why offensive teams that don't have a defense have never won it all

    Not ever

    Gotta have a defense, Oregon doesn't have one

    LSU gave up 20 points per game in 2007(I think that is the right year). Oregon is sitting at 22 right now. Not a big difference at all. Kansas State is at 18.

    Having a great defense is good and all. You also need an offense. Check those LSU, Florida, and USC teams that won the championship. The Texas team as well. They all had really good offenses as well.

    I would say Florida is looking the best so far this year on defense, to be honest. They are at 12 points per game with that tough schedule, but their offense isn't good enough to get them over the hump. It takes balance. That is why I like KSU the best to beat Alabama this year.

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  • MarineMountie said...

    LSU gave up 20 points per game in 2007(I think that is the right year). Oregon is sitting at 22 right now. Not a big difference at all. Kansas State is at 18.

    Having a great defense is good and all. You also need an offense. Check those LSU, Florida, and USC teams that won the championship. The Texas team as well. They all had really good offenses as well.

    I would say Florida is looking the best so far this year on defense, to be honest. They are at 12 points per game with that tough schedule, but their offense isn't good enough to get them over the hump. It takes balance. That is why I like KSU the best to beat Alabama this year.

    Agreed, but those defenses were all loaded with big fast talented studs

    Oregon is not

    PPG is a meaningless stat really

    Also UF hasn't really faced any great offenses on their schedule

    I think FSU's defense is better than UF's and LSU's is the best imo, with Bama being #2

    1- LSU
    2- Bama
    3- FSU
    4- UF
    5- ND

    Nobody else is truly elite on defense, maybe Kansas St but Im not a believer just yet

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    NoVaNoles ●

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Agreed, but those defenses were all loaded with big fast talented studs

    Oregon is not

    PPG is a meaningless stat really

    Also UF hasn't really faced any great offenses on their schedule

    I think FSU's defense is better than UF's and LSU's is the best imo, with Bama being #2

    1- LSU 2- Bama 3- FSU 4- UF 5- ND

    Nobody else is truly elite on defense, maybe Kansas St but Im not a believer just yet

    Oregon is really far away from the studs LSU had on that 2007 defense.

    Oregon will continue to have a shitty defense until they learn how to slow the tempo down. No team has ever won a MNC being ranked in the bottom 20 every year in T.O.P.

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  • Slevin said...

    I picked OU to beat ND by 28. Not going against the Irish anymore.

    Even though SC has three losses I still think they are better then their record shows. They are going to be fired up for the ND game and are going to want to make a statement. I think they put up some serious points on the Irish. I see 48-24 final score in favor of the Trojans.

    Then again you are right. ND has had the luck of the Irish this season. Pun intended, but I still feel ND will fall to Troy big time. As much as people think they have an elite D they haven't faced an offense of SC's caliber. ND is very strong in their front seven, but their secondary isn't that impressive. Lee, Woods and Agahlor are going to put up big numbers.

    If ND can get good preasure on Barkley they'll have a shot, but if Barkley has time he'll pick ND's DB's apart.

    KeepOnDucking

  • ducklefty said...

    If the team that showed up against us shows up, yes. If the other one shows up, hell no.

    Exactly. SC has the Jekel and Hyde syndrome going on big time. You don't know what SC you are going to get, but I think they'll rise to the occassion and play lights out.

    This post was edited by KeepOnDucking on 11/9/2012 at 3:54 AM

    KeepOnDucking

  • ifinnen said...

    you mean the team that let up 700 Yds and more than 60 points??

    yeah, ok

    ND's offense couldn't put up points like that even if they faced no defense at all. No offense my man, but prepare yourself for a letdown. Just trying to prepare you now for your NC hopes to drift away. Granted, you'll make a BCS bowl and you should be more then happy that ND had a one loss season. Not too shaby considering you've been terrible for a long, long time.

    This post was edited by KeepOnDucking on 11/9/2012 at 4:01 AM

    KeepOnDucking

  • ducklefty said...

    Luckily ND can't put up that much in practice.

    But I forgot its tBB and Oregon sucks at football with that damn gimmicky stuff blah

    Yup. And the Ducks haven't faced a defense yet either even though Az State has one of the top rated D's in the nation and we took them to school. Az State is a top D that actually plays teams with offenses too, but of course they suck, just like Oregon.

    KeepOnDucking

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Its way worse having a inept defense, its why offensive teams that don't have a defense have never won it all

    Not ever

    Gotta have a defense, Oregon doesn't have one

    The Patriots have won the super bowl a few times running a gimicky spread offense while having one of the worse D's in the nfl.

    KeepOnDucking

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Its way worse having a inept defense, its why offensive teams that don't have a defense have never won it all

    Not ever

    Gotta have a defense, Oregon doesn't have one

    One bad defensive game doesn't quite equal inept. You'll see what a good offense can do against an "elite D" when SC plays ND and when the Ducks play Bama. Actually you have seen what a good offense can do against an "elite D" when you played Clemson. Where was FSU's elite D that day? Lol. They had a bad game. Just my point. It happens.

    I'm not saying Oregon has an elite D by any means, but you are going off of one game against one of the most electric offenses in CFB. And SC played their best game offensively all season against Oregon.

    If you want to do research look up Oregons D stats in the first halfs of all their games for the exception of the SC game. I know you won't do that, but you'd be surprised at what you find. But whatever. You will never give Oregon any love even if they beat Bama by twenty in the NCG. You're just a hater...period!!!

    Look up interceptions, passes defended, red zone D, points on turnovers. Oregon actually has more sacks then Bama, FSU and LSU and these are all stats put up in playing in one half of football each game against teams that play offense.

    Seriously, look at points allowed and rush/pass yards allowed and yards per carry for just the first halfs when our first string was playing.

    KeepOnDucking

  • Keep-On-Ducking said...

    One bad defensive game doesn't quite equal inept. You'll see what a good offense can do against an "elite D" when SC plays ND and when the Ducks play Bama. Actually you have seen what a good offense can do against an "elite D" when you played Clemson. Where was FSU's elite D that day? Lol. They had a bad game. Just my point. It happens.

    I'm not saying Oregon has an elite D by any means, but you are going off of one game against one of the most electric offenses in CFB. And SC played their best game offensively all season against Oregon.

    If you want to do research look up Oregons D stats in the first halfs of all their games for the exception of the SC game. I know you won't do that, but you'd be surprised at what you find. But whatever. You will never give Oregon any love even if they beat Bama by twenty in the NCG. You're just a hater...period!!!

    Look up interceptions, passes defended, red zone D, points on turnovers. Oregon actually has more sacks then Bama, FSU and LSU and these are all stats put up in playing in one half of football each game against teams that play offense.

    Seriously, look at points allowed and rush/pass yards allowed and yards per carry for just the first halfs when our first string was playing.

    You do know football is played in four quarters not two, and Oregon has not been consistent on d through both halves no matter what string is in.

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    duvalnole

  • lmao at ducking responding in 7 straight posts

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    NoVaNoles ●

  • duvalnole said...

    You do know football is played in four quarters not two, and Oregon has not been consistent on d through both halves no matter what string is in.

    My point is our first string team has only played in the second half twice this year so it's hard to tell where our D would be had our ones been playing full games all season. Most teams first stringers are going to be better then fourth stringers. And for the exception of the SC game Oregons first string D is very consistent when they're in the game and actually quite dominate. The majority of points put up against Oregon have been in the second halfs when we were playing our fourth stringers, not even the twos or threes, but our fours. That's my point.

    KeepOnDucking

  • NoVaNoles said...

    lmao at ducking responding in 7 straight posts

    :) You got to get it in there when you can my man. Lol

    KeepOnDucking

  • duvalnole said...

    fingergun only SEC teams can struggle on the road against bad teams from their conference, but when another teams does it they are not a top 10 team.

    FACT...just like Towson. (shhh)

    Bill Cutting

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