Online Now 3071

The Blue Board

We aren't just committed to college football; we're early enrolling in it.

On this Board 2155
Record: 7394 (2/14/2012)

Online now 3296
Record: 18710 (2/25/2012)

Boards ▾

The Blue Board

We aren't just committed to college football; we're early enrolling in it.

247Rumors

College football scuttlebutt and scoop- powered by Football Rumor Mill

The Green Board

Where the madness isn't just in March.

Big Ten Board (Beta)

Reply

Is Joe Flacco a top ten QB?

  • Flacco did not throw one INT in the playoffs.

    Yes

    Bills2

  • Gotta be in the 7-10 range.

    SCirish843

  • oriolekid said...

    Well you could have Matt Ryan and his statistically better offense and defense.

    Or you could have Joe Flacco who does nothing but win when it matters most.

    Flacco led his team to a superbowl. That automatically puts him ahead of all the QBs that have never won it all.

    That last statement is retarded. So Flacco is better than Marino?

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    That last statement is retarded. So Flacco is better than Marino?

    It's such a dumb argument. Trent Dilfer >>>>>> Marino? What a stupid thing to say.

    signature image

    #DicedPineapples

    shavisimo2

  • Bills2 said...

    Flacco did not throw one INT in the playoffs.

    Yes

    And I am talking about active. He isn't top 10 all time

    Bills2

  • shalvoy said...

    If not, name 9 better.

    Rodgers
    Brady
    Manning
    Brees
    Big Ben
    RG3
    Luck
    Kap
    Wilson
    Ryan
    Eli

    Rivers is right there too, probably a better QB but hasn't played great recently or won recently.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Rodgers Brady Manning Brees Big Ben RG3 Luck Kap Wilson Ryan Eli

    Rivers is right there too, probably a better QB but hasn't played great recently or won recently.

    I'm at 4 SD games a year, Rivers losses us almost as many as he wins us anymore, and if I'm not mistaken Flacco had a hell of a lot better game than Kap and the jury's still out on Wilson, Luck and RG3. If I'm not mistaken, a certain Cam had a great rookie season only to follow it up with a dud.....and you said Matty Iceroflmao

    This post was edited by shalvoy on 2/4/2013 at 2:13 PM

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    I'm at 4 SD games a year, Rivers losses us almost as many as he wins us anymore, and if I'm not mistaken he had a hell of a lot better game than Kap and the juries still out on Wilson, Luck and RG3. If I'm not mistaken, a certain Cam had a great rookie season only to follow it up with a dud.....and you said Matty Iceroflmao

    Matt Ryan is a better QB than Flacco. He hasn't had postseason success but he's a better QB. Flacco was a joke at the end of the regular season and his QB rating is average.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Matt Ryan is a better QB than Flacco. He hasn't had postseason success but he's a better QB. Flacco was a joke at the end of the regular season and his QB rating is average.

    Agree to disagree. The 7-10 spots are subjective at best.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    Agree to disagree. The 7-10 spots are subjective at best.

    Everything after 4 is very subjective. I have Matty Ice near the top of that next tier, but you could convince me of about 10 other guys there too.

    signature image

    #DicedPineapples

    shavisimo2

  • shavisimo2 said...

    Everything after 4 is very subjective. I have Matty Ice near the top of that next tier, but you could convince me of about 10 other guys there too.

    nerd Troof.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    nerd Troof.

    That dud season you say Cam had was pretty much the same season Flacco had

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    That dud season you say Cam had was pretty much the same season Flacco had

    I guess next year will be telling then. I want more elite QBs in the NFL, but inevitably one or two fall of every year and one or two step up every year. Josh Freeman - had high hopes for him and he laid an egg. The QB market is pretty volatile.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    I guess next year will be telling then. I want more elite QBs in the NFL, but inevitably one or two fall of every year and one or two step up every year. Josh Freeman - had high hopes for him and he laid an egg. The QB market is pretty volatile.

    Definitely agree.

    Another question, would you guys pay Flacco the 5 year, 100 million contract?

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Definitely agree.

    Another question, would you guys pay Flacco the 5 year, 100 million contract?

    Id pay any QB who can win me a SB and play in the playoffs on the ROAD against PEYTON and BRADY like Joe did.

    And Rivers, Kapernick, Luck and RG3 and Russell Wilson are not better qbs than Flacco.

    Maybe one day Kap, Luck and RG3 will be, but not now.

    Based on body of work ill take a season with a SBMVP over a ROY like RG3.

    signature image

    I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.

    psu2013

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Definitely agree.

    Another question, would you guys pay Flacco the 5 year, 100 million contract?

    In a word, no. In three words, not even close. I think he's more 12-15m, good , not great.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • psu2013 said...

    Id pay any QB who can win me a SB and play in the playoffs on the ROAD against PEYTON and BRADY like Joe did.

    And Rivers, Kapernick, Luck and RG3 and Russell Wilson are not better qbs than Flacco.

    Maybe one day Kap, Luck and RG3 will be, but not now.

    Based on body of work ill take a season with a SBMVP over a ROY like RG3.

    I'd pay him too, but not Drew Brees money. He isn't even close to being on that level. They really have no choice, but to pay him though.

    I'd take Kap, Luck, RG3 and Wilson over Flacco for next year.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    I'd pay him too, but not Drew Brees money. He isn't even close to being on that level. They really have no choice, but to pay him though.

    I'd take Kap, Luck, RG3 and Wilson over Flacco for next year.

    Flacco's stats since Cam Cameron got fired. (Excluding week 17 game where he only played 1 series)

    118-202 1703 yards 15 TD's(16 total) 1 INT 8.43 YPA
    That's 6 total games.

    In a 16 game season that's 4541 yards 40 TD 3 INT

    Obviously that's not going to happen next year because it would be the greatest statistical season for a QB in NFL history, but you know who else underachieved/sucked under Cam Cameron?

    Drew Brees. Now look at him.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by oriolekid on 2/4/2013 at 4:29 PM

    oriolekid

  • oriolekid said...

    Flacco's stats since Cam Cameron got fired. (Excluding week 17 game where he only played 1 series)

    118-202 1703 yards 15 TD's(16 total) 1 INT 8.43 YPA That's 6 total games.

    In a 16 game season that's 4541 yards 40 TD 3 INT

    Obviously that's not going to happen next year because it would be the greatest statistical season for a QB in NFL history, but you know who else underachieved/sucked under Cam Cameron?

    Drew Brees. Now look at him.

    He got hot in the playoffs and so did the whole Ravens team. I'm not taking that away from him, he played great, but until he can put it together for a full season he isn't top 10 for me. The guy has an average QB rating and that really says it all for me. You don't pay a guy 100 million when he's been great for one playoff run.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • psu2013 said...

    Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Eli, Matt Ryan, Then Joe Flacoo.

    What has Matt Ryan done to prove he is better than Flacco? He was 1 playoff win to 9 for Flacco. And I think 6 or 7 of those were road wins.

    signature image signature image signature image

    "Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    joetheogre

  • MZizzle2 said...

    Definitely agree.

    Another question, would you guys pay Flacco the 5 year, 100 million contract?

    I wouldn't give him that as a free agent, but if I am the Ravens, yes. He is the face of that franchise and losing him would be a big blow.

    signature image signature image signature image

    "Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    joetheogre

  • joetheogre said...

    What has Matt Ryan done to prove he is better than Flacco? He was 1 playoff win to 9 for Flacco. And I think 6 or 7 of those were road wins.

    He's a better QB and his numbers prove that. It's a team game, one player can't win or lose you a game. The argument about Flacco winning more playoff games and Super Bowls means nothing to me. Dan Marino didn't win many playoff games and no Super Bowls, but he's arguably the best QB ever.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2

  • MZizzle2 said...

    one player can't win or lose you a game. T

    Probably one of the dumbest things I've read in a while.

    oriolekid

  • oriolekid said...

    Probably one of the dumbest things I've read in a while.

    Its actually very true. Did the Vikings win the SB this year or the Packers or the Patriots or the Broncos? I'm pretty sure AD, Rodgers, Brady and Manning are among the top guys in the league, but they didn't win it all. Its a team game and unless you have a complete team you won't win the SB.

    The dumbest thing said in this thread was that because Flacco won a SB he is better than any QB who hasn't. That is beyond dumb actually.

    signature image signature image signature image

    MZizzle2