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Is it the restaurants problem? Customer self-entitlement

  • SCirish843 said...

    You realize you didn't actually agree with him right? He's saying it would be ok to take his kids to said movie theater and if you don't wanna run the risk of running into shitty parents then don't leave the house.

    I quoted the wrong person.

    I don't mind babies at a chain restaurant or middle class restaurant but you do not bring babies to more expensive places.

    The ONLY way I wouldn't mind babies at some average place would be if the parent got up and brought the kid outside until the baby quit crying.

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  • gobucks72 said...

    Thats fine with me because those people have nothing to do with me. I can sleep well at night knowing I went out with my family and had a good time.

    Wow. Selfish people who only care about themselves suck

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  • Lesticals said...

    I quoted the wrong person.

    I don't mind babies at a chain restaurant or middle class restaurant but you do not bring babies to more expensive places.

    The ONLY way I wouldn't mind babies at some average place would be if the parent got up and brought the kid outside until the baby quit crying.

    Which I've seen happen. Hey, I told him to go to Olive Garden but he seems to think his kid's noise which he undoubtedly learned to tune out is somehow our problem now.

    SCirish843

  • gobucks72 said...

    Thats fine with me because those people have nothing to do with me. I can sleep well at night knowing I went out with my family and had a good time.

    You, good sir, are a dickhead.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    Like I said, depends on the establishment. Your "I don't care what others think of me and my kids as long as I have a good time." comment does in fact make you a shitty person. You probably also sit down at a 4 star restaurant and complain about a lack of booster seats or kids menus. Everybody else is paying what you are paying except they didn't show up with walking mess makers.

    If the kid/kids are running around screaming throwing food yea thats rude. I can take my 4 year old anywhere without him acting up. He sits there eats his food. How is that being shitty? Kids don't have to eat off a kids menu only. They eat the same food as any adult.

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  • gobucks72 said...

    Thats fine with me because those people have nothing to do with me. I can sleep well at night knowing I went out with my family and had a good time.

    Just to be clear people all I am saying is if I can take my child to a restaurant with no issues then why would I care if a person thought that I was a asshole because I brought my kid.

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  • SCirish843 said...

    Which I've seen happen. Hey, I told him to go to Olive Garden but he seems to think his kid's noise which he undoubtedly learned to tune out is somehow our problem now.

    You are assuming the worst situation possible. You do know that is not always the case when people take there kids out to dinner right?

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  • gobucks72 said...

    Just to be clear people all I am saying is if I can take my child to a restaurant with no issues then why would I care if a person thought that I was a asshole because I brought my kid.

    Oooh totally different.

    Anyway, what would you consider an example of someone taking issue that you disagree with?

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  • My side on this conversation has changed in the last 16 months.

    Now that I have a child, who is awesome IMO, I feel the exact same way I felt before.

    I eat at the same places we used to eat, and I usually bring my son....not bc I can't get a babysitter, he enjoys going out.

    Tonight, we went to Ollie's midtown in Mobile. We got there early....i wouldn't take my kids out to eat at 8 pm. Asking for trouble. I made an adjustment to my lifestyle and we went at 5:30.

    He wanted to run around, wave to people, play at the window; so I let him.

    Then dinner came, we ate, he enjoyed himself, and we left..,,in and out in 45 minutes.

    I appreciate places that get us out food quickly, bc you never know when a meltdown may be coming.

    If we do have a meltdown, we get a box to go while one of us takes Finn outside. I don't expect everyone in a restaurant to have to experience my son when he's upset. That's not fair to y'all.

    And end rant...to op question...no, not entitled. I'd spit in their wine and comp it bc it's the nice thing to do.

    This post was edited by Freeze on 2/23/2013 at 8:20 PM

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Oooh totally different.

    Anyway, what would you consider an example of someone taking issue that you disagree with?

    Not sure every situation is different. I do know that if i take my kid out to eat it is my responsibility to make sure he behaves. I can handle that. But I don't walk in to a resturant and see a child sitting down eating and think wow what a bunch of assholes because they brought there kids.

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  • gobucks72 said...

    If the kid/kids are running around screaming throwing food yea thats rude. I can take my 4 year old anywhere without him acting up. He sits there eats his food. How is that being shitty? Kids don't have to eat off a kids menu only. They eat the same food as any adult.

    Does your toddler prefer the duck confit or a good American veal?

    SCirish843

  • Freeze said...

    My side on this conversation has changed in the last 16 months.

    Now that I have a child, who is awesome IMO, I feel the exact same way I felt before.

    I eat at the same places we used to eat, and I usually bring my son....not bc I can't get a babysitter, he enjoys going out.

    Tonight, we went to Ollie's midtown in Mobile. We got there early....i wouldn't take my kids out to eat at 8 pm. Asking for trouble. I made an adjustment to my lifestyle and we went at 5:30.

    He wanted to run around, wave to people, play at the window; so I let him.

    Then dinner came, we ate, he enjoyed himself, and we left..,,in and out in 45 minutes.

    I appreciate places that get us out food quickly, bc you never know when a meltdown may be coming.

    If we do have a meltdown, we get a box to go while one of us takes Finn outside. I don't expect everyone in a restaurant to have to experience my son when he's upset. That's not fair to y'all.

    Agree 100%

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  • SCirish843 said...

    Does your toddler prefer the duck confit or a good American veal?

    As long as you tell him it's chicken he doesn't care.

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  • gobucks72 said...

    Not sure every situation is different. I do know that if i take my kid out to eat it is my responsibility to make sure he behaves. I can handle that. But I don't walk in to a resturant and see a child sitting down eating and think wow what a bunch of assholes because they brought there kids.

    Those places exist, especially in Charleston, where kids are inappropriate in any circumstance but that's not what we're talking about. The original comment was based on the OP's scenario of decent restaurant and awful kids/parenting. What dude just described with going a tad early to what I can only assume being because of tired/cranky kids and having an emergency 'exit strategy' would suffice for any setting. I'm not naive enough to think you won't hear a peep out of a child.

    SCirish843

  • I hate taking my 3 yr old to restaurants. But one time I did some old bitchface gave me the evil eye and it took a lot of restraint for me to not walk over and put my finger into her space and declare her publicly to be an old bitchface

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  • SCirish843 said...

    Those places exist, especially in Charleston, where kids are inappropriate in any circumstance but that's not what we're talking about. The original comment was based on the OP's scenario of decent restaurant and awful kids/parenting. What dude just described with going a tad early to what I can only assume being because of tired/cranky kids and having an emergency 'exit strategy' would suffice for any setting. I'm not naive enough to think you won't hear a peep out of a child.

    http://www.marlowstavern.com/food

    Is this place acceptable to bring kids? I think it is.

    "The original comment was based on the OP's scenario of decent restaurant and awful kids/parenting."

    Your sentence sums it up for me when you included the parents. Also it sounds like to me the grandparent was being louder than the child.

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  • 1st_and_NOLE said...

    So I was at dinner tonight with the GF. We were at a place called Marlows (one of our favs for those in the Atlanta area).

    Anyway, the table next to us seemedwas what appeared to be grandparents out to dinner with their kid/in law and grandchild (3 or 4 years old). They were passing the baby around amongst themselves. The grandmother was holding the baby and the kid was flailing its arms and legs around and knocked over her wine. The grandmother proceeded to loudly get the attention of the server and demand a new glass of wine, stating they hadn't taken a sip and expected a full glass.

    Now, I'm sure under almost any circumstance they would have replaced a glass of wine out of sheer customer service. But, the way this lady approached it asinine.

    Is it the restaurants problem in that situation and should someone EXPECT to get a new glass of wine for free?

    That old grandma is a bitch for asking for a free refill. Bitches happen...

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  • SCirish843 said...

    If you're family consists of 3-4yr olds and that 'anywhere' is a place where people pay good money to have a nice time ie. mid to upper scale restaurants, theatres, etc. then yes, it's inconsiderate. You're punishing others for your refusal to want to parent your children, hire a babysitter.

    It depends on the child. I have always taken my daughter to nice restaurants. She is quiet and respectful so there has never been a problem. However I do agree with you that if you cannot control your kid, you should out of respect for others find a babysitter.

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  • mtreber1 said...

    It depends on the child. I have always taken my daughter to nice restaurants. She is quiet and respectful so there has never been a problem. However I do agree with you that if you cannot control your kid, you should out of respect for others find a babysitter.

    He is not saying if you can't control your kids. He is saying all kids good or bad. Doesn't matter to him. If he sees a kid your an asshole. shrug

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  • gobucks72 said...

    http://www.marlowstavern.com/food

    Is this place acceptable to bring kids? I think it is.

    "The original comment was based on the OP's scenario of decent restaurant and awful kids/parenting."

    Your sentence sums it up for me when you included the parents. Also it sounds like to me the grandparent was being louder than the child.

    Didn't need to click because it had the word tavern in it, but I did anyway. Certainly child appropriate. Why you would take old people and babies there is another story all together...

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  • gobucks72 said...

    He is not saying if you can't control your kids. He is saying all kids good or bad. Doesn't matter to him. If he sees a kid your an asshole. shrug

    Well then I guess I am an asshole. I have always taken my daughter to nice restaurants. She does not get out of her chair and does not cry or scream. The one time she tried to pull the screaming crap with me we were fortunately at a Chili's and I snatched her little butt up and we went outside. She had not eaten yet and I explained to her in very clear terms that I had no interest in hearing her scream and I loved her......I was sure that no one around us wanted to hear her scream. I also explained to her that we were not going back in until she stopped so if she wanted lunch she needed to behave. I have never had a problem since. I actually have had people come up and thank me for my daughter's behavior on numerous occasions.

    Let me just say that I am not and never was a big kid person. I have always felt that no matter the restaurant, chain or upscale, I am paying money to eat out and I really do not want to do it in the middle of RomperRoom. Because of that, you could eat dinner in the same restaurant with my daughter and you would not know that she was there.

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  • I have 3 kids age 6 ,4and 2. Went to outback tonight. Do it all the time. No problems. I probably wouldn't take my kids to Flemmings( high end steak joint for those who don't know). I hardly notice kids now. Before I had kids they drove me nuts in places. We have taken them all kinds of places since they were born. They have always been decent. But they know if they act like they are 6 and 4 and are idiots they won't go anywhere.

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  • Go bucky go said...

    I have 3 kids age 6 ,4and 2. Went to outback tonight. Do it all the time. No problems. I probably wouldn't take my kids to Flemmings( high end steak joint for those who don't know). I hardly notice kids now. Before I had kids they drove me nuts in places. We have taken them all kinds of places since they were born. They have always been decent. But they know if they act like they are 6 and 4 and are idiots they won't go anywhere.

    FYI on Flemmings: drop 800 bucks on a nice grill. Get some montreal steak rub. Buy some solid $10/pound strips from your local grocery store (that has a good meat section). Rub those mofos down like you're massaging your wife's backside. Hit those bad boys on the grill at 650 or so. 3-4 minutes a side.

    Enjoy. Quarter price steaks. Better than at Flemings. Will save you thousands once your kids start eating.

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  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    FYI on Flemmings: drop 800 bucks on a nice grill. Get some montreal steak rub. Buy some solid $10/pound strips from your local grocery store (that has a good meat section). Rub those mofos down like you're massaging your wife's backside. Hit those bad boys on the grill at 650 or so. 3-4 minutes a side.

    Enjoy. Quarter price steaks. Better than at Flemings. Will save you thousands once your kids start eating.

    I got all that. I actually like outback steaks and a couple local places better. Always thought the worst part about Flemmings was I couldn't drink a sip of,water without them filling the glass up as I was setting it back down. I just want to eat and have basic service.

    Go bucky go

  • Go bucky go said...

    I got all that. I actually like outback steaks and a couple local places better. Always thought the worst part about Flemmings was I couldn't drink a sip of,water without them filling the glass up as I was setting it back down. I just want to eat and have basic service.

    If you want an amazing steak, hit up a Ruth Chris steakhouse. They do a butter sear at like 1500. No way you can duplicate that.

    But anybody can rock out a Fleming's steak with like an $800 investment. If you've got kids, that pays for itself in like a year.

    ramssuperbowl99