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  • BetterOff said...

    I haven't completely decided yet. I am for what he is planning to do for the immigration process in this country for one thing. I would like to see that have a chance to get pushed through. Other than that I am still undecided for the most part. I do need to learn a little more on Romney, but from what I have learned, they are almost the same candidate honestly. I probably would have voted for just about every candidate since Dukakis over either one of them.

    The major news networks have completely ruined politics in this country. We had a better chance for better candidates before we had to learn every little skeleton in their closets. That digging threw Guliani out of the race, when he probably would have been a great President, IMO. Even as a Decmocrat, I would have voted for him. I try to vote Republican, as I am not thrilled on what the Democratic Party completely stands for anymore, but I am not voting for someone that wants to serve as the world's moral compass either.

    Believe me, Romney and Obama have STARK economic differences in terms of the Federal Govt's role.

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Nobody said it excuses anything. I was being as extreme/ridiculous as you were. The fact that we are even discussing this shows how ignorant we used to be as a society. But as far as I'm concerned, I don't owe any black person a thing... Or any woman, Indian American, etc. I don't want to live my life trying to makeup for someone elses ignorance. Not my problem.

    So let me understand, you don't think this COUNTRY owes the African American community anything, or just you specifically? And if it's you specifically, how do you feel about your tax dollars going towards helping out the African American community? The same question can be asked of Woman in America.

    This post was edited by appoo on 6/20/2012 at 10:45 AM

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  • appoo said...

    So let me understand, you don't think this COUNTRY owes the African American community anything, or just you specifically? And if it's you specifically, how do you feel about your tax dollars going towards helping out the African American community? The same question can be asked of Woman in America.

    Why do we owe them anything?

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  • I guess we owe the British, Nazi's, Italians, French, Iraqis, Iranis, and Columbia's... give me a freaking break you pansy

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Why do we owe them anything?

    Exactly. If it wasnt for the "white people" they would be in africa all starving and dieing of diseases. so they need to stfu

    civildawg88

  • aumajorpain said...

    Why do we owe them anything?

    Well...we brought them to this country as slaves, and that continued into the late 1800s...and even then, we viewed them - legally - as lesser human beings. 45 years ago, they weren't allowed to even vote. Businesses were legally allowed to be prejudiced against them. So for 150 years, they were paid less wages, were refused positions in management, weren't allowed to live where they wanted, weren't allowed to hang out where they wanted, and basically weren't allowed to live freely and earn a living wage. Instead, America forced them to live in our worst neighborhoods, we gave them our worst paid teachers, next to no police protection or infrastructure, and basically legalized bigotry towards them. This only started to change 40 years ago or so, when the civil rights movement in America started.

    You know why there are more blacks associated with gang violence, poverty, and crime? Because that's what we forced them to turn to, by forcing them to live in neighborhoods with horrible schools, hospitals, and police coverage. By refusing them high paying jobs. These are people that HAD to turn to crime and selling drugs as a basic way of survival. It is White America's fault that happened.

    THAT is why we owe much to the African American community, as a nation. Their problems, were caused by America's legalized bigotry.

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  • civildawg88 said...

    Exactly. If it wasnt for the "white people" they would be in africa all starving and dieing of diseases. so they need to stfu

    Aw man, look at you typing all tough and shit. lol

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  • stoptothink said...

    huh I am hispanic, but Mormon...what is my race? One of my roommates is black, the other is Polynesian; they are both Mormon. What about them?

    Hispanic isn’t a race.

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    I don't mind with some of the scholarship opportunities and so forth... Their education system (segregated schools) was inferior to white peoples all the way up into the late 60's. I do take issue with some of the diversity stuff like hiring a less qualified person just bc of race.

    I have some issues of Affirmitive Action as well - but all on the execution side. That said, I don't have a problem with the idea. The schools many blacks neighborhoods have are pretty poor when it comes to facilities and teachers - they are at a significant disadvantage at the college level because they base it on standardized testing. The same is true of hiring of minorities. They simply have less opportunity to shine at the beginning of the process - but like I said, I have some big issues of the execution of how this done.

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  • Aussie said...

    Are you on the Real World? There is no way a grouping of people this diverse happens organically.

    roflmao

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Why do we owe them anything?

    thats what i'm trying to figure out..

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  • Mexicans don't complain and they are some of the hardest workers........

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  • appoo said...

    Minority groups tend to group together, because they are minorities.

    This.

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  • aumajorpain said...

    Why do we owe them anything?

    You can kill that ”them” noise. I can't speak for the next black man, but I don't want a damn thing given to me by a white person or anybody for that matter.

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  • I wouldn’t care. But it wouldn't make sense, since White people are such a huge group of people in this country with different socioeconomic factors. I’m sure the campaign has ethnic group’s though like “Jew’s For Romney”, “Italian’s For Romney”, “Irish For Romeny” etc.

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  • Action Figure said...

    You can kill that ”them” noise. I can't speak for the next black man, but I don't want a damn thing given to me by a white person or anybody for that matter.

    great news

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    great news

    You were trying to figure it out. Glad I could help.

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  • Some people need a history lesson.

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  • Action Figure said...

    You can kill that ”them” noise. I can't speak for the next black man, but I don't want a damn thing given to me by a white person or anybody for that matter.

    How about a quality education, police coverage, and health care?

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Last time I checked white people didn't sell them into slavery so I guess your real issue here is with the African's themselves... but that wouldn't fit your argument so it's a moot point.

    In the interest of full disclosure, the majority of slaves - though some tribe leaders were complicit - were taken by Spanish, Portuguese, and The British, and brought to the new world, then sold into slavery. The Tribal leaders from Africa to the Europeans to the Americans are all equally responsible. If we don't pay the premium there is no trade. Obama trying to galvanize the black vote is no more racist than Romney trying to pander to his base (white).

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    I think women get overlooked with this... They were less educated, weren't allowed to work outside of the home, not promoted accordingly when they did work, couldn't vote / voice their opinions, etc.... Yet women's rights is still a laughable topic with most people.

    yes.

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  • civildawg88 said...

    Exactly. If it wasnt for the "white people" they would be in africa all starving and dieing of diseases. so they need to stfu

    This is the epitome of an ignorant post.

    HBCU93

  • shalvoy said...

    In the interest of full disclosure, the majority of slaves - though some tribe leaders were complicit - were taken by Spanish, Portuguese, and The British, and brought to the new world, then sold into slavery. The Tribal leaders from Africa to the Europeans to the Americans are all equally responsible. If we don't pay the premium there is no trade. Obama trying to galvanize the black vote is no more racist than Romney trying to pander to his base (white).

    The Dutch too?

    buttesnake

  • Action Figure said...

    You were trying to figure it out. Glad I could help.

    cheers
    now go and pass the feeling on

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    cheers

    Naw, I'm good.

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