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Is usury a sin?

  • goodnews said...

    The law was given to a national Israel about 3,400 years ago as a rule to live by in Israel. That command was part of a plethora of commands given to Gods people in order to show them how to live in a holy manner. I'd say that command specifically was given to ensure that no one in Israel took advantage of their brother Israelite. Since Christians aren't a part of national Israel the command isn't technically a command for us. However, I would argue the spirit behind the command should be one that Christians should take seriously in how we live and treat others.

    If someone needs money, is a high risk, and can't get a loan elsewhere, how is a high rate loan a bad thing?

    If they didn't need the money, they wouldn't be asking nor accepting the loan.

    Many would argue that denying the loan on the basis that you have safer, lower yielding loans is wrong, too.

    meansonny

  • Haven't you ever heard the saying, "the only people who qualify for loans are the same people who do not need them."

    I'm assuming that principal is fundamentally wrong, too.

    meansonny

  • goodnews said...

    The law was given to a national Israel about 3,400 years ago as a rule to live by in Israel. That command was part of a plethora of commands given to Gods people in order to show them how to live in a holy manner. I'd say that command specifically was given to ensure that no one in Israel took advantage of their brother Israelite. Since Christians aren't a part of national Israel the command isn't technically a command for us. However, I would argue the spirit behind the command should be one that Christians should take seriously in how we live and treat others.

    Actually almost all of those laws were given to the isrealites because after 5 generations of bondage and slavery the isrealites were unable to live as a free peiple. Once free of Egyptian rule the isrealites needed a code of cinduct. people take tgem to literally. Know why pork is not koser? Becasue the newly freed isrialites did not know how to salt and preserve it properly and it made them sick. So one if moses laws was simply to call it unholy so that people would stop getting sick.

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  • meansonny said...

    If someone needs money, is a high risk, and can't get a loan elsewhere, how is a high rate loan a bad thing?

    If they didn't need the money, they wouldn't be asking nor accepting the loan.

    Many would argue that denying the loan on the basis that you have safer, lower yielding loans is wrong, too.

    sonny, I'm not trying to make an argument against good ole american capitalism even though I think there's a been a good bit of unethical fleecing of many Americans by greedy Financeers lately. America has become way too committed to hyper-consumerism while individuals are getting way too deep into debt. What God was apparently trying to accomplish in ancient Israel was a economically successful country where people didn't get fleeced. It sounds like God understands the ecomomic comings and goings pretty well. It wasn't socialism, but it wasn't the greedy side of capitalism either.

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  • AUVTM said...

    Actually almost all of those laws were given to the isrealites because after 5 generations of bondage and slavery the isrealites were unable to live as a free peiple. Once free of Egyptian rule the isrealites needed a code of cinduct. people take tgem to literally. Know why pork is not koser? Becasue the newly freed isrialites did not know how to salt and preserve it properly and it made them sick. So one if moses laws was simply to call it unholy so that people would stop getting sick.

    I would not disagree with this at all. Also, those same pigs were a lot more expensive to raise than other livestock.

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  • Definitely should be a maximum limit on the gap between interest paid and interest collected by any person who partakes in both.

    printsofPA

  • If usury is a sin then I am sinning against myself. Most any transaction I make when moving money from one account or making a big purchase by withdrawing from one account I pay myself interest.
    I am curious where this is in the new testament, because I would like to look more into it.

    This post was edited by SmithDawg48 on 5/17/2012 at 8:51 AM

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  • Found it..

    Love for Enemies

    27“But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    32“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ lend to ‘sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

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  • I usury is a sin then West Virginia is going to hell. wait, did they score again?

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  • Dawg E. Style said...

    I usury is a sin then West Virginia is going to hell. wait, did they score again?

    Grown ups are talking...... please try and keep up.

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  • AUVTM said...

    Grown ups are talking...... please try and keep up.

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  • Dawg E. Style said...

    I usury is a sin then West Virginia is going to hell. wait, did they score again?

    That is just damn funny.

    VTSmitty ●

  • Dawg E. Style said...

    I usury is a sin then West Virginia is going to hell. wait, did they score again?

    Now that's funny Style.

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  • goodnews said...

    Now that's funny Style.

    Shhh, I'm suppose to be quiet, grown up folks are talking

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  • Dawg E. Style said...

    Shhh, I'm suppose to be quiet, grown up folks are talking

    Ok then, I'll use my inside laugh.

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