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Jimbo Fisher

  • Well all that is true, FSU can play with anybody

    Man to man there isn't many teams more talented than FSU

    People seem to forget they have lost 3 senior all conference types and one of them an all american

    Still winning, FSU isn't great but nobody else is really either

    If Texas A&M can beat Bama in their house, then FSU could beat Bama as well

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    one more week..... one more week

    Who gives a shit about what Jimbo thinks of his own team or the stupid BCS

    All I can think about is Wilder making Elam his bitch.... you should focus on what matters like I do

    I haven't given a single thought to the BCS this season, its been nice outside of watching my squad need 4th quarters to put away 6 loss teams

    lol Wilder couldn't make a poodle his bitch let alone Matt Elam. Elam will destroy Wilder. Not even worried about that. It will be a great game though. Finally you guys haven't completely melt down by November and will make this game nationally relevant for the first time in forever

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Well all that is true, FSU can play with anybody

    Man to man there isn't many teams more talented than FSU

    People seem to forget they have lost 3 senior all conference types and one of them an all american

    Still winning, FSU isn't great but nobody else is really either

    If Texas A&M can beat Bama in their house, then FSU could beat Bama as well

    You always say FSU can play with anyone but when was the last time they proved it? Beating Clemson and losing to NC State doesn't qualify anyone to talk about beating Bama. You guys get a shot to jaw off in 2 weeks. I think you should wait til then.

    This post was edited by Slevin on 11/13/2012 at 12:40 AM

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Don't lose to North Carolina State and FSU is No. 1 in the country right now.

    I see what he's saying about the computers, but you don't deserve to play for it if you drop a game like that. The Noles have as much talent as anybody, too.

    We would be #4 if we had not lost and you missed his point

    The way we select the tops teams is broken... there has to be a better way

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  • Slevin said...

    lol Wilder couldn't make a poodle his bitch let alone Matt Elam. Elam will destroy Wilder. Not even worried about that. It will be a great game though. Finally you guys haven't completely melt down by November and will make this game nationally relevant for the first time in forever

    Ha Ha Ha says the Gator fan coming off a 7-6 season

    Matt Elam would get dominated by Wilder from a stiff arm, regular hit or the butt secks

    Elam is a straight queen compared to Wilder

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  • swizz said...

    We would be #4 if we had not lost and you missed his point

    The way we select the tops teams is broken... there has to be a better way

    Yeah, the part he messed up was by saying the coaches should do it then turning around and saying he would have his own team as the best one loss team

    That just proves to those who would argue that coaches would be biased, even if not true

    I don't know what would be the best answer, I just know I don't care anymore in terms of worrying about it

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  • Slevin said...

    Is that all you can contribute? Why even post? All I'm trying to do is start a discussion

    Yup you mad

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  • bhiley77 said...

    I like how Jimbo says "and the playoff isn't going to solve it, either". Jeez man, just win more games. Thinking this guy will fit in perfectly at auburn.

    Actually Jimbo is on pace to win more games this year than he has in his first two years... talk about not paying attention

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  • bamabum5 said...

    Jimbo is bringing the lulz. Someone try and explain this:

    Fisher thinks the coaches' poll is the most accurate way to evaluate teams, suggesting his fellow coaches provide the most knowledge about how teams have actually performed and, he believes, would vote without bias.

    Fisher revealed that his own ballot in the coaches' poll, which he said he spends about two hours per week completing, includes Florida State at No. 4 behind only undefeated Kansas State, Oregon and Notre Dame.

    Asked if he believed the Seminoles were the best of the one-loss teams, including SEC leaders Alabama and Georgia, Fisher said, "I think we're as good as any of them."

    Why not... it is much better system then plugging in numbers and pressing enter to have a PCU spit out rankings...

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  • Slevin said...

    You always say FSU can play with anyone but when was the last time they proved it? Beating Clemson and losing to NC State doesn't qualify anyone to talk about beating Bama. You guys get a shot to jaw off in 2 weeks. I think you should wait til then.

    Oh the irony....

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  • Slevin said...
    so why not the head coach with the goofiest fuggin name in the game

    Dabo > Jimbo in goofiness.

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  • Yep. Beating Clemson >>> Beating Florida. My guess is Clemson would probably beat ULL 56-0 at home.

    Well, maybe not that bad, but I doubt they need a lucky ST play to win the game.

    LMAO at that game.

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  • swizz said...

    We would be #4 if we had not lost and you missed his point

    The way we select the tops teams is broken... there has to be a better way

    I think you are wrong. You'd be No. 1 or 2 because the humans would have you No. 1.

    And I don't think it's broken. I think if you have more than two unbeatens, strength of schedule has to factor in. The ACC is inexcusable this year. That's not FSU's fault, but there has to be a tiebreaker, right?

    This post was edited by JC Shurburtt on 11/13/2012 at 7:40 AM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Yeah, the part he messed up was by saying the coaches should do it then turning around and saying he would have his own team as the best one loss team

    That just proves to those who would argue that coaches would be biased, even if not true

    I don't know what would be the best answer, I just know I don't care anymore in terms of worrying about it

    Four team playoff is the way to go. I just don't think a coach that has that much talent at a program which desperately needs a breakthrough year and has the player to do it playing in the worst league among the AQs that goes on the road and musters only 16 points (his offense, remember) and loses to a mediocre N.C. State team has any room to gripe about anything.

    Losses happen. Upsets happen. It's football. But how many times as a program (not just the Fisher era) is this going to happen to Florida State? At some point it has to quit costing you.

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  • After all is said and done, the only positive that FSU can take from this is that maybe, just maybe, Jimbo has learned not to slow down when he thinks he has a team beat. I say score 70, and let people be mad.

    viningsnole

  • JC Shurburtt said...

    I think you are wrong. You'd be No. 1 or 2 because the humans would have you No. 1.

    And I don't think it's broken. I think if you have more than two unbeatens, strength of schedule has to factor in. The ACC is inexcusable this year. That's not FSU's fault, but there has to be a tiebreaker, right?

    He's not wrong. It's not the ACC so much as the Savannah St game. Playing that game, regardless of outcome, has a negative effect on the computer poll that would take a huge human element to outweigh. It's been postulated by some that have way more time to analyze this stuff than yours truly that had FSU just not played ANYBODY, they'd be better off.

    WVU kinda effed us.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Well all that is true, FSU can play with anybody

    Man to man there isn't many teams more talented than FSU

    People seem to forget they have lost 3 senior all conference types and one of them an all american

    Still winning, FSU isn't great but nobody else is really either

    If Texas A&M can beat Bama in their house, then FSU could beat Bama as well

    That's not my point. Jimbo goes on a rant suggesting the best way to determine the top teams is to let Coaches vote because they know the game and are unbiased...he then says he voted his own team #4 as the top 1 loss team which is showing bias. I'm sure Saban, Muschamp, Richt, and Dabo all rank their teams as the top 1 loss team as well.

    bamabum5

  • bhiley77 said...

    That was a dramatic missing of the point. You're not allowed to worry about the BCS picture when you can't beat the bottom half of your conference. That doesn't "pass the eye test", you see.

    Sigh... he isn't just speaking about FSU... he is speaking about the entire system... you guys are just seeing him as the FSU HC... see the difference... you said he needs to win more games, which he is... nothing to do with who FSU lost to... spin it however you want but he is onto something .. the computers has teams with 3, 4 and 5 losses ahead of teams with 1 loss... the coaches poll albeit can be biased at times is way more accurate then the computers..

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    Oh the irony....

    Irony? Do you even know what that word means? lol

    UF beat 3 teams currently in the top 10 of the BCS. I don't see how theres any irony in that.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Ha Ha Ha says the Gator fan coming off a 7-6 season

    Matt Elam would get dominated by Wilder from a stiff arm, regular hit or the butt secks

    Elam is a straight queen compared to Wilder

    ha ha ha coming from a nole fan of a team that has been irrelevant on a national level in over 10 years lol

    See, I can throw out some irrelevant fact as well Nova.

    Matt Elam was putting LSU players to sleep on the reg. He would straight up comatose Wilder. Wilder would shit his pants and quit football the second Elam lays the smacketh down on him.

    This post was edited by Slevin on 11/13/2012 at 10:17 AM

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Four team playoff is the way to go. I just don't think a coach that has that much talent at a program which desperately needs a breakthrough year and has the player to do it playing in the worst league among the AQs that goes on the road and musters only 16 points (his offense, remember) and loses to a mediocre N.C. State team has any room to gripe about anything.

    Losses happen. Upsets happen. It's football. But how many times as a program (not just the Fisher era) is this going to happen to Florida State? At some point it has to quit costing you.

    JC is on point in this thread.

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  • Slevin said...

    Irony? Do you even know what that word means? lol

    UF beat 3 teams currently in the top 10 of the BCS. I don't see how theres any irony in that.

    If you missed then I will just let it go...

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Actually you're the only person spinning this.

    Jimbo isn't making a large sweeping declaration about the state of college football.

    He's politicking for FSU to be able to play in the BCS championship game this year despite having lost to NC State.

    Very similar conversations are had with coaches of one-loss teams every single year.

    Thinking anything other then this is spin, sorry.

    I'm formatting my post NoVa style out of respect for FSU, btw.

    If that is how you are viewing it fine... but he mentions that no team with 1 loss should be ranked behind teams with 3 or more loses... it just so happens he is the HC for FSU but he is speaking for most HC out there...

    This post was edited by FSUgoNoles24 on 11/13/2012 at 11:25 AM

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Four team playoff is the way to go. I just don't think a coach that has that much talent at a program which desperately needs a breakthrough year and has the player to do it playing in the worst league among the AQs that goes on the road and musters only 16 points (his offense, remember) and loses to a mediocre N.C. State team has any room to gripe about anything.

    Losses happen. Upsets happen. It's football. But how many times as a program (not just the Fisher era) is this going to happen to Florida State? At some point it has to quit costing you.

    I agree on all points... sadly it was said by Fisher but this isn't something he alone is thinking. He just happen to speak out on it... it is what it is...

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    I think you are wrong. You'd be No. 1 or 2 because the humans would have you No. 1.

    And I don't think it's broken. I think if you have more than two unbeatens, strength of schedule has to factor in. The ACC is inexcusable this year. That's not FSU's fault, but there has to be a tiebreaker, right?

    We were #3 before we lost to nc state and we haven't done anything to justify jumping Oregon who was #2

    Obviously strenght of schedule has to be accounted for, but so does how well a team plays week in week out

    Uf has now struggled with two non bcs schools and their offense has looked like shit in most of there games, but all the computers see is the win... that should not be the only thing that matters

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