The Blue Board

Exactly, there is only one way. I know people do not like to hear that doing good all their lives will not get them in, but its the truth. And no one just goes in the ground, there is a fire that can't be quenched for people who do not admit, believe and confess.

Dude, turn him on.....no actually I did not say that.....but IF YOU WERE to end up watching him somehow you would likely be appalled within 15 minutes. I always thought he got a bad rap and then I listened to ONE sermon of his and almost threw my remote at my tv.

I figured he'd have to go at least 2-3 sermons to say something ridiculous but it's about every 20th sentence (to vaguely guess) between heretical statements.

Indeed, we all deserve an eternity in hell. However, our loving God sent his son to earth to save all of us from damnation if we but do the three previous things. Truly a divine story of love.

I haven't watched any of him. i will do that to see what I think of this guy.

He's not a Biblical preacher. He has no ability to articulate the faith upon questioning in interviews. I don't know his heart but, IMHO, he has no business behind a pulpit.

I dunno. I've listened to Joel a few times. Seems like a pretty good guy. Not a fan of the "health and wealth" ministry however.

I agree on all accounts. But, "good guy" isn't the only qualification for preaching.

gotta be doing something right to get all those folks to come to church esp in these days and times ..

Eh, I dunno if I agree with that. Paul (I think) said the time will come when men will not endure sound doctrine, but will demand instead to "have their ears tickled." He's doing something to get them to come to church alright, but it has more to do with his easy gospel than anything else. It's man-focused. How can YOU feel better, how can YOU overcome adversity, how can YOU have YOUR best life now etc

Brother. Turn your brain on. He's doing "Something right" is what this thread is all about. He preaches a "God is your buddy and wants you to prosper" message and people flock to hear it. His every teaching mocks God and magnifies man. Of course people want to hear it.

I really don't get how you aren't connecting the dots. His ministry is HUGE because it plays to the broken nature of man.

I dunno about all that, but my dad was a big fan of HIS dad's, who was actually an incredible preacher. It's astounding to see the differences. Guys like Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn are kind of a sore spot with me. I may not show them as much grace as I should at times. I try to be civil on the board but I've ripped them much harder in verbal conversations, right or not.

No you don't. You're just another person who has heard the one verse people use to try and get folks off their backs. Judging someone by their fruits in terms of whether you should trust them, spend time around them, etc is entirely Biblical. The Word says to not judge because in breaking one pen stroke of the law we have all broken the entire law so how can you judge someone SALVIFICALLY. God judges salvifically.

I am instructed to study the fruit of a man and determine whether he is those things I said above. Osteen's fruit is rotten.

He knows because Osteen has told us what is in his heart......Luk_6:45 " A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth the good. And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth the evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."

Pro_23:7 " for as he thinks in his heart, so is he;"