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Johnny Football stats vs LSU and UF.. Not Heisman Worthy

  • Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    This post was edited by Lesticals on 12/5/2012 at 1:00 PM

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  • Lesticals said...

    Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    Are you wanting to get booted from TeamSEC?

    dpfenny

  • Sam Montgomery thinks he deserves it. Thoughts on that? coffee

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  • dpfenny said...

    Are you wanting to get booted from TeamSEC?

    Haha.. Not flaming at all.. I mean, he literally beat ONE good team, look at all the scrubs they beat.. And lost to the other good teams.

    Everyone is nuts for wanting to give him the Heisman for ONE friggin' game.

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  • You should check Colin Klein's stats in the one game he faced the best defense on their schedule and then the game he faced the worst team on their schedule. Yikes. It's bad.

    Same with Braxton Miller and others etc.

    It's just not a very good Heisman year IYAM.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    You should check Colin Klein's stats in the one game he faced the best defense on their schedule and then the game he faced the worst team on their schedule. Yikes. It's bad.

    Same with Braxton Miller and others etc.

    It's just not a very good Heisman year IYAM.

    I would give it to Te'o.. He has been the BEST player in CFB this season and his Heisman moment was that INT against OU.

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  • Lesticals said...

    I would give it to Te'o.. He has been the BEST player in CFB this season and his Heisman moment was that INT against OU.

    ROFL...his stats are pretty average. If he was on any other team, he wouldn't even be in the discussion.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    ROFL...his stats are pretty average. If he was on any other team, he wouldn't even be in the discussion.

    You're forgetting that manti is the HEART AND SOUL of that defense.

    The stats are only relevant when talking about Johnny.

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  • Lesticals said...

    I would give it to Te'o.. He has been the BEST player in CFB this season and his Heisman moment was that INT against OU.

    thanks Lesticals clap

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  • I agree with the assessment on Johnny football. Why did Klein get knocked down so much when he lost 1 game, but Manziel lost 2. His stats are great, but he lost twice. Te'o has been the heart and soul of the best scoring defense in the country. So many goalline stands this year. 7 INTs, second in the country. 103 tackles. Not a lot of TFL, but that isn't how he was used on his team. He has been one of the best players in the country, but the MOST consistent of the Heisman finalists. Bring it home Manti.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    ROFL...his stats are pretty average. If he was on any other team, he wouldn't even be in the discussion.

    Well duh.. It usually goes to the best player on the best team.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Well duh.. It usually goes to the best player on the best team.

    they don't wanna hear that

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  • D-Mo said...

    I agree with the assessment on Johnny football. Why did Klein get knocked down so much when he lost 1 game, but Manziel lost 2. His stats are great, but he lost twice. Te'o has been the heart and soul of the best scoring defense in the country. So many goalline stands this year. 7 INTs, second in the country. 103 tackles. Not a lot of TFL, but that isn't how he was used on his team. He has been one of the best players in the country, but the MOST consistent of the Heisman finalists. Bring it home Manti.

    Because he lost to two Top 10 teams close who also happen to be the best in the country in almost every statistical defensive category, not get blown out by a mediocre 7-5 team that is also one of the worst defenses in the country (he threw THREE picks against). That's the big difference.

    Teo is average or worse in many defensive statistics and his one bright spot, interceptions, aren't really that impressive if you watched him. A few were tip balls and a couple were just terrible reads by the QB trying to pass across the middle with T'eo just being in position. It's pretty easy to see that he is a product of being a ND player.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Well duh.. It usually goes to the best player on the best team.

    Well, looking at projections, I dont think it will this year and if he does somehow win it, people will know on 1/7/13 that it wasnt true anyways.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Because he lost to two Top 10 teams close who also happen to be the best in the country in almost every statistical defensive category, not get blown out by a mediocre 7-5 team that is also one of the worst defenses in the country (he threw THREE picks against). That's the big difference.

    Teo is average or worse in many defensive statistics and his one bright spot, interceptions, aren't really that impressive if you watched him. A few were tip balls and a couple were just terrible reads by the QB trying to pass across the middle with T'eo just being in position. It's pretty easy to see that he is a product of being a ND player.

    so are you calling Te'o an average player?

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  • Lesticals said...

    Well duh.. It usually goes to the best player on the best team.

    RG3 played on a 4 loss Baylor team, Tebow won it with 3 losses, I could go on and on.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    Couldn't agree more, the choices each year seem to get weaker and make less sense. The Heisman isn't what it used to be thanks to popularity and the media(ESPN).

    BaintheA

  • Well.. I don't think beating ONE good team the entire year is worthy of the Heisman.. And losing to the other 2 good teams at home.

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    so are you calling Te'o an average player?

    Nope. He's a great MLB talent on a great defense that has had an average year production-wise.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Nope. He's a great MLB talent on a great defense that has had an average year production-wise.

    dp my bad

    This post was edited by Lesticals on 12/5/2012 at 1:39 PM

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  • Lesticals said...

    Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    A little late to the party but nobody has come close and the NCAA and BCS and whoever is anybody in the college football world wants to see a freshmen win it! I also would like to see this young man win it, look at your guys defense man, Lsu's D is just nasty but somehow he pulled the miracle vs Bama, a special guy if you ask me.
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  • Lesticals said...

    Well.. I don't think beating ONE good team the entire year is worthy of the Heisman.. And losing to the other 2 good teams at home.

    Klein's big wins besides Oklahoma?
    T'eo's big wins besides Oklahoma?
    Miller's big win?
    Lee's big win?

    Anybody? Beuhler? Beuhler?

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    He's a great MLB talent on a great defense

    thanks

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  • datcanes305 said...

    A little late to the party but nobody has come close and the NCAA and BCS and whoever is anybody in the college football world wants to see a freshmen win it! I also would like to see this young man win it, look at your guys defense man, Lsu's D is just nasty but somehow he pulled the miracle vs Bama, a special guy if you ask me. s

    Yeah I mean, it's all opinion.. I'm not here to flame or trash the kid because he's truly a special player.. He just didn't do enough for me this season to win the Heisman.. 1 good win isn't enough.. So, just my opinion and if people think he's deserving, I won't complain.. I just don't think he did enough to win that award.. But it's a crappy list of finalists.

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    RG3 played on a 4 loss Baylor team, Tebow won it with 3 losses, I could go on and on.

    Exactly, kid is real nice with it, people will try to discredit his effort, but he is a beast. I bet you any given coach in the country would LOVE to have him at his starting QB.

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