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Johnny Football stats vs LSU and UF.. Not Heisman Worthy

  • Lesticals said...

    Well.. I don't think beating ONE good team the entire year is worthy of the Heisman.. And losing to the other 2 good teams at home.

    What exactly did RG3 do last year? He put up good stat, lost 4 games and got blown out multiple times. GTFO with Manziel doesn't deserve it. 4,600 yards and 43 TD's says otherwise, even in our two losses, he put us in a position to win.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Klein's big wins besides Oklahoma? T'eo's big wins besides Oklahoma? Miller's big win? Lee's big win?

    Anybody? Beuhler? Beuhler?

    USC, Stanford and OU are all 10 x better than:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou...

    And it's not even close!

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  • Lesticals said...

    Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    Give me a f'ing break Lesticles. He put up more yards on LSU than they had allowed all year. He had A&M in a position to win that game, but our FG kicker is garbage. One of the int's was Mike Evan's fault, not Johnny's. Over three hundred yards of offense against that defense. Here is why Johnny should win:

    4600 yards of total offense: More than Cam Newton or Tim Tebow, in two fewer games
    First freshman, and fifth player ever, to throw for 3k and run for 1k, in two fewer games than anyone else
    Nine time SEC freshman player of the week, out of twelve weeks
    Three time AT&T/ESPN All American player of the week
    Shattered Archie Manning's single game yardage record that stood for 40+ years

    Want me to keep going?

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    What exactly did RG3 do last year? He put up good stat, lost 4 games and got blown out multiple times. GTFO with Manziel doesn't deserve it. 4,600 yards and 43 TD's says otherwise, even in our two losses, he put us in a position to win.

    Lol, he put up those stats against:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou

    GMAFB

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  • USMCAG said...

    Give me a f'ing break Lesticles. He put up more yards on LSU than they had allowed all year. He had A&M in a position to win that game, but our FG kicker is garbage. One of the int's was Mike Evan's fault, not Johnny's. Over three hundred yards of offense against that defense. Here is why Johnny should win:

    4600 yards of total offense: More than Cam Newton or Tim Tebow, in two fewer games First freshman, and fifth player ever, to throw for 3k and run for 1k, in two fewer games than anyone else Nine time SEC freshman player of the week, out of twelve weeks Three time AT&T/ESPN All American player of the week Shattered Archie Manning's single game yardage record that stood for 40+ years

    Want me to keep going?

    Not arguing with an Aggie on this.. He threw 3 INTS and accounted for.. ZERO TD's and lost at home.

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  • Anyways, yall have fun ITT.. I'm out, people get WAY to butthurt if someone says what they don't like to hear.. Later fellas!

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  • Lesticals said...

    USC, Stanford and OU are all 10 x better than:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou...

    And it's not even close!

    Disagree on 7-5 USC as a quality win but if you're going to look at the wins then why not look at the stats in those wins as well. Clearly, Manziel made a bigger impact on the game then Teo did.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Give me a f'ing break Lesticles. He put up more yards on LSU than they had allowed all year. He had A&M in a position to win that game, but our FG kicker is garbage. One of the int's was Mike Evan's fault, not Johnny's. Over three hundred yards of offense against that defense. Here is why Johnny should win:

    4600 yards of total offense: More than Cam Newton or Tim Tebow, in two fewer games First freshman, and fifth player ever, to throw for 3k and run for 1k, in two fewer games than anyone else Nine time SEC freshman player of the week, out of twelve weeks Three time AT&T/ESPN All American player of the week Shattered Archie Manning's single game yardage record that stood for 40+ years

    Want me to keep going?

    Listen man is ok if not everyone agree but I just want you to know that I'm pulling for Johnny Football to win it! Good luck out there

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  • Lesticals said...

    USC, Stanford and OU are all 10 x better than:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou...

    And it's not even close!

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  • Lesticals said...

    Lol, he put up those stats against:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou

    GMAFB

    RG3 did it against who exactly?

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  • Lesticals said...

    USC, Stanford and OU are all 10 x better than:

    LA Tech SMU South Carolina State Arkansas Ole MIss Auburn Miss State Sam Houston State Mizzou...

    And it's not even close!

    I'll give you Stanford, but GTFO with USC.

    By the way, they should have lost that Stanford game on a play that could have been stopped by Teo. Just sayin.

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  • Teo shouldn't win if Johnny isn't in the discussion

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  • Lesticals said...

    Not arguing with an Aggie on this.. He threw 3 INTS and accounted for.. ZERO TD's and lost at home.

    Klein threw three int's against the worst defense in fbs, against an unranked team.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Anyways, yall have fun ITT.. I'm out, people get WAY to butthurt if someone says what they don't like to hear.. Later fellas!

    Butthurt? You're better than that.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I'll give you Stanford, but GTFO with USC.

    By the way, they should have lost that Stanford game on a play that could have been stopped by Teo. Just sayin.

    ND almost lost to Pittsburgh, and Te'o only had 3 tackles, so he should be disqualified.

    This post was edited by USMCAG on 12/5/2012 at 1:53 PM

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  • USMCAG said...

    ND almost lost to Pittsburgh, so he should be disqualified.

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    12-0

    clap Congrats.........

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I'll give you Stanford, but GTFO with USC.

    By the way, they should have lost that Stanford game on a play that could have been stopped by Teo. Just sayin.

    This apparent TD that you people keep saying happened would have only TIED the game. As it turns out, guy's forward progress was stopped, no TD, and I do believe Te'o was right there in the middle of the action. Just sayin.

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    12-0

    I wasn't trying to insult you, I was using his same dumb theory.

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  • I am an Aggie, but I would just ask if you think Johnny's stats are inflated for some reason or not against good competition or 2 bad games or whatever reason, is that enough to outweigh what he has done, while breaking records the whole season? He played some down teams, but how was that his fault? He went out and went undefeated on the road in the SEC, beat Ole Miss after our defense let them back in the game, same with La Tech, and game out blazing and never gave other teams a chance, like Miss State, Arky, Mizzou, Bama (even though he had to fight to the end here). He also sat out over 2 games throughout the season by blowing out teams early. Then there is the value to a team. Think about how much value he had to A&M. Without him, we are likely mediocre and 6-6 or 7-5, but he brought out the emotion and got every player to buy into a freshman QB leading his team through this season, and came out with a 10 win season.

    If you still want to look as stats, Johnny had 9 less TD's than Teo did solo tackles (43 and 52 respectively). It is hard to compare defensive player to an offensive player, but Johnny is as much the heart of A&M team as Te'o is to Notre Dame IMO. And that is with giving out RB's 15 TD's within the opponents 5 yard line that he could have easily run in himself but I won't go there.

    As far as Klein goes, come on now, it is easy to compare QB's, and he had 6 games (half his schedule) where he threw for less than 200 yards and 3 100 yard rushing games. Johnny has less than 200 yards passing in 3 games (one where he only played have a game) and 6 100 yard rushing games.

    I think Klein and Te'o are great players and not taking anything away from them, only presenting stats to make a case for him and while he may not be an ideal candidate with a couple blemishes on his record, what do the other finalists or anyone have that makes them more qualified or deserving than Manziel?

    This post was edited by ChallengerAg on 12/5/2012 at 2:14 PM

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  • SimplyComplex said...

    clap Congrats.........

    feels good, no lie.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Against LSU:

    29/56, 276 yds, 0 TD's, 3 INTS.... 17 rushes for 27 yards

    Against UF:

    23/30, 173 yds, 0 TD's, 0 INTS...17 carries, 60 yards, 1 TD

    So other than the Bama game (which Mett had a career game against a week or 2 prior), why should he win the heisman other than his flashy play and that 1 big win?

    No flame, serious question..

    Teams he beat:

    LA Tech
    SMU
    South Carolina State
    Arkansas
    Ole MIss
    Auburn
    Miss State
    Sam Houston State
    Mizzou

    So TAMU only played 3 good teams, and he lost to 2 of them, I mean, they beat a BUNCH of scrubs.. Not Heisman worthy at all to me... But the ESPN hype machine will do this.

    I've seen where 4 Oklahoma journalist, that voted, made this same argument and that's why they all voted for Manti..

    This post was edited by star69 on 12/5/2012 at 2:15 PM

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    feels good, no lie.

    Did you see what I wrote? I wasn't downplaying ND or Manti, I was using the same argument that Lesticals was, which is dumb.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Did you see what I wrote? I wasn't downplaying ND or Manti, I was using the same argument that Lesticals was, which is dumb.

    I did see what you wrote cheers

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  • irishyoung420 said...

    I did see what you wrote cheers

    I'm ready for Saturday so this sh*t will be over.

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