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JJ wasn't that bad, IMO. He had his moments. Consistancy was the problem for both him and Lee. Lee for the most part looked great against everyone except for his games against Alabama and that defense has made a lot of QB's look bad. LSU's problem and has been since Miles has been there is a lack of imagination on offense. They have been able to physically dominate most teams except for one and the defense has been good enough to keep them in every game since he has been there for the most part. WIth the receivers that they have had in recent years, there is no reason they shouldn't have been able to get the ball down the field or at least in their hand with a chance to make a play.

Saban is guilty of this at times as well. When your defense is that good, sometimes you tend to just put the game in their hands. That will win you most games, but occassionally you have to open it up and let it fly.

Sometimes, like it JJ's case, when your coaches only rely on the defense, it hurts your confidence and then when you are needed to make plays, sometimes it's not there or you can press too much.

Just that one throw by JJ in the Natty where he could easily run for the first but threw a retarded a pick was the icing that he sucked for me.

Either way an elite program like LSU shouldn't ever have to choose between two QB's that bad.

Even when Bama is relying on their defense the QB is usually still capable. LSU's was not for the most part. Plus Les offense was terrible was is it pro style, spread option? Like 5 years into your tenure you should have some consistency IMO.

Your tellen me

He was ranked 315 going into the combine and he left at the same spot, so really it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. He's not a good quarterback, even by the college rankings- what makes anyone think he'll even be good enough to be a 3rd string QB at the NFL? He's a prime example of someone who has exceptional athletic talent that can't translate into success under center, specifically at the NFL level.

True. JJ was invited to show his athletic ability IMO. He is a good athlete that could have a future at WR or a TE/H back position.

Big difference.

SEC defense.

Nick Foles looked like a Heisman candidate in the PAC12, as did Masoli until he transferred to the SEC.

I know AU doesn't have one of those defenses, but most of the rest of us do.

Oregon may have had a better QB but LSU had a better overall team, no doubt about that. Auburn got the better end of that deal when comparing NC opponents. I'd rather play Oregon than LSU any day of the week.

Jefferson was inconsistent but played pretty well against us in his career. Had the lead until he got hurt in 09, beat us in 10, came in and led LSU to a win after Lee threw 2 picks last year...just played extremely awful in the title game but so did LSU's entire team.

Shoeless you kill me with your lack of quote while agreeing man. I like you man, but your crazy, your crazy.

EDIT: I was going for Old School Will Ferrell FYI.

no just saying that LSU beat the crap out of alot of pretty good team last year with Jefferson at QB and they won b/c he could make things happen with how athletic he was BUT againest Alabama's Def - in both games he didnt play well . They kept him the pocket and contained him really well and forced him to try and beat them by throwing the ball . If Al hadnt missed all those kicks in the first game i think they could have won that game and they totally controlled jeffereson in the 2nd game . Dont mean to agree with everyone all the time but alot of stuff i do agree with just b/c i watch the games and try and keep up with everything as much as possible . Not an expert by any means and dont like to get in shitting matches about crap ...when UT starts playing better and making it a game againest some of your bozo teams ..hell coming to breakfast but for now not so much

And 2010 UO's defense wasn't even in the same stratosphere as 2011 LSU's defense.

My point is that LSU was a better overall team than Oregon. I realize 2010 Oregon was slightly different from 2011 Oregon but they were very similar in terms of talent. Both won the conference and went to BCS bowls. LSU dismantled Oregon in Dallas. It was 40-20 before Oregon added a garbage time TD with 13 seconds left in the game.

Oregon was a very good team in 2010 and in 2011 but 2011 LSU was a great team. I guess people like to forget that LSU was a great team in 2011 because of their title game performance but they were being talked about as one of the greatest teams of all time based on their resume before NOLA. They beat the shit out of the Pac 12 and Rose Bowl champ on a neutral field, beat the shit out of the Big East and Orange Bowl champ by 26 points on their home field, beat the shit out of top 5 Arkansas by 24 points, beat the shit out of East Division champ UGA by 32 points and beat the National Champs on their home field.

2011 LSU was better than 2010 Oregon. That's my point.