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Judge sentences teen to attend church for 10 years

  • http://www.examiner.com/article/judge-sentences-teen-to-attend-church-for-10-years-after-manslaughter-conviction

    dpfenny ●

  • Judge going too far.

    Michmania ●

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  • Michmania said...

    Judge going too far.

    How so?

    dpfenny ●

  • Michmania said...

    Judge going too far.

    lol

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    GONIG BUCK

  • So much for separation of church and state.

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    CMXI ●

  • Not legal.

    This post was edited by NJBonyata on 11/26/2012 at 12:30 AM

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    Bababooey!

    NJBonyata ●

  • Wish I would have had the fvcking option. I would have sang my ass off in the pulpit.

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    RATT

  • Separation of church and state.

    Michmania ●

  • Are people actually saying that this judge did something wrong here?

    I'm sure that the damn parents and the kid agreed on it. Maybe the kid had good grades and going to juvenile would have completely fvcked that up for him. Like I said, I would have agreed to 10 years of church on Sundays rather than having to go to prison for a little over 4 years.

    I was actually out of high school and in college when I went, but at least I had the opportunity to go back to college. You don't get even the opportunity of sholarships to college if you don't get a high school degree because you got booted for having to go to juvenile.

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    RATT

  • RATT said...

    Are people actually saying that this judge did something wrong here?

    I'm sure that the damn parents and the kid agreed on it. Maybe the kid had good grades and going to juvenile would have completely fvcked that up for him. Like I said, I would have agreed to 10 years of church on Sundays rather than having to go to prison for a little over 4 years.

    I was actually out of high school and in college when I went, but at least I had the opportunity to go back to college. You don't get even the opportunity of sholarships to college if you don't get a high school degree because you got booted for having to go to juvenile.

    Unless this was part of a negotiated plea agreement (which it wasn't) then yes, the judge did something wrong.

    While I'm not familiar with Oklahoma statutes, it's ridiculous that simply not specifying which church the teenager must attend creates a legal loophole. No matter how you slice it, this is a state actor using the power of the state to force religion on someone. The United States has a major problem with people attempting to blur the separation between church and state, and the last thing the justice system needs is activist judges forcing religion on defendants.

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    CMXI ●

  • I think it's a great idea. Let me see here. If I'm a judge who has the choice to send a 17 year old to either prison (where he'll become some burly dude's boyfriend, as well as a hardened and probably paranoid man after living a live-to-survive lifestyle every day in prison) or let him spend 1 HOUR of 1 day a week at a place where people will greet him with smiles and friendly handshakes, where he'll receive REAL rehabilitation (if it sinks in, he'll strive to be a better person as opposed to living a prison lifestyle which just makes most people angry and paranoid). I think it's a great rehabilitation for the kid. I know this idea angers plenty of people, but odds are better that he'll get out of church with a little bit more focus on bettering himself than if he went to prison.

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  • CMXI said...

    Unless this was part of a negotiated plea agreement (which it wasn't) then yes, the judge did something wrong.

    While I'm not familiar with Oklahoma statutes, it's ridiculous that simply not specifying which church the teenager must attend creates a legal loophole. No matter how you slice it, this is a state actor using the power of the state to force religion on someone. The United States has a major problem with people attempting to blur the separation between church and state, and the last thing the justice system needs is activist judges forcing religion on defendants.

    LOL what part of you thinks this wasn't a plea bargain? Explain.

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  • CMXI said...

    Unless this was part of a negotiated plea agreement (which it wasn't) then yes, the judge did something wrong.

    While I'm not familiar with Oklahoma statutes, it's ridiculous that simply not specifying which church the teenager must attend creates a legal loophole. No matter how you slice it, this is a state actor using the power of the state to force religion on someone. The United States has a major problem with people attempting to blur the separation between church and state, and the last thing the justice system needs is activist judges forcing religion on defendants.

    *note to self: never hire attorney CMXI to negotiate my plea deal. He doesn't know what one is.

    WRobins

  • CMXI said...

    Unless this was part of a negotiated plea agreement (which it wasn't) then yes, the judge did something wrong.

    While I'm not familiar with Oklahoma statutes, it's ridiculous that simply not specifying which church the teenager must attend creates a legal loophole. No matter how you slice it, this is a state actor using the power of the state to force religion on someone. The United States has a major problem with people attempting to blur the separation between church and state, and the last thing the justice system needs is activist judges forcing religion on defendants.

    So it would have been better to send him to prison and waste federal or state money?

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    DrStache ●

  • CMXI said...

    Unless this was part of a negotiated plea agreement (which it wasn't) then yes, the judge did something wrong.

    While I'm not familiar with Oklahoma statutes, it's ridiculous that simply not specifying which church the teenager must attend creates a legal loophole. No matter how you slice it, this is a state actor using the power of the state to force religion on someone. The United States has a major problem with people attempting to blur the separation between church and state, and the last thing the justice system needs is activist judges forcing religion on defendants.

    So it would have been better to send him to prison and waste federal or state money?

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    DrStache ●

  • Michmania said...

    Separation of church and state.

    Separation of church and state is not in the constitution. I am assuming you are trying to make the claim that the sentence violates the kids 1st amendment rights? IF so, how?

    dpfenny ●

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