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  • Action Figure said...

    A top five defense and a WR core that's deeper and supposedly more talented than SC's is all you need to go undefeated in the ACC, which would basically make FSU a shoe in for the MNC. Unless of course FSU does what they've basically been doing the several years, underachieve.

    I agree with that, I thought we should have gone unbeaten last year in terms of conference play but injuries and Trick Daddy killed us

    We should be better equipped to handle the injuries this time around

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    I agree with that, I thought we should have gone unbeaten last year in terms of conference play but injuries and Trick Daddy killed us

    We should be better equipped to handle the injuries this time around

    Right, so like I said, FSU should be a shoe in for the MNC this year and Greene should win the Belitnikoff, or at least be a finalist for it.

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    What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.

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  • Action Figure said...

    Right, so like I said, FSU should be a shoe in for the MNC this year and Greene should win the Belitnikoff, or at least be a finalist for it.

    Yes, me saying we should win the ACC and be unbeaten in conference play = you hearing we should win it all with no losses to anybody and win the MNC

    that makes perfect sense going by your history as a poster

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  • LOL at the USC fans for falling for this troll.....

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Oh and isn't Farmer listed as a RB too ?

    Can i go back and add in all of FSU's RB's as well ? roflmao

    Farmer is a WR.

    I thought you said more talented?

    So according to this site, or Rivals for guys who aren't rated on this site, your WR's average a 114 national ranking out of HS.

    USC's average a 72.

    Rashad Greene + Rodney Smith in 13 games = 74 rec for 1157 yards and 11 td's

    Marquise Lee = 73 rec for 1143 yards and 11 td's

    Alonzo Harris

  • squats24 1.0 said...

    LOL at the USC fans for falling for this troll.....

    What troll ? they are easy though

    I think its more than fair to say as a WR Greene is nearly an identical prospect

    Nobody has yet to show me the difference other than a sophomore seasons stats that Greene hasn't even played yet

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Farmer is a WR.

    I thought you said more talented?

    So according to this site, or Rivals for guys who aren't rated on this site, your WR's average a 114 national ranking out of HS.

    USC's average a 72.

    Rashad Greene + Rodney Smith in 13 games = 74 rec for 1157 yards and 11 td's

    Marquise Lee = 73 rec for 1143 yards and 11 td's

    More talent, not more talented

    Clearly your top 2 guys are better than anybody we have pretty much ( outside of Benjamin and Greene who are the only two who really measure up and not in terms of production )

    Surely you have the best and most productive duo for now

    You have less kids, of course you average out better

    Its hard to argue FSU's doesn't have more options at WR though, we have more size, speed and depth

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 4/20/2012 at 1:57 PM

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  • squats24 1.0 said...

    LOL at the USC fans for falling for this troll.....

    lol

    You're not telling us nothing new. He's been a clown.

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    What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.

    Action Figure

  • Action Figure said...

    lol

    You're not telling us nothing new. He's been a clown.

    He is laughing at you

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    More talent, not more talented

    Clearly your top 2 guys are better than anybody we have pretty much ( outside of Benjamin and Greene who are the only two who really measure up and not in terms of production )

    Surely you have the best and most productive duo for now

    You have less kids, of course you average out better

    Its hard to argue FSU's doesn't have more options at WR though, we have more size, speed and depth

    Meh, I'd take quality over quantity but to each his own.

    I averaged out 7 FSU and 7 USC, your other two guys weren't ranked by any recruiting service.

    I'd debate you having speed (Farmer, Woods, and Lee are big-time track guys) and depth, but size you def got the edge. Once you get past the 7th guy on the squad it doesn't matter IMO.

    Alonzo Harris

  • Action Figure said...

    lol

    You're not telling us nothing new. He's been a clown.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Yes, me saying we should win the ACC and be unbeaten in conference play = you hearing we should win it all with no losses to anybody and win the MNC

    that makes perfect sense going by your history as a poster

    If FSU goes undefeated in conference play, they would most likely play for a MNC. Unless they somehow lose to Murray State, Savannah State, or USF, which would pretty much be impossible with their defense and arguably the best WR in college football, Rashad Greene.

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  • Action Figure said...

    If FSU goes undefeated in conference play, they would most likely play for a MNC. Unless they somehow lose to Murray State, Savannah State, or USF, which would pretty much be impossible with their defense and arguably the best WR in college football, Rashad Greene.

    Okay, no shit

    How does it make us a lock to win that game though ? riddle me that

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  • I only half believe that NoVa is actually serious with this Greene/Woods argument, but I have this thread stickied so we can all laugh in 3yrs after Woods has gone in the 1st round and Greene is a mid-rounder. Is the NFL worried about who has the better QB or more talent around them? I'd be willing to do a long-term sig bet that 3 current USC WRs will go before any current FSU WR in the draft.

    You may not have a clue about EBP or logic, but damn are you consistent with your flip-flopping and deflection. Nice work.

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    Meh, I'd take quality over quantity but to each his own.

    I averaged out 7 FSU and 7 USC, your other two guys weren't ranked by any recruiting service.

    I'd debate you having speed (Farmer, Woods, and Lee are big-time track guys) and depth, but size you def got the edge. Once you get past the 7th guy on the squad it doesn't matter IMO.

    Who said we lack quality ?

    Who wasn't ranked by any service ? you clearly just made that up

    Bracy is faster than everybody you have, period

    That alone gives us the speed title and once his cousin Whitfield joins it will really be no contest

    Never said you were slow, I said FSU is faster... cause we are plain and simple

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  • stoptothink said...

    I only half believe that NoVa is actually serious with this Greene/Woods argument, but I have this thread stickied so we can all laugh in 3yrs after Woods has gone in the 1st round and Greene is a mid-rounder. Is the NFL worried about who has the better QB or more talent around them? I'd be willing to do a long-term sig bet that 3 current USC WRs will go before any current FSU WR in the draft.

    You may not have a clue about EBP or logic, but damn are you consistent with your flip-flopping and deflection. Nice work.

    lol I hope you do save it thanks

    Now go back to being a UCLA fan

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  • stoptothink said...

    I only half believe that NoVa is actually serious with this Greene/Woods argument, but I have this thread stickied so we can all laugh in 3yrs after Woods has gone in the 1st round and Greene is a mid-rounder. Is the NFL worried about who has the better QB or more talent around them? I'd be willing to do a long-term sig bet that 3 current USC WRs will go before any current FSU WR in the draft.

    You may not have a clue about EBP or logic, but damn are you consistent with your flip-flopping and deflection. Nice work.

    And yeah Im sure the NFL won't be all over a 6'6" 235 pounder who runs a 4.4

    Benjamin is a better NFL prospect than anybody USC has, certainly more interesting than your standard 6 foot 190 kid who grows on trees all over the country

    And yes NFL scouts certainly pay attention to a WR who plays with a great QB, if you don't know that you are much dumber than I thought

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 4/20/2012 at 2:11 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Okay, no shit

    How does it make us a lock to win that game though ? riddle me that

    Keep up, bozo. I never said FSU would win anything. I said they'd basically be a shoe in to play for the MNC. Go back and re-read, with your backpedaling ass.

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    What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Who said we lack quality ?

    Who wasn't ranked by any service ? you clearly just made that up

    Bracy is faster than everybody you have, period

    That alone gives us the speed title and once his cousin Whitfield joins it will really be no contest

    Never said you were slow, I said FSU is faster... cause we are plain and simple

    I'm not saying you lack quality, just that USC has better quality versus your better quantity.

    Bracy is faster than what we have, but I'd bet Farmer, Lee, and Woods would be faster than anyone on your squad sans Bracy.

    Jarred Haggins and Greg Dent aren't nationally rated on any site I could find.

    I'd throw Farmer as a better NFL prospect at 6'2 210 4.3-4.4

    Alonzo Harris

  • Action Figure said...

    Keep up, bozo. I never said FSU would win anything. I said they'd basically be a shoe in to play for the MNC. Go back and re-read, with your backpedaling ass.

    Bozo ? jesus you are homo lol

    Re-read what ? you said we would win or Im sorry " should " win the national title

    I said we should go unbeaten in the ACC, the fact you are harping on this shows how badly you just want to ignore the rest of this thread

    Backpedaling ? on what, all you do is say the same things over and over again

    We all realize that if FSU wins every game they would be a shoe in to play for it all, that isn't the discussion here

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  • Alonzo Harris said...

    I'm not saying you lack quality, just that USC has better quality versus your better quantity.

    Bracy is faster than what we have, but I'd bet Farmer, Lee, and Woods would be faster than anyone on your squad sans Bracy.

    Jarred Haggins and Greg Dent aren't nationally rated on any site I could find.

    I'd throw Farmer as a better NFL prospect at 6'2 210 4.3-4.4

    Lulz how many sites did you check ? one ?

    And we have other burners too but I don't even care, this isn't the argument Im interested in

    Farmer as a better NFL prospect than who ? Benjamin ? lmao if so, Benjamin is unlike anything we have really seen before

    Farmer not so much

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Benjamin is unlike anything we have really seen before

    Yes, a 23yr old RS-freshman.

    stoptothink

  • stoptothink said...

    Yes, a 23yr old RS-freshman.

    21 years old but yeah, you just wanted to show how much you don't know again so congrats

    We also have never seen somebody his size play WR outside of Calvin Johnson who Kelvin is even bigger than

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Bozo ? jesus you are homo lol

    Re-read what ? you said we would win or Im sorry " should " win the national title

    I said we should go unbeaten in the ACC, the fact you are harping on this shows how badly you just want to ignore the rest of this thread

    Backpedaling ? on what, all you do is say the same things over and over again

    We all realize that if FSU wins every game they would be a shoe in to play for it all, that isn't the discussion here

    You're corny, you stay backpedaling, and now you're making shit up. When did I say FSU "should win the national title"? I said they should be a shoe in for the MNC game. Like I said, keep up.

    This is nothing new, though. FSU was a pre season top five squad last year, Manuel was a preseason Heisman candidate, and their defense was suppose to be the goods. All of that, and they still shit the bed something serious when it really mattered.

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    What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Lulz how many sites did you check ? one ?

    And we have other burners too but I don't even care, this isn't the argument Im interested in

    Farmer as a better NFL prospect than who ? Benjamin ? lmao if so, Benjamin is unlike anything we have really seen before

    Farmer not so much

    We had a guy just like Benjamin. David Ausberry, didn't do s**t.

    Alonzo Harris