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Action Figure said...
How did Bush make it too easy to ignore? Let me guess, his basic 10 year old $10,000 Impala or the middle class home his fam was staying in over 100 miles from SC's campus?
At the end of the day, SC got hit with SMU like snactions (minus the TV ban) because they should have known. I mean, Bama received less for the Albert Means situation. , ridiculous.
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I don't know why your trying to ge all pissy with me. I've actually been saying good things about your program. I didn't place the sanctions on your fvcking program so you need to take you anger out on the NCAA, not me. The fact of the matter is that the middle class home that his fam was staying in over 100 miles from campus was paid for by an agent and not his middle aged family. There are emails between the family and the agent that have been shown.
I also said that I didn't believe that USC or any of it's boosters paid him persay but that I believed they turned a blind eye. I do not hate USC for it and think that ALL major programs have some form of pay for play system going on in one way or another. Bush pissed off that agent by not doing what he promised to do by signing with another agent and not paying him back for his expenses.
Albert Means was actually innocent in his ordeal. The problem with Albert Means was that a booster paid his high school coach to get his signature, which pissed off Means assistant coach because he didn't get paid as well, and shit hit the fan. Alabama got what they deserved and all of us admit it at this point. USC getting shitty at other fanbases for saying that they believe USC knew SOMETHING is ridiculous. You can hate on the NCAA all you want but it wasn't our fanbases that brought down the sanctions.
I have also said that I think the difference in the USC sanctions compared to Ohio State's sanctions are a joke. I think USC should have gotten less and Ohio State should have gotten more.
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R.A.T.T. said...
I don't know why your trying to ge all pissy with me. I've actually been saying good things about your program. I didn't place the sanctions on your fvcking program so you need to take you anger out on the NCAA, not me. The fact of the matter is that the middle class home that his fam was staying in over 100 miles from campus was paid for by an agent and not his middle aged family. There are emails between the family and the agent that have been shown.
I also said that I didn't believe that USC or any of it's boosters paid him persay but that I believed they turned a blind eye. I do not hate USC for it and think that ALL major programs have some form of pay for play system going on in one way or another. Bush pissed off that agent by not doing what he promised to do by signing with another agent and not paying him back for his expenses.
Albert Means was actually innocent in his ordeal. The problem with Albert Means was that a booster paid his high school coach to get his signature, which pissed off Means assistant coach because he didn't get paid as well, and shit hit the fan. Alabama got what they deserved and all of us admit it at this point. USC getting shitty at other fanbases for saying that they believe USC knew SOMETHING is ridiculous. You can hate on the NCAA all you want but it wasn't our fanbases that brought down the sanctions.
I have also said that I think the difference in the USC sanctions compared to Ohio State's sanctions are a joke. I think USC should have gotten less and Ohio State should have gotten more.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 4/20/2012 at 6:14 PM
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R.A.T.T. said...
It's not a problem. I try to call things like I see them and be objective. It's a lot more reasonable than pumping out blind hatred. Alabama hasn't been a saint of a program over the years and it would be hypocritical of me to jump on other programs for doing stuff that we have done ourselves.
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You have been more than fair in all your posts regarding USC, and I thank you for that. If others took a more moderate approach such as you have, I don't think we'd be as touchy.
The NCAA dragged out our case four times longer than anyone else's, just looking for things. Universities should be punished with equal fairness, and for the degree of the "crime"
I'm sick to death of this subject, and people throwing the "cheater" tag on us, when it was RB, the football player, that cheated.
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You have been more than fair in all your posts regarding USC, and I thank you for that. If others took a more moderate approach such as you have, I don't think we'd be as touchy.
The NCAA dragged out our case four times longer than anyone else's, just looking for things. Universities should be punished with equal fairness, and for the degree of the "crime"
I'm sick to death of this subject, and people throwing the "cheater" tag on us, when it was RB, the football player, that cheated.
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I don't know why your trying to ge all pissy with me. I've actually been saying good things about your program. I didn't place the sanctions on your fvcking program so you need to take you anger out on the NCAA, not me. The fact of the matter is that the middle class home that his fam was staying in over 100 miles from campus was paid for by an agent and not his middle aged family. There are emails between the family and the agent that have been shown.
I also said that I didn't believe that USC or any of it's boosters paid him persay but that I believed they turned a blind eye. I do not hate USC for it and think that ALL major programs have some form of pay for play system going on in one way or another. Bush pissed off that agent by not doing what he promised to do by signing with another agent and not paying him back for his expenses.
Albert Means was actually innocent in his ordeal. The problem with Albert Means was that a booster paid his high school coach to get his signature, which pissed off Means assistant coach because he didn't get paid as well, and shit hit the fan. Alabama got what they deserved and all of us admit it at this point. USC getting shitty at other fanbases for saying that they believe USC knew SOMETHING is ridiculous. You can hate on the NCAA all you want but it wasn't our fanbases that brought down the sanctions.
I have also said that I think the difference in the USC sanctions compared to Ohio State's sanctions are a joke. I think USC should have gotten less and Ohio State should have gotten more.
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Action Figure said...
Pissy? , man, ain't nobody trippin with you. It is what it is. SC got their issue from the NCAA and are dealing with it accordingly. Also, I used the Albert Means situation as an example to show how lame and inconsistent the NCAA is. In Means' situation an actual Bama booster was found to have been involved whereas the "agent" providing Bush and his fam with extra benefits had no ties to SC whatsoever.
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I'll agree with you that the NCAA is inconsistent as fvck when it hands down sanctions. I don't know what they are thinking half the time. You would think they would have a book that says if this happens then this is what you are facing. Sadly I think it just depends on the mood of the committee on a particular day when they hand them down.
I would have said a one (two year bowl ban maybe) and ten schollies for your school. Losing 30 scholarships was excessive to say the least. If it was proved that it was a booster then your sanctions would have made sense.
I'm assuming that USC fans will at least admit that Carroll only left because he knew your school was about to get hammered though? I haven't asked USC fans about that.
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I'll agree with you that the NCAA is inconsistent as fvck when it hands down sanctions. I don't know what they are thinking half the time. You would think they would have a book that says if this happens then this is what you are facing. Sadly I think it just depends on the mood of the committee on a particular day when they hand them down.
I would have said a one (two year bowl ban maybe) and ten schollies for your school. Losing 30 scholarships was excessive to say the least. If it was proved that it was a booster then your sanctions would have made sense.
I'm assuming that USC fans will at least admit that Carroll only left because he knew your school was about to get hammered though? I haven't asked USC fans about that.
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lulz at you taking it personally, nobody is calling your a cheater personally


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