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TigerForever said...
Saban is sleazy. That is all there is to it. He says it's business but we are talking about 18 year old kids here. Saban signs them to 1 year scholarships so he can drop them when he oversigns. I'm proud that Coach Chizik is not like that. He don't discard kids because they are injured nor if they have cancer. Shon Coleman had cancer when he signed and Coach Chizik honored his scholarship. He is still on scholarship and will be until he graduates even if he never plays a down of football. It is the right thing to do. All recruits that sign with Auburn now get 4 year scholarships and become part of the family. I am thankful that this kid had good guidance and will be in a better place. I feel sorry for the kids that get sucked into Saban's process.
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TigerForever said...
What if he was diagnosed with cancer before he signed? Would it be "unfair to ask the kid to get healthy before you bring him on campus"? Coach Chizik brought Shon Coleman on campus with a scholarship. He didn't have to but that is the difference in Coach Chizik and Saban. Coach Chizik cares about his players even if they haven't signed yet. He wasn't concerned about when Shon Coleman would be able to contribute. Shon was committed to Auburn University and Coach Chizik stuck with him and did the right thing.
Saban didn't care about this kid that had been committed to the University of Alabama for almost a year. The reason wasn't all about the knee injury. He just wanted to dump the kid so he could make room for the kids that would be oversigned. Saban wasn't concerned with the kid not starting school for a year. Saban will never consider doing the right thing if it doesn't benefit him. I hope Saban gets everything he deserves. Saban is the face of the University of Alabama. Thank God that it is not my beloved university.
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Tide06 said...
If the kid is diagnosed with cancer, you put him on a medical scholarship and let him sort out his life threatening disease before he starts worrying about playing football, end of story. Life > football
Let me make this very clear, I don't know exactly what happened, none of us do. If we cut the kid loose, I don't believe that was the ethical thing to do. If he was asked to get healthy before he shows up on campus, as long as he receives four years of paid education (note I dont say four years of football scholarships), I'm fine with it because that is all that I believe is promised or implied when you sign an LOI.
Do all of you realize how many kids at how many programs have been completely dropped due to major knee injuries in the past or are you really naive enough to think that this is a new phenomenon? Go talk to some former BCS players about what it really means to play big time football and then come back and talk to me about Bama. If we dont like it, great, lets change the rules.
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hubcitytider said...
you can't reason with a guy like that...'he's 'all in' 'family'...very cult like...it's tearing him up...he's probably a football fan and he chose to go to aub in the 60's...so in his life he's witnessed big brother win 9 major poll era titles...61,64,65,73,78,79,92,2009,2011. that eats him up.
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TigerForever said...
Saban is sleazy. That is all there is to it. He says it's business but we are talking about 18 year old kids here. Saban signs them to 1 year scholarships so he can drop them when he oversigns. I'm proud that Coach Chizik is not like that. He don't discard kids because they are injured nor if they have cancer. Shon Coleman had cancer when he signed and Coach Chizik honored his scholarship. He is still on scholarship and will be until he graduates even if he never plays a down of football. It is the right thing to do. All recruits that sign with Auburn now get 4 year scholarships and become part of the family. I am thankful that this kid had good guidance and will be in a better place. I feel sorry for the kids that get sucked into Saban's process.
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TigerForever said...
LOL
Saban wasn't willing to let him sign scholarship papers because he needed to take care of his oversigning situation -NOT because of the injured knee.
Correct -Shon Coleman delayed entering Auburn because of his medical condition - NOT becasue Coach Chizik asked him to.
Shon Coleman signed his scholarship papers and got on medical hardship. Coach Chizik didn't have to let him sign the scholarship papers but he did the right thing. He doesn't oversign and dump his commits.
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Will said...
I think this is the reason the Coaches should not push their commits not to take visits to other schools. I understand the greyshirt rule and i'm fine with it, but if a kid is committed to a school and his coach asks him not to take any other visits and then pulls out the grey shirt card then that is shady. If you ask a kid to keep his grades up, stay out of trouble, and not take any visits and he does this, you should honor your part of the deal.
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hubcitytider said...
chiznik was sweet to dyer...until dyer was asked to appear in cheech and chongs next movie. chiznik showed tremendous leadership...except to the 4 armed gunmen who were robbing a drug trailer...yes trailer...au students willingly choose to live in trailer parks. tigger4eva? has chiznik shown tremendous leadership to the 42% of the 09 and 10 signees who have already left the team? does trooper taylor teach an ethics class at au? or curtis luper sociology? wde!! 'family' 'all in'
Stange that this post was never responded to by the Aubs.
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So it was just a coincidence that the only two players asked to grayshirt were the two coming off of knee surgeries? Are you claiming that our staff had Caleb Gulledge rated ahead of Philon? Really?
When did CNS ever not let a kid have a scholarship because of a medical issue? Name one.
We've signed NUMEROUS players in the last 3 classes coming off of knee surgeries. All of them are still on our roster. Both of our commitments with knee injuries/surgeries were asked to grayshirt. They didn't have their offers pulled and they didn't get "cut," as an AU beat writer said on the radio this morning, or "dumped" as you want to claim. We have been grayshirting ever since 2004 and there has yet to be a single player that hasn't had their scholarship honored afterwards, despite what you want to claim. If there has, name him.
Earlier this year the AU fans were crying about Saban overusing the medical hardship waiver, but now you're claiming that Chizik is doing a good thing by using it? Which is it?
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Good luck to him, hope he has a good career at KY.
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