The Blue Board

No, Collins had a grayshirt offer and chose to enroll immediately at UK. He didn't have his UA offer pulled, at least not per his high school coach, who said that Bobby Williams was trying to talk him into accepting the grayshirt all the way up to NSD morning.

As for the medical hardships, that is a question for the doctors that wouldn't clear them.

As for replacing medical hardships, they don't count towards the football numbers once they're on medical, so they can be replaced immediately with a healthy player (an extra signee).

I don't think anyone will dispute that CNS is hellbent on not allowing signing rules to risk us being under our maximum scholarship numbers. He said when the rule was passed that it would force hard decisions and he just showed that he's willing to make the hard decisions if it comes down to it. At this point, after 5 years of recruiting there has yet to be a commitment that hasn't had his scholarship honored IF he chose to do it CNS's way, so we'll have to live with that. If 1 or 2 players get informed 2-4 weeks before NSD that he wants them to come in January, then so be it. We have had plenty of starters and contributors do just that and were no worse for wear.

The thing that burns our rivals up is that this is only a problem for programs that have coveted recruits lining up for spots. If you're having to beg and pander ("4 year scholarships...") to come close to filling your class, this will never be an issue.

Please. Tell me which teams across the country do not claim AP or coaches poll National Titles when awarded by those polls. Could you also list those teams that have won,tied or lost their bowl games and still sometimes were awarded an AP or Coaches NC. I'll start....... Notre Dame, USC, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Auburn, and every other school that's ever won them.

Maybe he's just misinformed. If he wants to dispute the Rose bowl era titles then by all means, go ahead but the AP/UPI(coaches)/ BCs titles are claimed by everyone no matter the circumstance. Auburn claims the 57 title and they didn't play in a bowl because they were in probation. I have no problem with that. Bowls weren't meant to determine squat prior to 1998. They were rewards and exhibitions.

The fact that we are top 20 on every site and everyone is acting like we flopped is telling of the expectations of our program. Thank you.

Give me a break. I am tired of hearing about hearing that these kids being only 18-19 years old. I have a 19 year old nephew fighting in Afganistan. You are asking these "kids" to wait 6 moths to start getting a free education.

Congrats.

Auburns recruiting class is considered a flop this year because they are coming off of a NC and yet missed out on most of the top recruits they were in for. Now any other year and yes AU is about where we would suspect them to be.

It tells us that our fan base is delusional. Its really the best we can expect with Saban at the helm at Bama.

I love the bleeding hearts in here... Ohh wait where we're they when Taylor got injured and GT, Uga and others not only pulled scholarship offers but quit talking to the kid. I guess they were great moral leaders there. Facts are this, kid knew there was a chance he would be grey shirted. Saban told him this and said Alabama would stick by him but that he had to greyshirt. This wasn't sprung on him on signing day. Also if you pansies on here are so thinking this kid got screwed then why aren't all of you up in arms about having a early signing period. Saban is one of the few coaches who wants one. Funny though all we hear is about saban but not one word about les miles and how he cut a kid one day before signing early in Patrick miller. He signed with auburn but only because lsu pulled his early scholarship because they needed it for gunner Kiel. That kid was a 4 star and not one bleep from you bleeding hearts.

If you ask a kid not to look around at other schools while your committed to play for your school then you should not ask him just before signing day to take a grey shirt. He did his part now you do yours. Both Saban and Miles did it so i'm not bashing Saban. I'm active duty military so i can say this but if you nephew came back for the war and the military asked him to wait 6 months to start his GI bill after he did what they asked of him he would be upset too.

Your analogy about the GI coming home and it be like us not honoring his GI bill is not even close to the situation. First of all GI's aren't promised money for college. The military doesn't give away money for promises. Those kids on the GI bill "earned" their money they were never given it. They busted their butts for it.

Honestly I hope Saban becomes more cold blooded next time. Next time a kid has a scholarship offer and he gets hurt just go ahead and cut the offer and cut contact with the kid. Do what all these fine moralistic coaches did with Taylor. I mean isn't that what you all are asking for that Saban be more moralistic? Well there you go, he can be like every other fine upstanding coach who didn't even bother to call Taylor after he tore his knee up, they all showed what fine men of character they were.

So I can assume that the Felon 4 are still under scholly? You are so dumb that I find it amusing. Thanks for the laugh. I predict that you will be calling for Chiz's firing with in 3 years.