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You must be a glass half full kind of guy, this is really taking strides in making the B1G more competitive.... The guage will be how many points did you allow sparty to score with a shutout being the norm. Better start picking up 2 QB's a year, depth will be an absolute need from here on out.
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MrWoodson said...
Here's all you need to know ...
1. Urbie had carte blanche to hire anyone and chose not to retain Bollman. He hired Iowa State's OC instead.
2. After Bollman was released by OSU, no other team jumped on him as an OC and he ended up settling for the OL coach position at a moribund program (BC) with a HC on the hot seat.
3. BC continued on its downward spiral despite hiring Bollman. Accordingly, the HC was fired after one more season and BC brought in a new HC (from Temple). Like Urbie, he didn't retain Bollman either.
4. After being released by BC, Bollman was hired by Darrell Hazell to be the OL coach at Purdue. Not the OC, but the OL coach. And remember that Hazell was on staff with him before, too, but much more recently than Dantonio.
5. OSU's biggest rebuilding project under Urbie is the OL. The talent and depth is far behind where it should be for a program of OSU's stature.
IMO if this guy has any proven talent, maybe it's as an OL coach. He's totally unproven as an OC (his one year actually calling plays and running the offense at OSU without the Vest was a disaster). The people who should have access to the best info about him and his time at OSU (Urbie and Hazel) didn't hire him as an OC. Urbie, in fact, didn't hire him at all. And, apparently, he's a poor recruiter to boot. Idk what criteria Dantonio used when screening candidates, but Bollman looks like an awful choice on paper.
This post was edited by copemoney0 on 2/27/2013 at 11:44 AM
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Here's all you need to know ...
1. Urbie had carte blanche to hire anyone and chose not to retain Bollman. He hired Iowa State's OC instead.
2. After Bollman was released by OSU, no other team jumped on him as an OC and he ended up settling for the OL coach position at a moribund program (BC) with a HC on the hot seat.
3. BC continued on its downward spiral despite hiring Bollman. Accordingly, the HC was fired after one more season and BC brought in a new HC (from Temple). Like Urbie, he didn't retain Bollman either.
4. After being released by BC, Bollman was hired by Darrell Hazell to be the OL coach at Purdue. Not the OC, but the OL coach. And remember that Hazell was on staff with him before, too, but much more recently than Dantonio.
5. OSU's biggest rebuilding project under Urbie is the OL. The talent and depth is far behind where it should be for a program of OSU's stature.
IMO if this guy has any proven talent, maybe it's as an OL coach. He's totally unproven as an OC (his one year actually calling plays and running the offense at OSU without the Vest was a disaster). The people who should have access to the best info about him and his time at OSU (Urbie and Hazel) didn't hire him as an OC. Urbie, in fact, didn't hire him at all. And, apparently, he's a poor recruiter to boot. Idk what criteria Dantonio used when screening candidates, but Bollman looks like an awful choice on paper.
This post and its contents is not meant to demean or marginalize the contributions of Jim Tressel as Head Coach at The Ohio State University
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IMO if this guy has any proven talent, maybe it's as an OL coach. He's totally unproven as an OC (his one year actually calling plays and running the offense at OSU without the Vest was a disaster). The people who should have access to the best info about him and his time at OSU (Urbie and Hazel) didn't hire him as an OC. Urbie, in fact, didn't hire him at all. And, apparently, he's a poor recruiter to boot. Idk what criteria Dantonio used when screening candidates, but Bollman looks like an awful choice on paper.
This post was edited by ScumDominator on 2/27/2013 at 11:49 AM
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copemoney0 said...
I have no idea how good or poor this hire is.. I really don't know that much about him..
He was OSU's OC from 01-11, so that means he has a NT ring and multiple BCS rings.. if Tressel was truly calling the plays the entire time, why would he stay on as an OC? (serious question).
Also think it's unfair to look at the 2011 season that included a scandal, their top 4-5 players suspended for a while, a true frosh who can't really throw in a pro-style O.. though I do remember them throwing up tons of points against UM when they basically had their entire personnel..
If he blows as a recruiter, that sucks and that seems to be something Dantonio has put an emphasis on, so it seems strange to hire someone who, if he did come out and say it, that he doesn't like recruiting.. that doesn't sit well with me.. but in terms of actual playcalling, I really have no idea what to expect.
Also should note, MSU still hasn't confirmed this hire and recruits that were asked haven't been told anything.
Seeing is believing
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buckperry said...
Because the kids liked him and Tress could supplement for his shortcomings. We (OSU fans) have hated The Walrus for a long LONG time and couldn't wait for him to be fired. One problem with that...Tress doesn't (didn't) fire anyone.
So you are saying JT, during the prime of his career when OSU was winning a National Title, BCS Bowls and B1G Titles left and right, kept the dead weight of an OC just because he didn't want to fire anyone and because the kids liked him?
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ScumDominator said...
now now steve, is that broom still stuck up you a$$ from the sweep you predicted on Sunday? We both know Bolls wasnt a HC.. Dantonio may not be for much longer either for that matter.. Kudos for going out and gaining a competitive disadvantage!
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Here's all you need to know ...
1. Urbie had carte blanche to hire anyone and chose not to retain Bollman. He hired Iowa State's OC instead.
2. After Bollman was released by OSU, no other team jumped on him as an OC and he ended up settling for the OL coach position at a moribund program (BC) with a HC on the hot seat.
3. BC continued on its downward spiral despite hiring Bollman. Accordingly, the HC was fired after one more season and BC brought in a new HC (from Temple). Like Urbie, he didn't retain Bollman either.
4. After being released by BC, Bollman was hired by Darrell Hazell to be the OL coach at Purdue. Not the OC, but the OL coach. And remember that Hazell was on staff with him before, too, but much more recently than Dantonio.
5. OSU's biggest rebuilding project under Urbie is the OL. The talent and depth is far behind where it should be for a program of OSU's stature.
IMO if this guy has any proven talent, maybe it's as an OL coach though the poor condition of OSU's depth chart definitely raises some flags regarding even that. He's totally unproven as an OC (his one year actually calling plays and running the offense at OSU without the Vest was a disaster). The people who should have access to the best info about him and his time at OSU (Urbie and Hazell) didn't hire him as an OC. Urbie, in fact, didn't hire him at all. And, apparently, he's a poor recruiter to boot. Idk what criteria Dantonio used when screening candidates, but Bollman looks like an awful choice on paper.
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So you are saying JT, during the prime of his career when OSU was winning a National Title, BCS Bowls and B1G Titles left and right, kept the dead weight of an OC just because he didn't want to fire anyone and because the kids liked him?
This post and its contents is not meant to demean or marginalize the contributions of Jim Tressel as Head Coach at The Ohio State University
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