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Larry Scott speaking the truth.

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    When discussing the playoff, he made sure to get the fact that PAC-12 teams play the toughest SOS's of any conference. Any committee member must understand this, or not be eligible to be on a playoff committee IMO

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  • The 20th century called, they want Notre Dame's credibility back.

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  • Larry Scott was the best hire that the PAC could have hoped for. Kudos...for whoever hired him. Failed pro tennis player to strong-minded conference commissioner.

    This post was edited by OCanada on 6/26/2012 at 7:10 PM

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  • In a round robin schedule between App St, Georgia Southern, Syracuse, and Minnesota, my money wouldn't be on Syracuse or Minnesota, but whatever makes folks sleep better at night is fiine with me.

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  • OCanada said...

    Larry Scott was the best hire that the PAC could have hoped for. Kudos...for whoever hired him.

    No doubt. Though much of it has to do with Hansen being one of the worst Commissioners of all time.

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  • BetterOff said...

    In a round robin schedule between App St, Georgia Southern, Syracuse, and Minnesota, my money wouldn't be on Syracuse or Minnesota, but whatever makes folks sleep better at night is fiine with me.

    Nothing to do with the argument at hand.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Nothing to do with the argument at hand.

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

    Mike Garrett came out and stated a few years ago when we scheduled Minnesota, that few teams wanted to schedule USC for a home and home...no one came out to challenge that public statement, no one.

    Both coaches, Auburn and Arkansas stated publicly that they would never schedule USC again...one (Auburn) even apologized to the fans stating USC "was not that good when we scheduled them" Yet, there was dumbo with his floppy ears, begging for a share of the trophy in the National Championship game...he made sure he got his "People's Choice" award and tractor parade though....

    There are programs out there that schedule FCS teams on purpose, USC has never done that, we can only play those that will take up the challenge...doesn't excuse programs scheduling OOC games with the Sisters of the Poor.

    This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 6/27/2012 at 1:06 AM

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  • BetterOff said...

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

    Way to look at the overall body of USC's OOC scheduling philosophy, as well as the Pacs overall OOC scheduling philosophy.

    This year alone, a few of the teams Pac teams will play OOC games against
    LSU
    Ohio State
    Wiscy
    Nebraska
    Okie St
    Mizzou
    Illannoy
    ND

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  • So do a few really good OoC games make up for a rather lackluster IC schedule? I mean, after USC and Oregon... blank

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  • sf2k4 said...

    So do a few really good OoC games make up for a rather lackluster IC schedule? I mean, after USC and Oregon... blank

    Weak troll.

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  • ProUSC said...

    Weak troll.

    How is that a troll? After USC and Oregon, who in the Pac-12 is really pulling their weight? Washington?

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  • sf2k4 said...

    How is that a troll? After USC and Oregon, who in the Pac-12 is really pulling their weight? Washington?

    Hint, go look at the top 5 BCS standings from last year. cheers

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  • brdcstr1 said...

    Way to look at the overall body of USC's OOC scheduling philosophy, as well as the Pacs overall OOC scheduling philosophy.

    This year alone, a few of the teams Pac teams will play OOC games against LSU Ohio State Wiscy Nebraska Okie St Mizzou Illannoy ND

    pretty decent OOC scheduling for the Pac-12 IMO...especially considering that the P12 is playing 9 conference games.

    many SEC teams are somewhat boxed in to their OOC schedule because they have a 'rival' in the ACC that provides them with a OOC game against BCS conference competition. Given the system in place there isn't much of a need for a program with 8 conference games to schedule multiple BCS-conference opponents in the OOC schedule. The P12 playing a handful of tough teams from other leagues and having 9 conference games is commendable.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

    Ranked team is a dumb term. Many believe that Notre Dame is a top-25 team, but there schedule will prohibit them from finishing in the top-25. Either way you have to look at the entire schedule, not just pick and choose 3 games. I do admit that we have watered down our OOC a bit during the sanction years. After the sanctions are over, then we have Notre Dame, and TAMU in back to back years, then after than we replace TAMU with Tennessee.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Ranked team is a dumb term. Many believe that Notre Dame is a top-25 team, but there schedule will prohibit them from finishing in the top-25. Either way you have to look at the entire schedule, not just pick and choose 3 games. I do admit that we have watered down our OOC a bit during the sanction years. After the sanctions are over, then we have Notre Dame, and TAMU in back to back years, then after than we replace TAMU with Tennessee.

    If you admit to watering it down, then don't tell me how tough it is. I am a USC fan and cheer for them actually, but I wouldn't want a free pass for an incident my University's boosters, coaches, or players created themselves.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Mike Garrett came out and stated a few years ago when we scheduled Minnesota, that few teams wanted to schedule USC for a home and home...no one came out to challenge that public statement, no one.

    Both coaches, Auburn and Arkansas stated publicly that they would never schedule USC again...one (Auburn) even apologized to the fans stating USC "was not that good when we scheduled them" Yet, there was dumbo with his floppy ears, begging for a share of the trophy in the National Championship game...he made sure he got his "People's Choice" award and tractor parade though....

    There are programs out there that schedule FCS teams on purpose, USC has never done that, we can only play those that will take up the challenge...doesn't excuse programs scheduling OOC games with the Sisters of the Poor.

    Link?

    Don't remember hearing any of that.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Ranked team is a dumb term. Many believe that Notre Dame is a top-25 team, but there schedule will prohibit them from finishing in the top-25. Either way you have to look at the entire schedule, not just pick and choose 3 games. I do admit that we have watered down our OOC a bit during the sanction years. After the sanctions are over, then we have Notre Dame, and TAMU in back to back years, then after than we replace TAMU with Tennessee.

    Who considers Notre Dame good?

    It's a rivalry game that you've stuck with and I applaud that, but it's hard to count teams that lose 5 or 6 games regularly as good, IMO.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Mike Garrett came out and stated a few years ago when we scheduled Minnesota, that few teams wanted to schedule USC for a home and home...no one came out to challenge that public statement, no one.

    I highly doubt that. Maybe he had a couple of big-name teams in mind and they didn't pan out, but there are plenty of high profile schools that would do a home and home with USC.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

    ND will be a top 25 calber team this year, although it may not be reflected in wins due to the fact they play a brutal schedule, as usual.

    ND will assuredly be a top 25 team in 2013. You are taking an illogical liberty in stating they will not.

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  • greg bell said...

    ND will be a top 25 calber team this year, although it may not be reflected in wins due to the fact they play a brutal schedule, as usual.

    ND will assuredly be a top 25 team in 2013. You are taking an illogical liberty in stating they will not.

    Notre Dame has a better than average chance against 6 teams this year. Navy, Purdue, Miami, Pitt, BC and Wake Forrest. The other 6 should beat Notre Dame handily. I agree that Notre Dame can go 6-6 and be top 25. In next year's pre season poll that is.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Sure it does. USC fans point to playing BCS level teams in OOC play, but fail to point out that last year those teams were Minnesota (who lost to a FCS team and New Mexico St), Syracuse (1-6 in the Big East), and Notre Dame (unranked). This year's schedule is Hawaii, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. 2013 is Hawaii, BC, Utah St, and Notre Dame.

    The deception is amazing. That is 3 consecutive years without an OOC game vs a probable ranked team.

    But bama played North Texas,Kent State, Penn State, and division 2 Ga Southern,All unranked.SMH.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Notorious URB on 6/27/2012 at 11:27 AM

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  • greg bell said...

    ND will be a top 25 calber team this year, although it may not be reflected in wins due to the fact they play a brutal schedule, as usual.

    ND will assuredly be a top 25 team in 2013. You are taking an illogical liberty in stating they will not.

    I may be taking liberties in saying that, but with the track record, I wouldn't say it is illogical.

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  • Notorious URB said...

    But bama played North Texas,Kent State, Penn State, and division 2 Ga Southern,All unranked.SMH.

    I am not the one beating my drum about OOC schedules. I would say that @Penn St was tougher than any of USC's OOC games last year and I would have put money on Georgia Southern over Minnesota and Syracuse straight up.

    My point is that people look at a name and see it is a BCS conference team and think it means something. If Alabama would have scheduled Indiana, would that have been a better game since they are in the B1G than playing North Texas?

    Before you jump the gun there, North Texas beat Indiana.

    Would look better with Minnesota on the schedule rather than Georgia Southern because Minnesota is in the B1G? Minnesota lost to an FCS team last year.

    The same argument holds true for every team. My own is not out of the realm of criticism. Alabama fans barked back in 2010 that they were playing a road game that year as well against a BCS conference team. Well, instead of it being at Penn St (played them at home that year), it was Duke.

    I can assure that Georgia Southen would probably murder Duke.

    I am not attacking USC for their schedule as any team that plays in the 4, maybe 5 major conferences is going to get tested a few times along the way. I am just pointing out that it is not always what it appears to be, especially during the time Kiffin has been there and in the next few years. Not blaming it on Kiffin either, just using him as a time reference, before I get attacked for that. Think they guy is a great coach and he is only going to get better as he matures into being a coach at one of the top football powers.

    I am also not going to sit here and say that going to Washington, Arizona St, or Cal is easy either. Most road games in any of the major conferences is losable, as USC, Alabama, LSU, Florida, tOSU, OU, and Texas all know very well.

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  • BetterOff said...

    I am not the one beating my drum about OOC schedules. I would say that @Penn St was tougher than any of USC's OOC games last year and I would have put money on Georgia Southern over Minnesota and Syracuse straight up.

    My point is that people look at a name and see it is a BCS conference team and think it means something. If Alabama would have scheduled Indiana, would that have been a better game since they are in the B1G than playing North Texas?

    Before you jump the gun there, North Texas beat Indiana.

    Would look better with Minnesota on the schedule rather than Georgia Southern because Minnesota is in the B1G? Minnesota lost to an FCS team last year.

    The same argument holds true for every team. My own is not out of the realm of criticism. Alabama fans barked back in 2010 that they were playing a road game that year as well against a BCS conference team. Well, instead of it being at Penn St (played them at home that year), it was Duke.

    I can assure that Georgia Southen would probably murder Duke.

    I am not attacking USC for their schedule as any team that plays in the 4, maybe 5 major conferences is going to get tested a few times along the way. I am just pointing out that it is not always what it appears to be, especially during the time Kiffin has been there and in the next few years. Not blaming it on Kiffin either, just using him as a time reference, before I get attacked for that. Think they guy is a great coach and he is only going to get better as he matures into being a coach at one of the top football powers.

    I am also not going to sit here and say that going to Washington, Arizona St, or Cal is easy either. Most road games in any of the major conferences is losable, as USC, Alabama, LSU, Florida, tOSU, OU, and Texas all know very well.

    Notre Dame would've STOMPED Penn State for sure. I am not knocking you but you're speculations are pretty off and sound majorly biased. Bama had a cakewalk of a schedule last yr and had their hardest game at home. Pac 12 ALWAYS schedules tough every yr...and more than any conf. and thats coming from a Buckeye. Our sched this yr is a joke.....calling a spade a spade..ya dig?

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