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Lets talk 2nd round steals right now

  • Lavont David will be a great pick in the 2nd, mopst have him rated better than upshaw

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  • Rueban Randle (homer)

    Dwight Bentley (beast mode)

    Upshaw should be on everyone's list

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    Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.

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  • Cordy Glenn - projected by everyone to go first round. High of 13, low of 28.
    Fleener
    Upshaw
    Worthy

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  • there are definately a couple steals left starting round 2, several guys left were rated or mocked as 1st rounders as high as the mid teens should be interesting first couple picks as i suspect teams to try and trade up to get the top talent still left...... i know of glenn,fleener,hill,martin, worthy,adams,upshaw as a couple guys who were expected to go round 1 should be interesting to see what teams do

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  • Lesticals said...

    Rueban Randle (homer)

    Dwight Bentley (beast mode)

    Upshaw should be on everyone's list

    I think Randle could surprise people and end up being the best WR in the draft. No single player suffered more through the JJ fiasco than Randle.

    Thought he might sneak into the late first even after his workouts.

    Upshaw was the best player on Bama's defense and hardest working guy on the team. I think getting slightly slighted will only make him better as well. Trent and him were the two guys Cochran even said he never had to push one second since the day they arrived.

    BetterOff

  • As a Bills fan, I want anyone from this group of guys. In order

    Reuben Randle
    Cordy Glenn
    Stephen Hill
    Mike Adams
    Alshon Jeffrey
    Jon Martin

    BTW to the PSU guy saying Still was better than the first 3 DT's taken, that just isn't accurate and put your homer aside.

    Fletcher Cox had a great year last year in the SEC, clearly a better prospect.
    Poe and Still aren't comparable due to different positions, and roles... This may be your only argument.
    Michael Brockers a different type of prospect, but projects much better to the NFL than Still.

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  • supermario9 said...

    I didn't say 3rd rounders. biggrin

    lol

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    As a Bills fan, I want anyone from this group of guys. In order

    Reuben Randle Cordy Glenn Stephen Hill Mike Adams Alshon Jeffrey Jon Martin

    BTW to the PSU guy saying Still was better than the first 3 DT's taken, that just isn't accurate and put your homer aside.

    Fletcher Cox had a great year last year in the SEC, clearly a better prospect. Poe and Still aren't comparable due to different positions, and roles... This may be your only argument. Michael Brockers a different type of prospect, but projects much better to the NFL than Still.

    im glad people are giving my boy his props. fletcher cox should have been the 1st dlinemen taken but i giess the chiefs needed poe worse than cox

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  • Maybe it's just me but I think Upshaw will be the best defensive player that Bama has in this draft. I really think he will do well in the NFL. I'm not saying anything bad about the other defensive players Bama put out I just always thought Upshaw was one of the best.

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  • BetterOff said...

    I think Randle could surprise people and end up being the best WR in the draft. No single player suffered more through the JJ fiasco than Randle.

    Thought he might sneak into the late first even after his workouts.

    Upshaw was the best player on Bama's defense and hardest working guy on the team. I think getting slightly slighted will only make him better as well. Trent and him were the two guys Cochran even said he never had to push one second since the day they arrived.

    Randle really is better than people think.

    6'4", fast and has great hands, great run blocker and good route runner.

    He will be solid for whoever he goes to.

    I was shocked upshaw wasn't a first rounder. He is a bonafide stud

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  • deltadawg82 said...

    im glad people are giving my boy his props. fletcher cox should have been the 1st dlinemen taken but i giess the chiefs needed poe worse than cox

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Fletcher Cox seems more like a DE in a 3-4 and a DT in a 4-3. Chiefs run a 3-4 and don't need a DE. They need a NG more. As a chiefs fan I really hope that Poe just had poor coaching at Memphis. I hope that with good coaching he can reach his ceiling which is really really high.

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  • deltadawg82 said...

    im glad people are giving my boy his props. fletcher cox should have been the 1st dlinemen taken but i giess the chiefs needed poe worse than cox

    BTW I was always scared of Fletcher when we played you guys. I think he was a very safe pick.

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  • Lamar Miller is the best back in this draft imo

    Only reason i like him better than T Rich is his size and speed

    Both are great but Lamar is so undervalued

    He comes off the 01' canes and he goes top 10

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Lamar Miller is the best back in this draft imo

    Only reason i like him better than T Rich is his size and speed

    Both are great but Lamar is so undervalued

    He comes off the 01' canes and he goes top 10

    Injuries scare me. That's the only reason he wasn't a first rounder IMO.

    And the fact that he was softer than a stuffed animal at times last year. But that connects with his injuries. When his shoulder was bothering him, all you had to do was put a finger on him and he went down.

    This post was edited by gocanes_10 on 4/27/2012 at 2:09 PM

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  • gocanes_10 said...

    Injuries scare me. That's the only reason he wasn't a first rounder IMO.

    And the fact that he was softer than a stuffed animal at times last year. But that connects with his injuries. When his shoulder was bothering him, all you had to do was put a finger on him and he went down.

    This.

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  • gocanes_10 said...

    Injuries scare me. That's the only reason he wasn't a first rounder IMO.

    And the fact that he was softer than a stuffed animal at times last year. But that connects with his injuries. When his shoulder was bothering him, all you had to do was put a finger on him and he went down.

    Also playing on a shit team can alter your focus big time

    I think Miller has more talent than Mcgahee and Portis, i hope he stays healthy cause when he turns up field and goes its a thing of beauty

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Also playing on a shit team can alter your focus big time

    I think Miller has more talent than Mcgahee and Portis, i hope he stays healthy cause when he turns up field and goes its a thing of beauty

    I agree.

    I will say this, If Lamar stays healthy and learns how to use his power then he will turn out to be the best RB in this draft. Lamar has a lot more power then people realize, he just doesn't know how to use it. tOSU fans got a taste of a healthy Lamar. And he used everything well in that game.

    But yes, he hits the hole better then any RB I've seen at Miami. He is extremely smooth.

    This post was edited by gocanes_10 on 4/27/2012 at 2:15 PM

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  • all I know is the Pats killed the draft for me lastnite. After Pitt took the OG I tweeted about how the football gods have blessed my Ravens only to have Belichick take Hightower from us. cry

    We need to take Upshaw then Adam or J Jenkins in Round 2.

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  • gocanes_10 said...

    I agree.

    I will say this, If Lamar stays healthy and learns how to use his power then he will turn out to be the best RB in this draft. Lamar has a lot more power then people realize, he just doesn't know how to use it. tOSU fans got a taste of a healthy Lamar. And he used everything well in that game.

    But yes, he hits the hole better then any RB I've seen at Miami. He is extremely smooth.

    See and ill go back to what i said before

    When on a team that losses you lose focus and attitude, i bet if winning he runs a lot harder.... That is how a lot of these younf kids are

    Keep em happy and they try even harder

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  • gocanes_10 said...

    I agree.

    I will say this, If Lamar stays healthy and learns how to use his power then he will turn out to be the best RB in this draft. Lamar has a lot more power then people realize, he just doesn't know how to use it. tOSU fans got a taste of a healthy Lamar. And he used everything well in that game.

    But yes, he hits the hole better then any RB I've seen at Miami. He is extremely smooth.

    You dont "learn" how to use your power in the NFL. When you try to teach guys to be power backs, they get hurt.

    As good as Felix Jones is, he hasnt been able to handle the beating yet.

    Lamar Miller is decent, but nowhere near Trents level. Since Saban has been @ Bama, Trent is the best player he's recruited, imo.

    Gore was injured a bunch in college, but his skill set was always in the bulk of his legs, and body control, and terriffic balance. People compare Trent to AP, but I see him more in the Gore category.

    Lamar Miller would fit PERFECT with the 'Skins, imo. As you pointed out, he hits the hole hard, and that zone blocking would catapult him into the 2nd level of the defense quickly.

    CRgator1

  • kitemac said...

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Fletcher Cox seems more like a DE in a 3-4 and a DT in a 4-3. Chiefs run a 3-4 and don't need a DE. They need a NG more. As a chiefs fan I really hope that Poe just had poor coaching at Memphis. I hope that with good coaching he can reach his ceiling which is really really high.

    yes that is correct thats why i said they needed poe more. cox can play anywhere on the dline and just looking at what he did at state (no help on the dline to be honest). I still think the chiefs could have gotten poe later.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Randle really is better than people think.

    6'4", fast and has great hands, great run blocker and good route runner.

    He will be solid for whoever he goes to.

    I was shocked upshaw wasn't a first rounder. He is a bonafide stud

    so do you still think brockers is better than coxlol

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  • mriderblue12 said...

    BTW to the PSU guy saying Still was better than the first 3 DT's taken, that just isn't accurate and put your homer aside.

    Fletcher Cox had a great year last year in the SEC, clearly a better prospect. Poe and Still aren't comparable due to different positions, and roles... This may be your only argument. Michael Brockers a different type of prospect, but projects much better to the NFL than Still.

    Of course a PSU fan is going to be biased towards their guy... That is half this thread.

    And I agree that Cox came on the second half of the season and had a very solid combine, so I have no problem with him being taken higher than Still... though I see them as about the same skill level (very similar stats, numbers at combine).
    Poe didn't do much at Memphis... let me repeat that... Memphis. What he did do was put up incredible numbers at the combine and I guess is being drafted due to potential (showed great athleticism). But if you can't tear it up at Memphis when you're that big and fast... there's something wrong with your football skills.
    Brockers was good on a stacked DL, but was absolutely miserable at the combine. He produced good at LSU against great competition. So could he do it on his own without all the talent around him like Still and Cox did.

    Ask Alabama O-linemen... They said that Still was the best interior lineman they faced.

    This post was edited by VinegarBased63624 on 4/27/2012 at 3:22 PM

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