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MJ would get in his head like Hannibal Lector.

Anyone that didn't watch MJ in his prime shouldn't even be posting. Not hating on LBJ but you are basing your opinions on what you've read or heard only.
MJ would win. Kinda guy he was.

I'm not a Lebron fan, I'm a basketball fan. My favorite of all time was Allen Iverson. I bring up stats because that is relevant.

Clutch situations can not be measure by heart because that is not measurable. That is a opinionated statement because in my opinion Lebron going off against the Pistons scoring 25 of the teams last points is way more clutch than half the crap Kobe has done, so as far as opinions go that is nonsense to say clutch is (heart)

That is basically like saying it only matters when I think it matters.

Its really this simple: MJ was the most fiercest competitor of all time.

At this time, the comparison isnt valid.

And how do you measure ferocity? Look at people like Reggie Miller that made you think you were a bad player? What about other sports? Its not a measurable metric. I say stats because that is fact based. Ferocity/Heart all these words are opinion based.

Still can't quote.
12. Agree totally even tho magic is my all time favorite.
FSU track. Yeah, I've seen Wilt, as a kid. Not the point. MJ' s will to win was admired by even his biggest rivals. If he hadn't "retired" would probably been 8 straight. Will never know. Point is, even MJ's foes considered him the ultimate competitor. Forget all stats, research his peers opinions v. LBJ or anyone else. All I need.

Never said I think clutch is all stats... I said the things you were stating are not measurable and are opinionated. One person may look at things completely different.

And I put stats because that is basically the only thing that translates. I actually argue against ESPN on everything. If you've noticed I would be considered a media hating hippy by most.

I'm basically saying things that are measurable are comparable. Opinionated statements are not. That is like saying the Giants comeback against the Patriots is more special than the Flu Game. Its strictly opinion. A football fan would say this a basketball fan wouldn't.

We just see it differently I guess.

Some guys have all the talent in the world, but simply dont put in the work to reach their full potential. Some guys are just fearless, and wluld kill to be the best.

It isnt measurable at all, I agree on that. But, thats why it is one of the most essential factors of being great.

If LBJ plays with the same passion that he has displayed during this playoff run, he has a good chance at finishing his career as the goat.

I watched him play, the question was based primarily on the fact that you can't measure that. AI took his team to the finals on his own with not one person helping him. Was he less of a competitor because he didn't win? He had less of a team.

Lebron did the same thing.

MJ was the best player on the best team. His team not only had the best rebounding but it had the best ran offense. The best coach the best everything. So how can you measure that against a person that did not win a team sport because his team did not show up?

I do agree he is great but I can't say he is more competitive than a person like Wilt who against the celtics had to score upwards of 50 just for his team to compete. Its just an opinionated thing that can't be measured purely because there is not metric for it. Not that I disagree with you on how competitive he was just can't compare it to what lebron goes through, what AI goes through, or what Wilt went through.

Its not the same situation and stats are not the only thing that matters to me, so don't think I'm that type. I understand there are things that happen that just make you feel something. But you can't measure that. That is a personal feeling. I can't compare your feeling of the Flu Game to mine because I'm not you.

That may be the single greatest sports moment to you. Mine could have to do with track. Its just about the inability to put a metric for heart. Do I think Jordan was a better player than Lebron, yes. Do I think Lebron could have won on those bulls teams? Yes. Its opinions that can't be proven but its what you feel. Which is why I say the only thing that can be compared without bias is the facts. The facts are stats.

Just love the Jordan stopper story. Brought in to shut down Michael in the playoffs. I think Jordan dumped 56 on him the first night.

who cares.....jordan is the GOAT and this is coming from a knicks fan who grew up with a FU@K michael jordan mentality.

jordan won with mediocre players, and before people mention pippen and rodman, take a look at the bulls roster from the first 3 rings jordan got.
bj armstrong, bill cartwright, horace grant, craig hodges for 3, stacy king, john paxson, will perdue, dennis hopson, cliff levingston and pippen. that was jordans supporting cast when he won his first 3 peat against magic, drexler and barkley. lebron wouldnt be able to do sh!t with that kind of help. what does jordan do with help? what happens when you give him a few stars on his team(pippen and rodman).......he goes 72 and fu@king 10. lebron gets wade and bosh and goes 46-20.

The System was catered to Jordan...and having all the pieces... Same goes for how he ran the Lakers....

The 93-94 Bulls won 55 games and went to the playoffs and lost in a 7 game series to a knicks team that pushed the team to 6 in the East finals the year before that.

95-95 They lost in 6 to Shaq led magics who went to the finals that year.

So the team was good without him they just needed that piece that they were missing.

When Lebron left the CAVS the team because the worst team in the NBA instantly.

Another I want to know and this is just something I just thought about has nothing to do with the conversation. But why do people talk so bad about Lebron's decision but don't say much about Jordan's retire come back retire comeback? He was the face of Chicago too...so what is the difference? The media. The would not make Jordan look bad because it didn't seem financially acceptable.

Now they know people like to watch the person they hate lose more than the person they love win. So the media set people up to hate Lebron. Do you think he came up with the idea to announce on TV? I highly doubt that.