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  • I have been in the courts for a few years fighting the banks, mortgage companies, mortgages holders etc. This is what I know to be true. ALL mortgages are fraudulent. The institutions have lied there way to megga riches. Everyone needs to hold them accountable. If MERS has touched your mortgage, its void on its face. Many mortgages in this country between 2000ish and 2010 where touched by MERS. They were found in a few state courts to have had an illegal business structure, with many more suits pending. The following are what I would do If I had an outstanding mortgage:

    1. Ask the lending company for the ORIGINAL "wet ink" mortgage document. They CAN NOT produce it as it is in Derivative Market "hell". In other words, the elite are gambling on your ability to pay it. Over and Over. And the derivative market is 700 TRILLION underwater.....
    2. Ask your banker for the ORIGIN of the funds.You will be quite surprised at their unwillingness to give you any information.
    3. If you are in forclosure or bankruptcy, understand that the group bringing the suit DOES NOT HAVE STANDING TO DO SO!
    4. I would NEVER EVER bring a lawyer into this. The majority of lawyers do not practice law. The simply follow protocol and prodedure.Their only concern is a paycheck, nothing else. They follow the direction of the court, not your best interest. Of course this is just my opinion.....

    And most importantly, do not be scared. You have a right to this information, even though the institutions will try and bully you into believing that you dont.

    I am not giving legal advice, just telling you what I would do if I had an outstnding mortgage. Challenge the system folks, and do not back down. The financial system in this country is tanking, and its all by design. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is bankrupt, but the CORPORATION is not. It is what is is folks, do your research....

    This post was edited by Topspin1 on 7/16/2012 at 10:41 AM

    Topspin1

  • love how you pay 400k back on borrowing 160k.... those fvcks

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    irishyoung

  • panic I hope MERS doesn't touch me.

    buttesnake

  • really sad state of affairs for sure no

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    shoeless7777

  • If you do these few things, you will learn for yourself what a fraudulent system it is. Be prepared to say WTF.....How can this be?

    Topspin1

  • buttesnake said...

    panic I hope MERS doesn't touch me.

    already has.....you should notice bumps soon whoa

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  • Topspin1 said...

    I have been in the courts for a few years fighting the banks, mortgage companies, mortgages holders etc. This is what I know to be true. ALL mortgages are fraudulent. The institutions have lied there way to megga riches. Everyone needs to hold them accountable. If MERS has touched your mortgage, its void on its face. Many mortgages in this country between 2000ish and 2010 where touched by MERS. They were found in a few state courts to have had an illegal business structure, with many more suits pending. The following are what I would do If I had an outstanding mortgage:

    1. Ask the lending company for the ORIGINAL "wet ink" mortgage document. They CAN NOT produce it as it is in Derivative Market "hell". In other words, the elite are gambling on your ability to pay it. Over and Over. And the derivative market is 700 TRILLION underwater..... 2. Ask your banker for the ORIGIN of the funds.You will be quite surprised at their unwillingness to give you any information. 3. If you are in forclosure or bankruptcy, understand that the group bringing the suit DOES NOT HAVE STANDING TO DO SO! 4. I would NEVER EVER bring a lawyer into this. The majority of lawyers do not practice law. The simply follow protocol and prodedure.Their only concern is a paycheck, nothing else. They follow the direction of the court, not your best interest. Of course this is just my opinion.....

    And most importantly, do not be scared. You have a right to this information, even though the institutions will try and bully you into believing that you dont.

    I am not giving legal advice, just telling you what I would do if I had an outstnding mortgage. Challenge the system folks, and do not back down. The financial system in this country is tanking, and its all by design. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is bankrupt, but the CORPORATION is not. It is what is is folks, do your research....

    There is a Prince in Nigeria that needs me to help him with a U.S. banking account. Wutcha think??

    WRobins

  • WRobins said...

    There is a Prince in Nigeria that needs me to help him with a U.S. banking account. Wutcha think??

    do it. its 100% real

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    irishyoung

  • bump , interesting shrug

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    shoeless7777

  • shoeless7777 said...

    interesting shrug

    agree

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  • Further....The funds that you receive for your "purchase" do not come from the bank, they originate from YOUR signature. This is why the banks do not sign the documents, they merely stamp the back, "for deposit only".....The ENTIRE FINANCIAL SYSTEM in this country is a fraud...Read HJR192 and HR1491 and you will learn that YOU are the asset behind our currency, the labor of the land, your labor. What do you think backs our currency, not gold, nor oil, its your labor.....Think about that, it makes us all slaves..We are under a contract that we did not knowingly agree to....and remember, CONTRACTS AND LANGUAGE is what its all about.....Hmmmm to that...Now go to your banks and hold them accountable. Ask them for your "wet ink" mortgage aggreement. When they cant produce it, file charges against them for fraud, and dont back down. How will they do in court, they will lose because they can not produce the original. Be aware as the judge will not cut you any slack as he works for the bankers, but he does have rules to follow. You can win in a state court, but forget federal courts as they are to corrupt and almost impossible to hold accountable. You also want the mortgage institution to show the ORIGIN of the funds....Have fun as you will be blown away if you start asking questions as your bankers will not be happy with you....

    Topspin1

  • So you think everyone should get to keep their houses for free? I'm not saying that the banking system doesn't have issues, but come on. This crap is ridiculous. You borrowed the money and agreed to pay it back. Period. I can't tell you how many people I've deposed who had lawyers making these arguments for them. When I ask if they knew about the interest charges/cost of the loan they say yes, they didn't care, they would have signed anything to get their house.

    FSULaura

  • Topspin1 said...

    I have been in the courts for a few years fighting the banks, mortgage companies, mortgages holders etc. This is what I know to be true. ALL mortgages are fraudulent. The institutions have lied there way to megga riches. Everyone needs to hold them accountable. If MERS has touched your mortgage, its void on its face. Many mortgages in this country between 2000ish and 2010 where touched by MERS. They were found in a few state courts to have had an illegal business structure, with many more suits pending. The following are what I would do If I had an outstanding mortgage:

    1. Ask the lending company for the ORIGINAL "wet ink" mortgage document. They CAN NOT produce it as it is in Derivative Market "hell". In other words, the elite are gambling on your ability to pay it. Over and Over. And the derivative market is 700 TRILLION underwater..... 2. Ask your banker for the ORIGIN of the funds.You will be quite surprised at their unwillingness to give you any information. 3. If you are in forclosure or bankruptcy, understand that the group bringing the suit DOES NOT HAVE STANDING TO DO SO! 4. I would NEVER EVER bring a lawyer into this. The majority of lawyers do not practice law. The simply follow protocol and prodedure.Their only concern is a paycheck, nothing else. They follow the direction of the court, not your best interest. Of course this is just my opinion.....

    And most importantly, do not be scared. You have a right to this information, even though the institutions will try and bully you into believing that you dont.

    I am not giving legal advice, just telling you what I would do if I had an outstnding mortgage. Challenge the system folks, and do not back down. The financial system in this country is tanking, and its all by design. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is bankrupt, but the CORPORATION is not. It is what is is folks, do your research....

    Won an appeal earlier this year on the very issue of standing. Plaintiff [which was a financial institution acting as Trustee for a Securitized Trust, BTW] didn't hold the Note at the time suit was initiated.

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  • 700 trillion? Pretty sure there is not 700 trillion dollars worth of wealth on planet Earth.

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • FSULaura said...

    So you think everyone should get to keep their houses for free? I'm not saying that the banking system doesn't have issues, but come on. This crap is ridiculous. You borrowed the money and agreed to pay it back. Period. I can't tell you how many people I've deposed who had lawyers making these arguments for them. When I ask if they knew about the interest charges/cost of the loan they say yes, they didn't care, they would have signed anything to get their house.

    You are missing the point Laura. The contract is void because it is fradulent. The American public has been lied to concerning mortgages since 1933. Please go back and read my posts. YOU generated the funds, not the bank. You need to understand the system. Its digital monies generated by your signature. I know its hard to understand, but we as Americans have been hosed, used, lied to....Its sad because now the system is broken and cannot be fixed so we the people will suffer and pay. We americans are not very smart people. The whole governmental/financial system is all phony. You just have to do your research and one day...POOF...you will get it...and boy will be be depressed, followed by anger, then a desire to hold them all accountable...

    Topspin1

  • MJRuffalo said...

    700 trillion? Pretty sure there is not 700 trillion dollars worth of wealth on planet Earth.

    I can assure you, that number is correct. But if you think that the debt of the United States is accurate, (it actually far exceeds the number given) then you will not believe this number. A number far more startling is the amount of profit the Federal Reserve has accumulated over the years. MASSIVE beyond most people abilty to understand....Or the Vaticans wealth...now thats a thought for another time....

    Topspin1

  • Topspin1 said...

    I can assure you, that number is correct. But if you think that the debt of the United States is accurate, (it actually far exceeds the number given) then you will not believe this number. A number far more startling is the amount of profit the Federal Reserve has accumulated over the years. MASSIVE beyond most people abilty to understand....Or the Vaticans wealth...now thats a thought for another time....

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that you are a big Alex Jones fan. Correct?

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that you are a big Alex Jones fan. Correct?

    I'm a big Glenn Beck fan, does that make me loco?

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that you are a big Alex Jones fan. Correct?

    Actually I do not watch or listen to him. My knowledge comes from my personnal experiences.

    Topspin1

  • So why did you challenge any of this? Did you default on a mortgage? Did you just get curious?

    I'm not sure what the issue is... the bank lends you the money, you buy the house, you pay back on the mortgage on an agreed interest rate and duration. The payback amount is clearly printed on the form that you sign. So what's the issue?

    Unless... you were dumb enough not to take out a fixed mortgage? It wasn't that, was it?

    getmyjive11

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  • OK, continue.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    So why did you challenge any of this? Did you default on a mortgage? Did you just get curious?

    I'm not sure what the issue is... the bank lends you the money, you buy the house, you pay back on the mortgage on an agreed interest rate and duration. The payback amount is clearly printed on the form that you sign. So what's the issue?

    Unless... you were dumb enough not to take out a fixed mortgage? It wasn't that, was it?

    Technically he has some points. The banks don't have the money to lend, so they are really not providing any consideration, and without that consideration the contract is null. Been argued in the past, but you need a pretty unique judge to get that one to fly.

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

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