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fsufsu said...
Obviously. It's the spineless pastors we discussed earlier that bring that upon the house of God. And you don't have quote godless. If someone lives their life with no regard and especially no defining belief in god are godless.
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fsufsu said...
Obviously. It's the spineless pastors we discussed earlier that bring that upon the house of God. And you don't have quote godless. If someone lives their life with no regard and especially no defining belief in god are godless.
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fsufsu said...
Why would they want to? Hey I don't believe in God but when I get married I want to do it in a house of God! Um what?
The standards of the church should preclude people who lack faith from taking vows in the church. That's obvious even for you. I understand folding under the awkwardness of when a Christian family has a godless member die and they want the funeral in the church. It's on the pastor for routinely saying the person who lived for themselves will be in heaven but I get it.
But when two people come to you and admit they don't believe the Bible then you point them to the court house.
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ConQueso™ said...
I'm on mobile or I'd link it, but the mayor of Newark had a great comment on this thought. Basically, he said that civil rights issues should never be put to a vote because civil rights are designed to protect minorities from majorities.
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fsufsu said...
Find a church of Epicurus. Listen, I'll back out so I don't "ruin" this thread but if you want to swear oaths in front of something higher than just yourselves and family. Make it something you believe in and will live for or you dishonor it.
If Epicurus says not to cheat on your wife and you intend to then Epicurus help you. lol
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Seeking4Truth said...
How does same-sex marriage relate to civil rights issues? African-Americans did not have a choice as to what color of skin they would have at birth. Women did not have a choice as to what gender they were born. Individuals with disabilities did not choose to have handicaps that would plague their lives with various obstacles.
Homosexuals make a choice, at some point in their lives, as to whether or not they are going to be attracted to the natural - biologically, physiologically, anatomically - opposite gender or the same gender. If they want to make the choice to love and live with the same sex then that is their choice. However, they should not be given the opportunity to force a state, federal government, or nation of people to redefine a historical, traditional aspect of life because of their choice.
If we let homosexuals redefine marriage then should we allow polygamists to redefine marriage? What if someone wants to marry their animal and sleep with it? What about sick and twisted individuals who want the choice to marry their daughters? At some point lines must be drawn to protect society from their misinformed and "progressive" choices. As a result, the post-modern relativist mindset of our nation will crumble every form of tradition that we have been founded on.
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BamaLivesFootba said...
A) marriage is a civil right--- the most basic of all actually (see Loving v Virginia )
B) There is no credible data that points to all non-heterosexual sexualities as a choice.
C) The government's definition of marriage is seperate from any religion's view on marriage. If one changes, it has no effect on the other. Moreover, the definition of marriage in the eyes of the government is strictly for civil purposes---statutory/regulatory/criminal/legal etc.
D) the most basic definition of marriage is between to consenting adults, therefore polygamy,beastiality,and incestuous marriage are impossibly and a logical fallacy
Anything else?
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Yes, marriage is a civil right. However, in a nation that upholds science as its all-powerful, empirical, absolute truth - homosexuality goes against all biological, anatomical, and physiological knowledge. Therefore, homosexuality is a purely psychological issue.
If the entire purpose of evolution is for change over time progressively evolving a species to a higher form - functionally - then how can you support homosexuality? Seriously?
Anal-sex is destructive to both the "giver" and "receiver". Homosexuals cannot participate in the advancement of mankind. They, by definition, are not the fittest in society. These are not my religious, biblical definitions. They are the scientific communities "truths" that they use to denigrate monotheism and all that it offers society.
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Yes, marriage is a civil right. However, in a nation that upholds science as its all-powerful, empirical, absolute truth - homosexuality goes against all biological, anatomical, and physiological knowledge. Therefore, homosexuality is a purely psychological issue.
If the entire purpose of evolution is for change over time progressively evolving a species to a higher form - functionally - then how can you support homosexuality? Seriously?
Anal-sex is destructive to both the "giver" and "receiver". Homosexuals cannot participate in the advancement of mankind. They, by definition, are not the fittest in society. These are not my religious, biblical definitions. They are the scientific communities "truths" that they use to denigrate monotheism and all that it offers society.
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Yes, marriage is a civil right. However, in a nation that upholds science as its all-powerful, empirical, absolute truth - homosexuality goes against all biological, anatomical, and physiological knowledge. Therefore, homosexuality is a purely psychological issue.
If the entire purpose of evolution is for change over time progressively evolving a species to a higher form - functionally - then how can you support homosexuality? Seriously?
Anal-sex is destructive to both the "giver" and "receiver". Homosexuals cannot participate in the advancement of mankind. They, by definition, are not the fittest in society. These are not my religious, biblical definitions. They are the scientific communities "truths" that they use to denigrate monotheism and all that it offers society.
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Seeking4Truth said...
Great! There are homosexual animals. I understand this. Yet, I hope you can understand that these homosexual animals, like their human counterparts, are incapable of reproducing and passing on their genetic material through heredity and the such.
Therefore, through logic and rationale thinking, the "gay" gene is another myth used to advance this backwards lifestyle. How could someone pass on a gay gene? Basic science in high school and undergraduate courses teach this. Eventually, gayness would phase out because of the lack of offspring due to being recessive.
Homosexuality is a choice. Denying same sex marriage is not against civil rights, because it is simply discriminating - yes, discriminating - between that which is right and that which is wrong. Marriage is historically and traditionally one man with one woman. If homosexuals want to have civil unions, fine. But don't bastardize the English language or tradition by hijacking something that does not belong to you.
That is offensive and the reason I have a problem with it. Don't make other people play by your rules if you choose to be different.
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Denying same sex marriage is not against civil rights, because it is simply discriminating - yes, discriminating - between that which is right and that which is wrong.Don't make other people play by your rules if you choose to be different
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BamaLivesFootba said...
You have a faulty understanding of evolution. It is not to change over time to become a higher form, it is change over time based on factors for change. It's all cause and reaction. Whether or not that leads to a "higher" form is irrelevant.
There is no truth to what you just posted. No data or scientifc conclusion.
You just made a mockery of the scientifc method in an effort of logical fallacy of appealing to authority (which you falsely did anyways).
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With all due respect, where am I misunderstanding and misapplying the theory of evolution? You say that evolution does not have the purpose of resulting in a higher form? Yes, causes and reactions are a vital part of the process. However, a more functionally, developed species is always the result. Is it not?
How then could a single cell organism, over time with chance, evolve and develop into the complex and intricate celled organisms that we are today?
The greatest scientists of our age defend this process and believe that, as we constantly evolve, our species develops into more intelligent organisms - anatomically, biologically, and physiologically.
If this is the case, then how can homosexuality logically fit into this framework? How can educated, rationale, and evolved creatures support something that does not contribute to evolutionary process? How can these people make a dichotomy between their social stances and the very process that has brought us to where we are today?
If this dichotomy is made it is the result of the bastardization of empirical and absolute truths either scientifically or religiously - whichever is used to defend your position.
This is the danger of post-modernism and relative reality. Our choices have consequences, and the consequences will not be beneficial.
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Truth Wins Out - Homosexuality is Not a Choice
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Sexual orientation, homosexuality and bisexuality
Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
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