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Matthew Stafford As The 14th-Best QB in The NFL:

  • Is Ron Jaworski nuts, or are we overrating Stafford?

    He finished in the top five in most statistical categories.
    Is Stafford's sample-size too small?

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  • Lol wut

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  • He said he wants to see him do it for more than one year.

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    MZizzle2

  • 14th? wtf? That's terrible.

    I understand him being injury prone but even so, he's still at the WORST top 7

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  • Who is ahead of him on the list

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  • FSU Bear said...

    Is Ron Jaworski nuts, or are we overrating Stafford?

    He finished in the top five in most statistical categories. Is Stafford's sample-size too small?

    99.9% of people who have played in the NFL are beyond useless at identifying talent.

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  • Rodgers
    Brady
    Manning
    Big Ben
    Rivers
    Manning
    Brees

    Second tier i think you have tossups between...

    Ryan
    Newton
    Stafford

    That is 10, so i have him top 10 unless im forgetting someone. My lists are in no order.

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  • Not injury prone, the OL just sucks.

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  • MarineMountie said...

    Rodgers Brady Manning Big Ben Rivers Manning Brees

    Second tier i think you have tossups between...

    Ryan Newton Stafford

    That is 10, so i have him top 10 unless im forgetting someone. My lists are in no order.

    He is better than Cam and Ryan has maxed out, for me he is no worse than 8.

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  • duvalnole said...

    Who is ahead of him on the list

    True but 5,000+ yard passing is no joke.

    He's already better than Matt Ryan.. No question.

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  • duvalnole said...

    Who is ahead of him on the list

    He's counting down from #30 to #1. So far he has:

    30. Tim Tebow
    29. Blaine Gabbert
    28. Christian Ponder
    27. Matt Flynn
    26. Matt Moore
    25. Kevin Kolb
    24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
    23. Mark Sanchez
    22. Matt Cassel
    21. Carson Palmer
    20. Sam Bradford
    19. Andy Dalton
    18. Matt Hasselbeck
    17. Josh Freeman
    16. Alex Smith
    15. Cam Newton
    14. Matthew Stafford
    13. Matt Schaub

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  • FSU Bear said...

    He's counting down from #30 to #1. So far he has:

    30. Tim Tebow 29. Blaine Gabbert 28. Christian Ponder 27. Matt Flynn 26. Matt Moore 25. Kevin Kolb 24. Ryan Fitzpatrick 23. Mark Sanchez 22. Matt Cassel 21. Carson Palmer 20. Sam Bradford 19. Andy Dalton 18. Matt Hasselbeck 17. Josh Freeman 16. Alex Smith 15. Cam Newton 14. Matthew Stafford 13. Matt Schaub

    Jaws has Matt Ryan ahead of Stafford. fail

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Rabid on 6/28/2012 at 2:55 PM

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  • FSU Bear said...

    He's counting down from #30 to #1. So far he has:

    30. Tim Tebow 29. Blaine Gabbert 28. Christian Ponder 27. Matt Flynn 26. Matt Moore 25. Kevin Kolb 24. Ryan Fitzpatrick 23. Mark Sanchez 22. Matt Cassel 21. Carson Palmer 20. Sam Bradford 19. Andy Dalton 18. Matt Hasselbeck 17. Josh Freeman 16. Alex Smith 15. Cam Newton 14. Matthew Stafford 13. Matt Schaub

    Sanchez should be #27.

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    Hey Trojans, LSU's 74 are better than your 75.

    UChucky161861

  • putting Stafford outside of the top 5 is hard to do but you can come up with ways to justify it, but 14? Jaws sucks and always has and i dont understand the infatuation with him

    Currently
    1 - Rodgers
    2 - Brady
    3 - Brees
    4 - Stafford
    5 - Eli

    If you want to make the super bowl argument, you can do this
    1 - Rodgers
    2 - Brady
    3 - Brees
    4 - Eli
    5 - Roethlisberger
    6 - Stafford

    but who the hell can you put in front of him to get to 14?

    here are the people in the top half of the league in passer rating last year

    Romo? no
    Schaub - no
    Matt ryan - no
    Alex Smith - no
    Rivers - maybe because of longevity so far
    matt moore - please
    Cutler - no
    Vick - no
    Newton - no
    Hasselbeck - no
    kolb - no
    flacco - no
    palmer - no
    dalton - no

    THATS THE TOP 20 IN PASSER RATING!! which of those would you put above Stafford?

    and why wouldnt he go ballistic again??? he has a damn good offense up there with great weapons

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  • U-Chucky said...

    99.9% of people who have played in the NFL are beyond useless at identifying talent.

    And Jaws is their poster child.

    Nicolae

  • Nicolae said...

    And Jaws is their poster child.

    Always need a middle aged white guy as a front. I like Dilfer better but he can't stop letting his emotions cloud his judgement.

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    Hey Trojans, LSU's 74 are better than your 75.

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  • msudawg12 said...

    putting Stafford outside of the top 5 is hard to do but you can come up with ways to justify it, but 14? Jaws sucks and always has and i dont understand the infatuation with him

    Currently 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady 3 - Brees 4 - Stafford 5 - Eli

    If you want to make the super bowl argument, you can do this 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady 3 - Brees 4 - Eli 5 - Roethlisberger 6 - Stafford

    but who the hell can you put in front of him to get to 14?

    here are the people in the top half of the league in passer rating last year

    Romo? no Schaub - no Matt ryan - no Alex Smith - no Rivers - maybe because of longevity so far matt moore - please Cutler - no Vick - no Newton - no Hasselbeck - no kolb - no flacco - no palmer - no dalton - no

    THATS THE TOP 20 IN PASSER RATING!! which of those would you put above Stafford?

    and why wouldnt he go ballistic again??? he has a damn good offense up there with great weapons

    You forgot Peyton.

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  • FSU Bear said...

    You forgot Peyton.

    Looks like the rest of his list is some ordering of these guys as best I can guess:

    Brady
    Brees
    Peyton M.
    Eli M.
    Ryan
    Rodgers
    Rivers
    Big Ben
    Vick
    Flacco
    Romo
    Schaub
    Cutler

    Nicolae

  • Lesticals said...

    True but 5,000+ yard passing is no joke.

    He's already better than Matt Ryan.. No question.

    Did you mean to quote me, because I did not say anything about Ryan. Also both Ryan and Stafford have choked in some big games like the playoffs or how about Thanksgiving against the packers.

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  • Remember stafford is throwing to the best receiver in the league ( could argue Andre Johnson)

    But stafford is not top 5. If you were a GM would you take him over:
    Rogers
    Brady
    Brees
    Manning
    Manning
    Big Ben
    Rivers
    Romo
    Vick

    blockmaster

  • blockmaster said...

    Remember stafford is throwing to the best receiver in the league ( could argue Andre Johnson)

    But stafford is not top 5. If you were a GM would you take him over: Rogers Brady Brees Manning Manning Big Ben Rivers Romo Vick

    Big Ben
    Rivers
    Romo
    Vick

    Yes, absolutely. Probably over Eli too. If Matt had any sort of OL at all since he has been in the league, he would be far more impressive.

    Nicolae

  • blockmaster said...

    Remember stafford is throwing to the best receiver in the league ( could argue Andre Johnson)

    But stafford is not top 5. If you were a GM would you take him over: Rogers Brady Brees Manning Manning Big Ben Rivers Romo Vick

    He does have the best WR in the game, but he also has a pretty awful OL.

    If I'm a GM, there's no way I take Romo or Vick over Stafford.

    This post was edited by FSU BearFSUx0 on 6/28/2012 at 3:29 PM

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  • FSU Bear said...

    You forgot Peyton.

    no i didnt

    as i stated, i pulled the list from passer rating from last year

    and i dont know how to rate peyton and no one else does either. we have no idea what we will get back from peyton healthwise or in an entirely new system

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  • msudawg12 said...

    no i didnt

    as i stated, i pulled the list from passer rating from last year

    and i dont know how to rate peyton and no one else does either. we have no idea what we will get back from peyton healthwise or in an entirely new system

    So what??? Passer Rating is a seriously misleading statistic.

    “in rare cases” a quarterback will have a rating over 100. In 2010 alone, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers and Michael Vick all accomplished this feat and ended with ratings of over 100 for the season.

    Guess who just missed the 100 ranking with a Passer Rating of 98.64... Vince Young. I doubt many teams fought hard to bring him aboard the next season as a starter.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by FSU BearFSUx0 on 6/28/2012 at 3:36 PM

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  • msudawg12 said...

    putting Stafford outside of the top 5 is hard to do but you can come up with ways to justify it, but 14? Jaws sucks and always has and i dont understand the infatuation with him

    Currently 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady 3 - Brees 4 - Stafford 5 - Eli

    If you want to make the super bowl argument, you can do this 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady 3 - Brees 4 - Eli 5 - Roethlisberger 6 - Stafford

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    This is the most logical way of looking at it. Jaws didn't do this because he wanted people to talk about his shitty rankings, mission accomplished.

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