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Lol @ the butthurt from SCw fans...

Long live Paul Dee

All I know is if they give us much more trouble, Miami will finally have themselves a nice little start to funding a stadium. I'd say $50 million'ish.

No, that ain't quite it.

They are the guy that got arrested for robbing 5 banks. They screwed up one of the arrest, so he is only being charged with robbing 4 of the banks. 80% of the evidence remains. That is a more accurate analogy.

The basis is the economic impact that it has on PA. Now before you say "oh, well all sanctions have an impact", the arguement is that there was no NCAA bylaw that was violated in the Penn State case. That cannot be said for any other case against the NCAA. So the state is attacking the NCAA on anti-trust issues. Being a monopoly, the NCAA needs to act in a manner that is without predujice and also without abusing their power. They have failed in both regards. No program was ever threatened with a multi-year death penalty for anything let alone something that did not break NCAA bylaws. Emmert and the NCAA can claim that this went against their "morality clause" all they want, but the fact of the matter is, they have never punished an organization for this. Not Baylor when their coach covered up murder. Not Washington with their coach covered up rape. Not Notre Dame when their players harrased a rape victim to the point where she killed herself. Nor should they... that is for the courts to decide, not the NCAA.

There has been slander for two and a half years. They funded an attorney to break both federal & NCAA laws. They've cost Miami $20 million in bowl games. The amount total is way higher than that in ticket sales, donations, etc.. Using rogue investigators & burner phones is the icing on the cake. This is a textbook lawsuit case.

You have to add that the informant was a felon sitting in jail for running a Ponzi scheme through the 5 banks

You assume much in your statement. If the NCAA were trying to get more nails in the Miami coffin, they lost some nails, but that does not mean 80% of their evidence is soft.
They may have simply lost more nails that they had at their disposal.

Yeah, I am sure Miami will challenge the penalities, if they are more than the self imposed penalties. With due diligence, any program would do that. The question is: at what point does Miami just accept the penalty and move on? The longer it looms uncertain, the longer it hurts your program.

Back when the NCAA hit FSU, when FSU had already self-imposed/fired/removed those then, AND got the blessing of the NCAA & ACC, FSU fans were screaming for someone to look into the hypocrisy that is the NCAA. No one disputes the NCAA is awfully managed, but I am not sure how Miami can say it should skate either (if evidence is confirmed).

MOAR

You serious? 20 million? Ur barely a .500 team, ur not gonna get into major bowls. Even then that money is shared throughout the conference.

They haven't slandered miami or even imposed any penalties. You can blame them for self imposed penalties based on ur university's investigation.

They havent done anything to miami. Theyve only flubbed their own investigation and made some of the info inadmissible.

Math isn't your strong point.

Umm... all those other cases were specifically about "avoiding issues with football (or basketball for Baylor)". It doesn't matter "what they are trying to stop", they have never acted upon their morality clause. Ever. The problem with that is that monopolies are held to much higher standards in the court of law than are other private organizations. Basically, you cannot pick and choose... if you have a rule you need to consistently enforce it, or it is seen in a negative light in the courts, especially when you NEVER enforce it.

You are incorrect with your last statement as the anti-trust lawsuit that they lost to Oklahoma has proved.

I'm not trying to bash miami but what are you talking about? You are pretty much a .500 team the past couple years. That means you barely squeeze into a horrible bowl if yiu eveb get into one.

20 mil is isn't what ur getting....