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Braintrust said...
Hoke didn't suspend Stonum, he redshirted him
"While it would be great to have Darryl on the field this season, we feel it is in his best interest and the best interest of our program for him to redshirt,"
Meaning he was on the sidelines and travelled with the team, including to NOLA for the sugar bowl. Oh man what a harsh punishment
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Braintrust said...
Hoke didn't suspend Stonum, he redshirted him
"While it would be great to have Darryl on the field this season, we feel it is in his best interest and the best interest of our program for him to redshirt,"
Meaning he was on the sidelines and travelled with the team, including to NOLA for the sugar bowl. Oh man what a harsh punishment
This post was edited by WingedHelmet on 8/4/2012 at 2:31 PM
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Tjones826 said...
Thanks to all Michigan fans for responding. Im a huge bama fan down here in Birmingham and hope we win but know that Michigan is a damn fine team with a great coach and are hungry and have something to prove to everyone!
I hope its a great game and may the best team win! Goodluck to you guys and please kick the shit out of Urban Meyer and worthless buckeyes! Damn they suck ass!
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maize&blue21 said...
Stoning didn't play a down under Hoke, he was suspended for the season after his third offense and kicked off the team after his fourth offense. Don't know what you are getting at.
I think people just wonder how he was allowed four offenses to begin with, considering how sanctimonious you guys are when it comes to discipline and doing things the "right way." If Stonum was at MSU, your fan base would have trashed Dantonio and called for Stonum to be booted after his second transgression, and you know it. But because he played for Michigan, you guys rationalize and justify Hoke's actions. But, that is typical of most fans, I guess. We are knee-jerk stone-throwers when it comes to other programs, but are fair and careful analysts when it comes to our own.
Personally, I couldn't care less how Hoke handles disciplinary matters. I don't envy the position that he's in with the Touissant decision, and no matter what he chooses to do, he's going to piss somebody off. I think at the end of the day most coaches try to make decisions that are in the best interest of the offending player as well as their team/program. If you want to believe Hoke is the only guy in the business who's 100% pure and holy, fine. Go nuts about that.
People want to deride Tom Izzo over Derrick Nix, yet won't bring up the fact he booted two key players (Allen and Lucious) off his team, which is not something you will see at most major/successful programs. Every situation is different and should be handled accordingly. We as fans cannot pretend to know what is right and what is wrong in the handling of matters that we are not close to.
Anyway, you'd think this stuff would teach programs not to schedule big games in week 1. It's a long off-season and with so many guys on your roster, somebody is bound to screw up and do something stupid. Better to sit them out against Eastern Michigan than Alabama.
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JEK said...
I think people just wonder how he was allowed four offenses to begin with, considering how sanctimonious you guys are when it comes to discipline and doing things the "right way." If Stonum was at MSU, your fan base would have trashed Dantonio and called for Stonum to be booted after his second transgression, and you know it. But because he played for Michigan, you guys rationalize and justify Hoke's actions. But, that is typical of most fans, I guess.
Personally, I couldn't care less how Hoke handles disciplinary matters. I don't envy the position that he's in with the Touissant decision, and no matter what he chooses to do, he's going to piss somebody off. I think at the end of the day most coaches try to make decisions that are in the best interest of the offending player as well as their team/program. If you want to believe Hoke is the only guy in the business who's 100% pure and holy, fine. Go nuts about that.
People want to deride Tom Izzo over Derrick Nix, yet won't bring up the fact he booted two key players (Allen and Lucious) off his team, which is not something you will see at most major/successful programs. Every situation is different and should be handled accordingly. We as fans cannot pretend to know what is right and what is wrong in the handling of matters that we are not close to.
Anyway, you'd think this stuff would teach programs not to schedule big games in week 1. It's a long off-season and with so many guys on your roster, somebody is bound to screw up and do something stupid. Better to sit them out for Eastern Michigan than of Alabama.
This post was edited by BennyG34 on 8/4/2012 at 5:10 PM
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JEK said...
I think people just wonder how he was allowed four offenses to begin with, considering how sanctimonious you guys are when it comes to discipline and doing things the "right way." If Stonum was at MSU, your fan base would have trashed Dantonio and called for Stonum to be booted after his second transgression, and you know it. But because he played for Michigan, you guys rationalize and justify Hoke's actions. But, that is typical of most fans, I guess. We are knee-jerk stone-throwers when it comes to other programs, but are fair and careful analysts when it comes to our own.
Personally, I couldn't care less how Hoke handles disciplinary matters. I don't envy the position that he's in with the Touissant decision, and no matter what he chooses to do, he's going to piss somebody off. I think at the end of the day most coaches try to make decisions that are in the best interest of the offending player as well as their team/program. If you want to believe Hoke is the only guy in the business who's 100% pure and holy, fine. Go nuts about that.
People want to deride Tom Izzo over Derrick Nix, yet won't bring up the fact he booted two key players (Allen and Lucious) off his team, which is not something you will see at most major/successful programs. Every situation is different and should be handled accordingly. We as fans cannot pretend to know what is right and what is wrong in the handling of matters that we are not close to.
Anyway, you'd think this stuff would teach programs not to schedule big games in week 1. It's a long off-season and with so many guys on your roster, somebody is bound to screw up and do something stupid. Better to sit them out against Eastern Michigan than Alabama.
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maize&blue21 said...
Well he had two under RR, where I believe he was suspended, then he had his third offense under Hoke who suspended him for the season and told him he needed to do certain things to play his senior season, lastly the fourth offense occurred and he was kicked off the team.
See, this is exactly what I was talking about.
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JEK said...
So the message here is that it's okay to fuck up multiple times as long as said fuckups are evenly distributed amongst different coaches. Got it.
Look, you're not getting my point. I'm aware of the timeline of events. I'm not saying I have a problem with the way Hoke handled Stonum, I'm saying I have a problem with self-righteous fans who clearly don't analyze situations at other programs in the same fair and precise manner as they do their own.
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JEK said...
So the message here is that it's okay to fuck up multiple times as long as said fuckups are evenly distributed amongst different coaches. Got it.
Look, you're not getting my point. I'm aware of the timeline of events. I'm not saying I have a problem with the way Hoke handled Stonum, I'm saying I have a problem with self-righteous fans who clearly don't analyze situations at other programs in the same fair and precise manner as they do their own.
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