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  • Hello...Jerry said...

    This is from some insider on Northwestern's TOS board, fwiw:

    Today was a very busy day in Park Ridge. For the Big Ten, the writing has been on the wall: we're going to 16-team super-conferences.

    Invitations to join the conference remain in the hands of the appropriate parties at Notre Dame and Texas. The Big Ten believes that Notre Dame will join once Texas joins the conference. Texas wishes to join the Big Ten with its Longhorn Network, as a non-participant in the Big Ten Network. This scenario remains feasible.

    The Big Ten is now operating under the presumption that A&M currently plans to leave the Big XII for the SEC. However, there is haste to consider an invitation to A&M immediately. The message to A&M has not yet been met with adequate response by the relevant parties at A&M. Though an invitation has not been settled upon, one likely will soon be forthcoming to Texas A&M. The Chancellors and Presidents have a conference scheduled to give provisional approval to invite A&M to the conference. It is expected that the Big Ten Chancellors and Presidents will find that A&M would add a unique level of tradition and academic prestige to the conference.

    Separately, A&M stands to benefit the most from joining the Big Ten conference. In particular, A&M would reap the benefits from the Big Ten Network - which Park Ridge thinks would vastly outweigh the benefits that A&M would receive from the SEC. In particular, the Big Ten Network's reach is and likely always will capture a vastly wider audience than the Longhorn Network, and with A&M's addition to the Big Ten, will include the geographic footprint of the entire state of Texas.

    With regard to the benefits A&M stands to gain from Big Ten membership, the Big Ten feels that the Big Ten Network would obviously more than offset the competition for eyeballs of recruits in the state of Texas from the Longhorn Network. The terms of the offer given to Texas include the right for Texas to maintain and independently operate the Longhorn Network, and thus not share in the financial benefit of the BTN. (Texas would receive equal voting rights and treatment in all other operations and activities of the conference aside from participation in the BTN.)

    If A&M left the Big XII for the SEC, the Big Ten believes that the resulting political circumstances in the state of Texas would enable the University of Texas to leave the Big XII to join the Big Ten conference, regardless of the decisions made by the other Texas universities (with regard to the Big XII conference).

    The Big Ten is actively pursuing the relevant parties at A&M and expanding discussions. This week, for the first time since the conference explored expansion possibilities, the notion that Texas and Texas A&M could join the Big Ten instead of Texas and Notre Dame as members 13 and 14 were openly considered. In such circumstances, the Big Ten believes that once Texas and Texas A&M join the conference, Notre Dame almost certainly would immediately follow, and several universities are in consideration for the sixteenth member, as I mentioned on the Rock. Should Texas and Texas A&M commit simultaneously to the Big Ten, the Big Ten expects to jointly announce the addition of four teams total to create a 16 team conference shortly thereafter.

    We're currently in a period of acceleration of activity much like that which came before the invitation extended to Nebraska. The Big Ten seems poised to act immediately if A&M responds to certain overtures.

    This post was edited on 8/10 10:44 PM by PURPLE Book Cat

    This makes no sense. Actually, it sounds like an idea concocted by UT to find a way to get the B10 to let them join without dropping the LHN. If UT joins the B10 without A&M and retains the LHN, how does that help the B10 get the BTN into the State of Texas? It doesn't. But if A&M comes along, then A&M helps the B10 get the BTN into the State of Texas. But why would A&M pull out of the B12 to get away from UT and LHN only to follow them to the B10? It doesn't make sense. A&M wants to go to the SEC. They fit better culturally and geographically in the SEC. UT might have convinced the B10 to extend an invitation to A&M, but I do not see why A&M would accept.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 8/12/2011 at 1:56 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    This makes no sense. Actually, it sounds like an idea concocted by UT to find a way to get the B10 to let them join without dropping the LHN. If UT joins the B10 without A&M and retains the LHN, how does that help the B10 get the BTN into the State of Texas? It doesn't. But if A&M comes along, then A&M helps the B!) get the BTN into the State of Texas. But why would A&M pull out of the B12 to get away from UT and LHN only to follow them to the B10? It doesn't make sense. A&M wants to go to the SEC. They fit better culturally and geographically in the SEC. UT might have convinced the B10 to extend an invitation to A&M, but I do not see why A&M would accept.

    Believe A&M wants to get away from UT and like you said would be a much better fit in the SEC.

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  • Scooter, Tusks, or whoever has been downvoting me for the past few days: please chill out. I save my downvotes exclusively for trolls, so I'm hoping that this isn't Hall of Fame BS. If it's not, we're probably getting invaded again, soon.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ScoutExile on 8/12/2011 at 2:10 AM

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  • I went through and upvoted some of your posts Exile to help offset the downvotes.

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  • ScoutExile said...

    Scooter, Tusks, or whoever has been downvoting me for the past few days: please chill out. I save my downvotes exclusively for trolls, so I'm hoping that this isn't Hall of Fame BS. If it's not, we're probably getting invaded again, soon.

    Who took Niles Davis in our leagues? He is done for the year.

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  • star69 said...

    Who took Niles Davis in our leagues? He is done for the year.

    Marine Mountie roflmao

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  • Reeves will be announcing shortly. I'm not expecting anything here, I just thought I'd throw it out there.

    buttesnake

  • buttesnake said...

    Reeves will be announcing shortly. I'm not expecting anything here, I just thought I'd throw it out there.

    Yeah, it sucks that he's all PSU.

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    Go Blue & Gig Em'!

    TAMUWolverine

  • coffee mornin'. Too bad Reeves won't be coming. Sounds like we'll have to wait for our next commit for a while grumble

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    Yeah, it sucks that he's all PSU.

    Yuri come on down, please.

    Larry Johnson has done a great job on the recruiting trail lately.

    Michmania

  • ScoutExile said...

    New Yorkers don't really watch college football and that's what they said about Penn State-Pitt, too.

    no too many pro teams but think outside of football, they have great college basketball, which everyone follows and if they come to the big ten then syracuse becomes a good job to have and it will attract big name coaches which will start a market for college football

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  • From the other thread

    Which Ohioans currently outside the Top247 have the best chance of moving in? Also, which Ohioans currently in the Top247 have the best chance to move up?

    Taylor Decker is a guy on the outside looking in. So is Michigan LB commit Joe Bolden and Wolverines DE pledge Pharaoh Brown. After that WR Monty Madaris and QB Tyler O'Connor are solid four-stars.

    This post was edited by Michmania on 8/12/2011 at 9:37 AM

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  • Michmania said...

    Yuri come on down, please.

    Larry Johnson has done a great job on the recruiting trail lately.

    We need to get him in for an official visit. I wish we would take 28 in this class.

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  • Michmania said...

    Which Ohioans currently outside the Top247 have the best chance of moving in? Also, which Ohioans currently in the Top247 have the best chance to move up?

    Taylor Decker is a guy on the outside looking in. So is Michigan LB commit Joe Bolden and Wolverines DE pledge Pharaoh Brown. After that WR Monty Madaris and QB Tyler O'Connor are solid four-stars.

    If Ringer has a solid season he could move up. We have a lot of borderline 4* types.

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    We need to get him in for an official visit. I wish we would take 28 in this class.

    I think we have a good shot at Yuri. And Reeves to PSU, well, it's nice to see him stay in the B10 and at least this way he can reek some havoc on OSU for a few years. How nice would it be to watch OSU go through a 4-5 year stretch where they come in 2nd or 3rd in the B10 East and can't even make it to the B10 CCG? GO BLUE!!!

    WingedHelmet

  • Michmania said...

    Yuri come on down, please.

    Larry Johnson has done a great job on the recruiting trail lately.

    I think Michigan has a really good shot with Yuri Wright. He has only named one official visit for sure so far and that is Michigan. I just hope he announces sooner than one of the All - American games.

    HelloHeisman 21

  • star69 said...

    Who took Niles Davis in our leagues? He is done for the year.

    Yea I took Davis in the Michigan league. bangheadsigncurse

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  • Ondre Pipkins talks about his Michigan roots.

    Michigan football commit Ondre Pipkins: Saginaw is "always going to be home"

    Pipkins moved from Saginaw at age six, and is returning to his home state to play college football

    www.mlive.com

    buttesnake

  • HelloHeisman 21 said...

    I think Michigan has a really good shot with Yuri Wright. He has only named one official visit for sure so far and that is Michigan. I just hope he announces sooner than one of the All - American games.


    He also named Georgia as a school that he is going to take an Official Visit to for sure as well. That being said, I do like our chances as it stands right now.

    theyellow_dup

  • Michmania said...

    Yuri come on down, please.

    Larry Johnson has done a great job on the recruiting trail lately.

    Not just lately, I'm from the DC area, and he has always cleaned up in Maryland. I know Reeves isn't from there, but Johnson's been a killer recruiter for a long time. One of my big hopes when rumors were circulating that Paterno was on the way out a few years back was that Johnson and Bradley would go somewhere else. Always figured losing those two would gut the program.

    This post was edited by CVille Blue75837 on 8/12/2011 at 10:14 AM

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  • C-Ville Blue said...

    Not just lately, I'm from the DC area, and he has always cleaned up in Maryland. I know Reeves isn't from there, but Johnson's been a killer recruiter for a long time. One of my big hopes when rumors were circulating that Paterno was on the way out a few years back was that Johnson and Bradley would go somewhere else. Always figured losing those two would gut the program.

    Bradley may have been in line to take over as HC when Joe is gone, but I don't think that's true anymore. Indications are that he'll leave to go elsewhere (though should at least get a token interview), and that LJ Sr. will retire. LJ was always great at relating to kids, and without him I shudder to think of how awful our recruiting classes would be, especially since our HC and OC don't recruit.

    And yes, LJ has a lot of ties to the MD/VA/DC area. Mike London has poached a lot of our targets as of late, though, so I think he's helped out significantly in other areas.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Bradley may have been in line to take over as HC when Joe is gone, but I don't think that's true anymore. Indications are that he'll leave to go elsewhere (though should at least get a token interview), and that LJ Sr. will retire. LJ was always great at relating to kids, and without him I shudder to think of how awful our recruiting classes would be, especially since our HC and OC don't recruit.

    And yes, LJ has a lot of ties to the MD/VA/DC area. Mike London has poached a lot of our targets as of late, though, so I think he's helped out significantly in other areas.

    Yeah, it's been bizarre to me that the rumors (and you'd know better than me) have started to be that when JoePa's gone y'all are just going to clean house and bring someone completely new in. I guess so the AD can put his stamp on the program, or the regents can get back at JoePa for not going quietly into the night when they wanted him to? Who knows, but the level of loyalty Bradley showed by not going after the Pitt job this past off season was unbelievable to me. Could be a tumultuous few years in happy valley, but for now you guys are definitely killing it on the recruiting trail, not at our level, but still, who is these days...

    CVille Blue75837

  • Rich Rod to PSU?

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  • C-Ville Blue said...

    Yeah, it's been bizarre to me that the rumors (and you'd know better than me) have started to be that when JoePa's gone y'all are just going to clean house and bring someone completely new in. I guess so the AD can put his stamp on the program, or the regents can get back at JoePa for not going quietly into the night when they wanted him to? Who knows, but the level of loyalty Bradley showed by not going after the Pitt job this past off season was unbelievable to me. Could be a tumultuous few years in happy valley, but for now you guys are definitely killing it on the recruiting trail, not at our level, but still, who is these days...

    I don't know if it was loyalty that kept Bradley in Happy Valley.

    And yes, indications are that PSU will be cleaning house and going outside of not only the program, but also the "PSU family" to get a new coach and staff. If you look at what PSU has done in a number of other sports recently, that's exactly what's happened. And the "name" value of coach simply depends on how much boosters are willing to pay for that sport - in football I can guarantee there will be a lot of money available.

    As examples, PSU spent a $5m bonus to get Cael Sanderson away from his alma mater to coach wrestling. I believe the men's lacrosse coach is from annual powerhouse Cornell, the new hockey coach from Princeton and a decently big name, and of course Russ Rose was the guy who put the idea in the department's head to do this. His enormous amount of success in women's volleyball really started those wheels turning.

    It may be wishful thinking on the part of the PSU fans, and it sounds ludicrous to any non-PSU fan, but Urban Meyer's name has come up as a distinct possibility as our next coach.

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  • Maize&Blue said...

    I went through and upvoted some of your posts Exile to help offset the downvotes.

    Thanks man.

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