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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
No, you can't be King of the blue bloods
when you have a losing record against other blue bloods.Alabama is
1-7-1 vs Texas
2-5 vs ND
1-2-1 vs Oklahoma
2-2 vs Michigan
5-2 vs USC
3-0 vs Ohio St
3-2 vs NebAlabama is 17-20-2 vs the other 7
That's smoke n mirrors, not royalty
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FortWorthTide said...
Well that looks to me like Alabama has a strong winning record against USC and OSU, up 1 on NEB, tied with Michigan and down 1 against OU. Yes we're down to Texas and ND, but over the course of history if you've only played 9 and 7 games against an opponent respectively, sometimes the numbers will fall that way. Considering we have beaten both of those teams for NCs during a dynasty run, I think we've still got a great argument for the king blue blood. USC has the same losing record against us as we do against ND.... So I guess you can't claim it either by your logic.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
USC over the last 50 years (1963-2012) vs Alabama 2-3 Michigan 6-1 Nebraska 3-0-1 Notre Dame 25-22-3 Oklahoma 6-2-1 Texas 2-1 Ohio St 9-3 ============= 53-32-3 (62%) 28-10-2 (73%) (no ND, just games vs the other 6)
Sorry, but the logic I'm talking about is over the last 50 years USC has been the best, against the best.
True, all-time USC does have a losing record to ND, but SC is still is about 7/8 games over.500 vs the 7 other blue bloods with around 60 wins.
A little shorter time frame The last 20 years (1993-2012) =========== 19-8-1 (70%) 7-1 vs blue bloods other than ND
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FortWorthTide said...
Those numbers look great for sure. However, you conveniently quoted only half of my post. The second half about how the numbers against other blue bloods are skewed was cut out. Alabama has played by far the fewest games against the top 8 because the other teams in the group all have at least one rival (and as you pointed out, USC has a losing record against their biggest one). Alabama, on the other hand, played by far the highest number of games (almost double USC's) against the top 14 teams (and it finally gives us a rival or two in the group - seems only fair). 1-8 are undisputed (the group we've referenced in this thread). Teams 9-14 all time using CFB Data Warehouse are LSU, Tenn, GA, FLA, Miami, and Auburn. Alabama has a winning record against all of the Big 6 SEC teams, effectively preventing any of them from getting higher than the #9 spot.
This post was edited by FortWorthTide on 3/20/2013 at 11:11 AM
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Rabid said...
These questions you're asking are dumb because eleven NCs and being #1 in all time wins/winning % get us in alone. Doesn't matter the time period. It happened, it counts. Nice try AZ, but Michigan is a blue blood no matter how much you try to think we aren't.
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FortWorthTide said...
Those numbers look great for sure. However, you conveniently quoted only half of my post. The second half about how the numbers against other blue bloods are skewed was cut out. Alabama has played by far the fewest games against the top 8 because the other teams in the group all have at least one rival (and as you pointed out, USC has a losing record against their biggest one). Alabama, on the other hand, played by far the highest number of games (almost double USC's) against the top 14 teams (and it finally gives us a rival or two in the group - seems only fair). 1-8 are undisputed (the group we've referenced in this thread). Teams 9-14 all time using CFB Data Warehouse are LSU, Tenn, GA, FLA, Miami, and Auburn. Alabama has a winning record against all of the Big 6 SEC teams, effectively preventing any of them from getting higher than the #9 spot.
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FortWorthTide said...
And by the way, the first ranked Pac 12 team after USC is Washington at #20. That's pathetic.
Pac 12 - 2 top 20 teams all time Big 12 - 2 Big 10 - 5 (and that's if you are willing to give them Minnesota) SEC - 7 (with Arkansas at #21 which would make 8)
So basically your conference plays among the worst collection of all time teams, your only big time rival owns you all-time, etc.
Doesn't make SC look so tough (especially for you Assassin, since you're all about schedule strength). Looks like the SC schedule strength is the weakest.
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BetterOff said...
That has lost to each of the other 7 bluebloods in their last head to head meeting.
and
That has only 1 National Championship in the last 65 years (which was split with a more deserving Nebraska team).
When does membership get pulled?
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
No doubt Alabama historically is the best team by far, out of all the teams in the south.
But it's Bama's mediocre record when they were not playing those teams from the south that raises the question of how good they have been from an all-time perspective (I'm not questioning how good they have been the past 5 years).
This post was edited by FortWorthTide on 3/20/2013 at 11:33 AM
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Michigan is the only blueblood......