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I mean yeah, but he isn't the first to say this.... el oh el

Pretty much

Most have long realized religion was created by man as a guide for society to live by

Anything else is unproveable

Totally agree with RATT and Yourself. Have to die to know what happens and also have to have been alive long long ago to be able to know if the miracles the bible preaches really happened. Either way i'm sure you guys know that you can't definatively state that religion was created by man as a guide for society to live by since you don't have anything to go off of. Btw have any of you guys ever read some of the fubared shit that happens in the bible. It starts off as a horror story and doesn't get a ton better lol

Actually he has a point. It's not a question on whether Jesus Christ or Muhammad existed it's whether or not they were prophets. Every religion is based on some form of teaching. I guess we will all know soon enough who is right if anyone.

The real question isn't whether or not we can know what happens after death. The real question is whether or not you believe in God, and then, in which God you believe. For instance, some of the world's gods teach exactly what happens after death. If you believe that God knows what happens after death, and that He teaches us what happens, then it's not silly to say you know what happens. The real trick is what god you believe in.

If we don't know everything, then how can we know anything? If you believe in the God who knows everything then knowing the specifics of death isn't difficult. If you don't believe in an omnipotent God then how can you aver on anything?

Please don't use the words factual and historical when talking about the bible. Thanks.

My point is that it's just as intellectually questionable to say you can't know what happens after death as it is to say you can know. Certainly personal experience teaches soemthing that cannot be known by reading a book. However, reading about something or being told by someone else with experience can tell you a lot of things. So, my point is that the real question is what you believe regarding the forces/beings that are greater than we (e.g God). If you believe in the biblical God, for example, than you naturally believe that you can know what happens after death. So again, the real question is what you believe about God.

Wait, I want to make sure i understand you. Are you saying it's fictional b/c it was written by men (b/c men only write fictional stories)? Certainly the pen to paper was done by men, but that, in and of itself doesn't make it fiction. If you want to say that it's not God's word, and therefore fiction in some of its claims then we can debate that. But please, don't waste my time with shallow ("I Just don't want there to be a god or i'm too smart for there to be a god") arguments that I often hear. Tell me why there isn't a God and why he didn't write the Bible, for instance.

Pretty much sums up the ingenious theory of evolution.

Men wrote the book, men are not infallible, therefore the book is not inerrant.

The bible and most other religious documents post-polytheism are unique in that unlike most fictional events of probatively false occurrences, the events themselves are proposed to have occurred via divinity, therefore making them possible.

But like I said, because it is proposed to be true doesn't make it so.

One can believe in anything and that can be independent or dependent of probative value, but when it's independent it's called faith, when it's the latter it's not.

I also saw Freeman say that the reason Obama's approval rating is below 50% was due to racism