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Matthew Stafford (Highland Park, Dallas, Texas) QB
Chase Daniel (Carroll, Southlake, Texas) QB
Jeff Byers (Loveland, Colo.) OL-DL
Vince Young (Madison, Houston, Texas) QB
Cedric Benson (Robert E. Lee, Midland, Texas) RB
Travis Henry (Frostproof, Fla.) RB
Tim Couch (Leslie County, Hyden, Ky.) QB
Peyton Manning (Newman, New Orleans, La.) QB
Derrick Brooks (Washington, Pensacola, Fla.) LB
Robert Smith (Euclid, Ohio) RB
Emmitt Smith (Escambia, Pensacola, Fla.) RB
Jeff George (Warren Central, Indianapolis Ind.) QB
Andre Rison (Northwestern, Flint, Mich.) WR-DB
Chris Spielman (Washington, Massillon, Ohio) LB
Rod Woodson (Snider, Fort Wayne, Ind.) WR-DB
Marcus Dupree (Philadelphia, Miss.) RB
Herschel Walker (Johnson County, Wrightsville, Ga.) RB
Eric Dickerson (Sealy, Texas) RB
Marcus Allen (Lincoln, San Diego, Calif.) QB-DB
Charles White (San Fernando, Calif.) RB
Billy Sims (Hooks, Texas) RB
Earl Campbell (John Tyler, Tyler, Texas) RB
Tony Dorsett (Hopewell, Aliquippa, Pa.) RB
Pat Haden (Bishop Amat, La Puente Calif.) QB

None of those awards are based on who will be the best QB going forward.

No so the awards mean nothing. Pretty much what you are saying is if you were an NFL team you'd pick the Heismam winner over the prospect thought to be the best future pro

I'm not the only one saying Hack is #1, the guys who scout and evaluate players for a living are saying that. That means more than winning some award that partly is probably based on stats which mean nothing when evaluating a prospect.

Heisman winners are picked in the 1st round most of the time because they are real good players, but not always the best NFL prospect. The best QB is Hack because he is the best NFL prospect. I don't think you understand how the players are evaluated and what matters.

chris weinke, troy smith, eric crouch and most heisman trophy winners blow in the NFL..

Does it really matter? Hack is going to be coached by BOB while Max will get the Kiff. That's what we should really be looking at.

Look what he (and Charlie Fisher) did with Matt McGloin with less than a year to learn a complex Patriots-based offense. There need not be any more examples.

Coached with B2 and Tom brady was his qb all he did was turn Mcgloin into a great qb. c'mon man...

McGloin went to HS right next to mine kid wasn't even that good never expected him to start at PSU..

He had 4/5 star Eric Shrive playing on his OL, so it's not like college coaches didn't know about the kid. If he showed D1 talent, someone would have picked him up.

Gotta give McGloin credit though, he worked his ass off and proved a ton of people wrong.

True but the fact you go to work with B2 everyday can only help you as a coach, Charlie Weiss was unsuccessful at ND but it wasn't b/c of his offense coached Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn, Mcgloin was a former walk-on and BOB tunred him into one of the best QB's in the Big 10..

Jonathan Crompton was a four star coming out of high school. He had the size and the arm to be good. He had a great offer list and was considered the #2 pro style QB coming out of HS.

McGloin, on the other hand McGloin is a shade over 6 foot, has a sub par arm and had zero offers coming out of HS. He went from throwing for 1500 yards with a 8-5 TD/Int ratio to 3200 yards with 24 TDs and 5 picks. His numbers were better than Crompton in his senior year, and that was with one less game.

Again, Kiff never took on a project like McGloin.