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  • dpfenny said...

    It just lists the actual numbers for each conference...

    Thanks for playing

    Yea, and it says $20 Million per team. What are you trying to prove again?

    "SportsBusiness Daily has reported the Big 12 has verbally agreed to a new contract with ESPN and FOX for its first-tier rights for $2.6 billion over 13 years. That would bring the per-year average for the Big 12 to $200 million and the per-school, per-year average to $20 million."

    Now, add FSU and Clemson and that number goes up, and the conference championship game revenue would give each school a bump as well.

    Am I missing something here?

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  • dpfenny said...

    Yes, listing the actual numbers is stupid. Better to go by what homers on a message board are claiming.

    You have the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader.

    Rivver

  • MarineMountie said...

    Yea, and it says $20 Million per team. What are you trying to prove again?

    "SportsBusiness Daily has reported the Big 12 has verbally agreed to a new contract with ESPN and FOX for its first-tier rights for $2.6 billion over 13 years. That would bring the per-year average for the Big 12 to $200 million and the per-school, per-year average to $20 million."

    Now, add FSU and Clemson and that number goes up, and the conference championship game revenue would give each school a bump as well.

    Am I missing something here?

    Adding FSU and Clemson may or may not make the average payout go up. I simply listed what the numbers are today for each conference....the facts.

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  • dpfenny said...

    Yes, listing the actual numbers is stupid. Better to go by what homers on a message board are claiming.

    Stop being disingenuous, the ACCs TV deal is mindbogglingly terrible. That being said I still think that ACC teams will find their way into the playoff, the ACC has potential to surpass the Big12(not at the top with Texas and Oklahoma), and FSU would be better of staying at least until someone else leaves the league.

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  • Rivver said...

    You have the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader.

    ..ah more personal attacks. Yeah that is the sign of a real mature individual. Stay classy.

    Tell us all how staying in the ACC would keep FSU out of a 4 team playoff...

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  • dpfenny said...

    Adding FSU and Clemson may or may not make the average payout go up. I simply listed what the numbers are today for each conference....the facts.

    Well of course those are the numbers. Again.... What are you trying to prove here?

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  • Wendel Clark said...

    Stop being disingenuous, the ACCs TV deal is mindbogglingly terrible. That being said I still think that ACC teams will find their way into the playoff, the ACC has potential to surpass the Big12(not at the top with Texas and Oklahoma), and FSU would be better of staying at least until someone else leaves the league.

    lol, people were throwing out all kinds of numbers and I simply linked to an article listing the numbers for each conference. How on earth can that be "disingenuous"?

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  • dpfenny said...

    lol, people were throwing out all kinds of numbers and I simply linked to an article listing the numbers for each conference. How on earth can that be "disingenuous"?

    What numbers are people throwing out?

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  • dpfenny said...

    ..ah more personal attacks. Yeah that is the sign of a real mature individual. Stay classy.

    Tell us all how staying in the ACC would keep FSU out of a 4 team playoff...

    Rivver > you

    And rivver hates me

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Rivver > you

    And rivver hates me

    I'm just trying to understand him. He is listing payouts(Big 12 old payout before renegotiating) and I think trying to prove something even though the numbers have already been verbally agreed upon. The only reason they aren't official? You guessed it, re-alignment about to happen.

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  • dpfenny said...

    ..ah more personal attacks. Yeah that is the sign of a real mature individual. Stay classy.

    Tell us all how staying in the ACC would keep FSU out of a 4 team playoff...

    The ACC is arguably worse than the Big East and the new playoff format will likely include strength of schedule. Think about that for a minute and let me know why an ACC team would probably be left out of a 4 team playoff.

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    The ACC is arguably worse than the Big East and the new playoff format will likely include strength of schedule. Think about that for a minute and let me know why an ACC team would probably be left out of a 4 team playoff.

    Looking like the highest 3 rated conference champions and 1 wild card team will make the playoffs. Wild card team will be highest rated non conference winner, regardless of conference.

    Judging by recent numbers, the ACC may never make the playoffs, and that isn't me being a hater.

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  • MarineMountie said...

    I'm just trying to understand him. He is listing payouts(Big 12 old payout before renegotiating) and I think trying to prove something even though the numbers have already been verbally agreed upon. The only reason they aren't official? You guessed it, re-alignment about to happen.

    The numbers have gotten bigger for each conference for every negotiation. Right now the ACC is doing as well as the B12. The B12 is not making "a bunch more" as one has claimed. The B10, B12, ACC, P10 have all went up significantly with each new contract. Fact is RIGHT NOW, the ACC is no par with the B12. IF FSU decides to stay in the ACC they will be fine...they will still be able to get into the playoff. I think it is hilarious that I get attacked by morons on a message board for linking to the actual numbers as they are today.

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  • dpfenny said...

    The numbers have gotten bigger for each conference for every negotiation. Right now the ACC is doing as well as the B12. The B12 is not making "a bunch more" as one has claimed. The B10, B12, ACC, P10 have all went up significantly with each new contract. Fact is RIGHT NOW, the ACC is no par with the B12. IF FSU decides to stay in the ACC they will be fine...they will still be able to get into the playoff. I think it is hilarious that I get attacked by morons on a message board for linking to the actual numbers as they are today.

    The problem is... Those are old numbers. The re-negotiations have already taken place and have been agreed upon. The FACT(as you like to say) is that the Big 12 will be making $3 Million more per year, and that isn't including tier 3 rights. Add in tier 3 and that adds on another couple million per year. Probably about 3 million for WVU.

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  • dpfenny said...

    The numbers have gotten bigger for each conference for every negotiation. Right now the ACC is doing as well as the B12. The B12 is not making "a bunch more" as one has claimed. The B10, B12, ACC, P10 have all went up significantly with each new contract. Fact is RIGHT NOW, the ACC is no par with the B12. IF FSU decides to stay in the ACC they will be fine...they will still be able to get into the playoff. I think it is hilarious that I get attacked by morons on a message board for linking to the actual numbers as they are today.

    Really?The ACC's new contract that extends until 2027 is slightly better than the very old Big 12, there is no parity between the conferences situations. However, no one has confirmed this new Big 12 deal and ESPN could simply be floating numbers in hopes of realignment, but if no bites and defects to the Big 12 they could offer them a lot less.

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  • dpfenny said...

    The numbers have gotten bigger for each conference for every negotiation. Right now the ACC is doing as well as the B12. The B12 is not making "a bunch more" as one has claimed. The B10, B12, ACC, P10 have all went up significantly with each new contract. Fact is RIGHT NOW, the ACC is no par with the B12. IF FSU decides to stay in the ACC they will be fine...they will still be able to get into the playoff. I think it is hilarious that I get attacked by morons on a message board for linking to the actual numbers as they are today.

    Did you not know that the Big 12 is negotiating with ESPN for a new Tier 1 contract RIGHT NOW? Did you not know that the ACC's contract includes Tier 3 content while the Big 12's does not? Did you know that Texas, Kansas and Oklahoma State are all making more than 7 million dollars per year on Tier 3 rights?

    Nice name calling after crying about it earlier btw.

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    The ACC is arguably worse than the Big East and the new playoff format will likely include strength of schedule. Think about that for a minute and let me know why an ACC team would probably be left out of a 4 team playoff.

    Oh so now you are back to trying to have a discussion like an adult. As for your claims, very few would claim the ACC is worse than the Big East. Conference strength and rankings goes up and down every year. A 13-0 ACC team would not be left out of a 4 team playoff unless there were several other undefeated teams from the other big 4 conferences. Once again, when was the last time 4 teams ended the season undefeated?

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  • Wendel Clark said...

    Really?The ACC's new contract that extends until 2027 is slightly better than the very old Big 12, there is no parity between the conferences situations. However, no one has confirmed this new Big 12 deal and ESPN could simply be floating numbers in hopes of realignment, but if no bites and defects to the Big 12 they could offer them a lot less.

    If nothing happened in conference realignment and ESPN offered a lot less, the Big 12 would take its rights to open market which would create a bidding war between every major network.

    Rivver

  • Rivver said...

    If nothing happened in conference realignment and ESPN offered a lot less, the Big 12 would take its rights to open market which would create a bidding war between every major network.

    Something Swofford refused to do because of Raycom.

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  • dpfenny said...

    Oh so now you are back to trying to have a discussion like an adult. As for your claims, very few would claim the ACC is worse than the Big East. Conference strength and rankings goes up and down every year. A 13-0 ACC team would not be left out of a 4 team playoff unless there were several other undefeated teams from the other big 4 conferences. Once again, when was the last time 4 teams ended the season undefeated?

    When was the last time an ACC team finished the season in the top 4? Virginia Tech in 2007 and... uh...

    Rivver

  • Wendel Clark said...

    Really?The ACC's new contract that extends until 2027 is slightly better than the very old Big 12, there is no parity between the conferences situations. However, no one has confirmed this new Big 12 deal and ESPN could simply be floating numbers in hopes of realignment, but if no bites and defects to the Big 12 they could offer them a lot less.

    The "very old deal" was an 8 year deal that runs thru 2016 I believe. I have no doubt the new B12 deal will be worth more per year than the current ACC deal.

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  • Rivver said...

    Did you not know that the Big 12 is negotiating with ESPN for a new Tier 1 contract RIGHT NOW? Did you not know that the ACC's contract includes Tier 3 content while the Big 12's does not? Did you know that Texas, Kansas and Oklahoma State are all making more than 7 million dollars per year on Tier 3 rights?

    Nice name calling after crying about it earlier btw.

    I know the numbers...as a matter of fact, I listed them for each conference...remember.

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  • Rivver said...

    If nothing happened in conference realignment and ESPN offered a lot less, the Big 12 would take its rights to open market which would create a bidding war between every major network.

    They essentially are already do have their rights in an open market, they aren't taking a huge cut off of their market value just to be with ESPN.

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  • Rivver said...

    If nothing happened in conference realignment and ESPN offered a lot less, the Big 12 would take its rights to open market which would create a bidding war between every major network.

    In addition their contract for 2nd tier rights extends all the way until 2025 with FOX, so they couldn't renegotiate that unless FOX agrees, and they still have 3/4 more years on their ESPN contract.

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