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NSIAP: The NFL has officially ruined football...

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    That is an awesome gif

    Old but still a good one... Those are bath salts btw. [zombie]

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    Golden is better then Jimbo... I feared it was true. He is going to hoist a crystal ball there - fsufsu

    ilovelamp51

  • Looks like basketball has more contact than nffl now coffee

    CaneFanWNY

  • type_angry So a play like this is now a penalty???

    lounge fly

    tired

  • BBucksorBeGone8 said...

    Trying to water it down enough so my Browns can compete...

    Ha, the only good thing the Browns have going for them is a dude who lowers his head and destroy's on coming tacklers. T-Rich will become the most penalized player in the NFL next year...

    VegasTide

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    You mean: " Que es el Ene-efe-ele? Viva al futbol!"

    Nah I think he really means "什么时候记住人过去常常击中在橄榄球?"

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    wutang148713

  • Why don't they just make the players sign a release? What is UFC doing to reduce concussions ? Not a goddamn thing. The bloodier the better

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    scinsc5

  • scinsc5 said...

    Why don't they just make the players sign a release? What is UFC doing to reduce concussions ? Not a goddamn thing. The bloodier the better

    Correct

    Its mind blowing and has nothing to do with player safety, people are just too blind to realize it

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    NoVaNoles

  • scinsc5 said...

    Why don't they just make the players sign a release? What is UFC doing to reduce concussions ? Not a goddamn thing. The bloodier the better

    I'm not a lawyer but I assume it's because releases are infinitely challengeable in court. Also there is an obvious assumption of risk in something like the UFC - where the goal, definitively, is smashing your opponent's brains in.

    Every new rule is a craven, immoral attempt to shield themselves from future litigation. Releases scream actionable negligence and indifference. New rules say "we care, and we are doing everything we can".

    The reality is that if they truly gave two fvcks about the players they'd simply carve out .05% of their collective annual earnings to provide them with long term health care after they're out of the league.

    brem22

  • brem22 said...

    I'm not a lawyer but I assume it's because releases are infinitely challengeable in court. Also there is an obvious assumption of risk in something like the UFC - where the goal, definitively, is smashing your opponent's brains in.

    Every new rule is a craven, immoral attempt to shield themselves from future litigation. Releases scream actionable negligence and indifference. New rules say "we care, and we are doing everything we can".

    The reality is that if they truly gave two fvcks about the players they'd simply carve out .05% of their collective annual earnings to provide them with long term health care after they're out of the league.

    True that

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    NoVaNoles

  • In reality the sport would have cannibalized itself within 20 years with no rule changes. There is so much money being made now and too many old footballers who can barely get around want a piece of the pie they helped create. Lawsuits such as the class action one involving 4,000 former NFL players and players' wives are what has caused this influx of new "safety" rules. The NFL absolutely has to show dramatic rule changes or the supreme court will bankrupt them eventually. They have to be able to say to a former player or wife, "See all the rules we are now making for patient safety, we do care."
    I don't blame Goodell for these changes. He is the CEO of the NFL and as any good CEO would do he has to prevent his company from collapsing. I think there are at least 2 reason why he is hated though. 1) He is the face of the rule change and the easiest to point the finger at even though it's the owners that want this to happen 2) He comes across as disingenuous when everyone knows the rules aren't as much for the well being of the players as they are to keep the NFL rolling yet he still present it under a safety umbrella. And as much as the meat head football watcher wants to make comments like "Why don't they just put tutus on and be done with it" people will still watch the NFL. If the NFL does go under it won't be because of lack of interest; it will be because the money being made is not enough to keep up with the money going out because of the lawsuits.

    rtraburn

  • rtraburn said...

    "Why don't they just put tutus on and be done with it" people will still watch the NFL.

    If the NFL does go under it won't be because of lack of interest; it will be because the money being made is not enough to keep up with the money going out because of the lawsuits.

    Correct. But only up to a point imo.

    The NFL is becoming just as unwatchable as your average PAC 12 game. No one missed the spear, the clothes line tackle or the forearm shiver because their absence didn't alter the outcome or disrupt the flow of games. Every new rule now is so fvcking subjective and capriciously enforced that it's doing precisely these things. It's painful.

    Going under from the lawsuits? Lutz. Like all the tobacco companies have? What's stupid is that the NFL thinks it cannot be ultimately replaced by something less stultifying boring. Remember when boxing was really popular?

    brem22

  • brem22 said...

    I'm not a lawyer but I assume it's because releases are infinitely challengeable in court. Also there is an obvious assumption of risk in something like the UFC - where the goal, definitively, is smashing your opponent's brains in.

    Every new rule is a craven, immoral attempt to shield themselves from future litigation. Releases scream actionable negligence and indifference. New rules say "we care, and we are doing everything we can".

    The reality is that if they truly gave two fvcks about the players they'd simply carve out .05% of their collective annual earnings to provide them with long term health care after they're out of the league.

    "The reality is that if they truly gave two fvcks about the players they'd simply carve out .05% of their collective annual earnings to provide them with long term health care after they're out of the league."

    Option B would be for the players who are willingly playing a game that they know could have harsh long term consequences to carve out a portion of their substantial earnings to pay for their long term needs.
    Not sure i see how the NFL eschewing any attempts to make the game safer and instead offering long term health care to players is somehow compassionate. "Here. Keep banging your head and using your torso for a missile. Makes it fun for the fans. In 20 years we will pay for a nurse to change your diapers after you shit and drool all over yourself." That's compassion?
    Is the league going too far? Maybe.

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  • brem22 said...

    Going under from the lawsuits? Lutz. Like all the tobacco companies have? What's stupid is that the NFL thinks it cannot be ultimately replaced by something less stultifying boring. Remember when boxing was really popular?

    tobacco has survived because of the preventive/self preservation measures they have made over the years. if they did nothing then it would have been no more. I agree that most were forced upon them. Football is trying to do the same because if they sat back and let the game stay the same as it was 15 years ago then they would have no leg to stand on when more and more lawsuits came in.

    rtraburn

  • cockfool said...

    "The reality is that if they truly gave two fvcks about the players they'd simply carve out .05% of their collective annual earnings to provide them with long term health care after they're out of the league."

    Option B would be for the players who are willingly playing a game that they know could have harsh long term consequences to carve out a portion of their substantial earnings to pay for their long term needs. Not sure i see how the NFL eschewing any attempts to make the game safer and instead offering long term health care to players is somehow compassionate. "Here. Keep banging your head and using your torso for a missile. Makes it fun for the fans. In 20 years we will pay for a nurse to change your diapers after you shit and drool all over yourself." That's compassion? Is the league going too far? Maybe.

    Compassion is a relative term I guess. Compassion, or caring, to me is saying, "Hey, we understand this is a violent game. We do not think you are pieces of meat and we care about your well being beyond the limited time you will be able to play. We understand that not everyone will make Joe Fluke-o dollars and if you have medical issues going forward they can become a financial burden."

    I can't speak to every legal strategy, or the contradictions therein. Bottom line is that they do not care about player safety. They care about preserving their financial interests. But I can see the difficult position they're in... I mean, all of a sudden football is being positioned like it's rollerball. panic

    What makes it fun for the fans is the game of football. Not a neuron-exploding kill-shot on every play. They are changing the game by installing rules that are completely subjective. Was that a great hit or an egregiously violent penalty? Lets go to the booth for twenty minutes... Was that PI or two guys going for the ball? Jesus, who the hell knows. Flag it now, don't later, wait, the crowd groaned better call it, etc. etc. Christ, PAC 12 games are averaging 6 hours and 128 penalties now. It's absurd.

    brem22

  • rtraburn said...

    tobacco has survived because of the preventive/self preservation measures they have made over the years. if they did nothing then it would have been no more. I agree that most were forced upon them. Football is trying to do the same because if they sat back and let the game stay the same as it was 15 years ago then they would have no leg to stand on when more and more lawsuits came in.

    No more? Not a chance in hell. Even if big tobacco sat back and said, "Eff off. We're adding more tar and wrapping our smokes in Power Ranger paper. Sue us bitches" they'd still roll. Tobacco cos have survived because their product is made for pennies, sold for dollars, and... this is key... it's addictive. They have spent billions upon billions in defending themselves and paying settlements and they keep rolling. If every man, woman, child and dog in the US smoked cigarettes it would only equal a third of the number that smoke Marboro Reds (alone) in China.

    Conversely, if tobacco cos started marketing legitimately safe cigarettes they would fail. Because "safe cigarettes" are not cigarettes.

    The NFL is addictive, but it's potency is becoming weaker and weaker. What I'm saying is that there will come a tipping point where all these surface, lame-ass rules changes that do nothing to address player safety will irreparably harm the game. There is no such thing as safe football. Safe football is called ultimate frisbee. And it's for stupid hippies. 15-20 years ago the game was better. And as for the moronic "modern player size and speed" arguments... I'll take any 49er or C'Boy team from the early 90's and wipe the goddamn floor with any SB team from the last 15 years.

    brem22