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Mich&RedWingFan said...
So Romans is a quote from Jesus ...... carry on. Show me a gospel verse please. They are the only ones that have quotes from Jesus ... even though it is debatable they ever met Jesus.
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goodnews said...
We don't have any tradition that Jesus spoke for or against it. That's very true. However, Jesus always did uphold the OT. Specifically, in Matthew 5:18, Jesus said that He didn't come to do away with the OT but to uphold the OT. The OT clearly condemns what you're talking about. Paul, the author of Romans, hinted, in Galatians 1:10-18, that he learned directly from the Lord Himself. And, he often claimed to be an Apostle. Being an Apostle means, among other things, that one has received revelation from God. Now, as to your last statement about the gospel writers never meeting Jesus, I'd love to see you prove that. The gospel writers all knew Him personally. It's ok to have this debate and come out wherever you do. But please, let's do so armed with the facts.
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MAUDiculous said...
Coach Brown's intolerant views on homosexuality are really none of my concern, but when he starts using his position at Nebraska as a pedestal to be a bigot, that's where I draw the line. Sounds like he'd love to be a self proclaimed martyr and I think he would fit in well at the Westboro Baptist Church.
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goodnews said...
We don't have any tradition that Jesus spoke for or against it. That's very true. However, Jesus always did uphold the OT.
Now, as to your last statement about the gospel writers never meeting Jesus, I'd love to see you prove that. The gospel writers all knew Him personally.
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MAUDiculous said...
I'm not sure whether or not you are familiar with the concept of a hyperbole, but it is defined as "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally."
Hope this helps.
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MAUDiculous said...
He ALWAYS upheld the OT? I don't remember the Bible saying anything about Jesus going around killing children that rebel against their parents, adulterers, people who do not believe in him or homosexuals. I don't remember him sending men into exile for having sex with women, while it's shark week.
Also, Jesus lived somewhere between 0 and 33 AD. The first Gospel written (Mark) wasn't until 75 AD. Paul didn't start writing his letters until about 49 AD.
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goodnews said...
MAUD, I appreciate your response, but this is typical of the anti-Biblical/anti-Church antics of the various groups who love to quote the Scriptures incorrectly, and/or out of context, to make it look like something it isn't. Then, they attempt to shine the ancient texts through our post-post modern understanding of life as if the transition is that simple. To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in. Firstly, I'll give you credit for understanding that Jesus died around AD 33. Mark was probablly written in the 60's, not the 70's. However, date of writing at AD 75 would prohibit Mark from knowing Jesus. Mark, was almost definitely John Mark, who is mentioned in the book of Acts. Extra-Biblical tradition also tells us that he was a disciple of Peter. The Gospel of Mark also mentions a young man fleeing (Ch. 14) when Jesus was arrested. That innocuous style of identification was often used in those days by authors wanting to identify themselves without directly identifying themselves. Since we know John Mark was a teen or very young adult in the 30's it would be easy for him to author his gospel 30-40 years later. Mark knew Jesus of Nazareth. As I said before, Paul knew the resurrected Jesus.
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goodnews said...
MAUD, I appreciate your response, but this is typical of the anti-Biblical/anti-Church antics of the various groups who love to quote the Scriptures incorrectly, and/or out of context, to make it look like something it isn't. Then, they attempt to shine the ancient texts through our post-post modern understanding of life as if the transition is that simple. To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in. Firstly, I'll give you credit for understanding that Jesus died around AD 33. Mark was probablly written in the 60's, not the 70's. However, date of writing at AD 75 would prohibit Mark from knowing Jesus. Mark, was almost definitely John Mark, who is mentioned in the book of Acts. Extra-Biblical tradition also tells us that he was a disciple of Peter. The Gospel of Mark also mentions a young man fleeing (Ch. 14) when Jesus was arrested. That innocuous style of identification was often used in those days by authors wanting to identify themselves without directly identifying themselves. Since we know John Mark was a teen or very young adult in the 30's it would be easy for him to author his gospel 30-40 years later. Mark knew Jesus of Nazareth. As I said before, Paul knew the resurrected Jesus.
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MAUDiculous said...
If Matthew, Mark, Luke and John knew Jesus Christ, then why is the virgin birth only in 2 of the 4 gospels? Why do they tell about Jesus as a child, skip the vast majority of his life, then tell about him again as an adult?
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