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Nebraska Assistant,Faith,and Homosexuality

  • buttesnake

  • Just wait till the Muslims flood in over the next 25 years. At least Christians are supposed to have a spirit of love encapsulating their religion. Muslims just bring the freakin wood.

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  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    So Romans is a quote from Jesus ...... carry on. Show me a gospel verse please. They are the only ones that have quotes from Jesus ... even though it is debatable they ever met Jesus.

    We don't have any tradition that Jesus spoke for or against it. That's very true. However, Jesus always did uphold the OT. Specifically, in Matthew 5:18, Jesus said that He didn't come to do away with the OT but to uphold the OT. The OT clearly condemns what you're talking about. Paul, the author of Romans, hinted, in Galatians 1:10-18, that he learned directly from the Lord Himself. And, he often claimed to be an Apostle. Being an Apostle means, among other things, that one has received revelation from God. Now, as to your last statement about the gospel writers never meeting Jesus, I'd love to see you prove that. The gospel writers all knew Him personally. It's ok to have this debate and come out wherever you do. But please, let's do so armed with the facts.

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  • goodnews said...

    We don't have any tradition that Jesus spoke for or against it. That's very true. However, Jesus always did uphold the OT. Specifically, in Matthew 5:18, Jesus said that He didn't come to do away with the OT but to uphold the OT. The OT clearly condemns what you're talking about. Paul, the author of Romans, hinted, in Galatians 1:10-18, that he learned directly from the Lord Himself. And, he often claimed to be an Apostle. Being an Apostle means, among other things, that one has received revelation from God. Now, as to your last statement about the gospel writers never meeting Jesus, I'd love to see you prove that. The gospel writers all knew Him personally. It's ok to have this debate and come out wherever you do. But please, let's do so armed with the facts.

    Oh Goodnews, keep those pearls to yourself brother. I kept that in my back pocket.

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  • God never said anything about homosexuality. If you believe the Bible is written by God you are lost.

    It's my island. I OWN IT.

    beirutvol

  • greetings all! So if we should uphold the OT like Jesus wants then why are we just handpicking ideals? I mean what about all of these? (and goodtimes please please feel free to bring up context but I think we already covered that in previous threads)

    An uncircumcised boy is to be abandoned by his parents and community. Genesis 17:14

    Exodus

    God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26
    God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7
    Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3

    Leviticus
    Moses tells Aaron that his sons were burned to death to sanctfy and glorify God. 10:3
    Moses tells Aaron's cousins to drag the burned bodies out of the camp, and he warns Aaron not to mourn the death of his sons or God will kill him too, along with everyone else. 10:4-6
    "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."
    Don't round the corners of your head or beard. 19:27
    "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you."
    Don't get any tatoos. 19:28
    If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
    Handicapped people cannot approach the altar of God. They would "profane" it. 21:16-23
    No stranger or slave can "eat of the holy thing." 22:10, 13
    If a priest's daughter marries "a stranger" she can't eat any holy things. 22:12
    Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16

    If you don't follow all of the laws in the Old Testament, God will shower you with all of the curses in the next 25 verses. 26:14-15
    "I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it." 26:16
    "I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies." 26:17
    "And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins." 26:18
    "I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins." 26:21
    "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle." 26:22
    "I ... will punish you yet (another) seven times for your sins." 26:24
    "I will bring a sword upon you ... I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy." 26:25
    "And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me ... then ... I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins." 26:27-28
    "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." 26:29
    "I will ... cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you." 26:30
    "And I will make your cities waste." 26:31
    "And I will bring the land into desolation". 26:32
    "And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste." 26:33
    "And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth." 26:36
    "And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies." 26:37
    "And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up." 26:38
    "And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them." 26:39

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  • remind me again why a football coaches view on religion is important news?

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  • beirutvol said...

    God never said anything about homosexuality. If you believe the Bible is written by God you are lost.

    I'm confused, if you don't believe the Bible was written by God then how do you know what God did or didn't say about homosexuality?

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  • Coach Brown's intolerant views on homosexuality are really none of my concern, but when he starts using his position at Nebraska as a pedestal to be a bigot, that's where I draw the line. Sounds like he'd love to be a self proclaimed martyr and I think he would fit in well at the Westboro Baptist Church.

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  • MAUDiculous said...

    Coach Brown's intolerant views on homosexuality are really none of my concern, but when he starts using his position at Nebraska as a pedestal to be a bigot, that's where I draw the line. Sounds like he'd love to be a self proclaimed martyr and I think he would fit in well at the Westboro Baptist Church.

    yeah im sure ron brown is just the type of guy to protest soldiers funerals. get the f*** outta here

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  • goodnews said...

    We don't have any tradition that Jesus spoke for or against it. That's very true. However, Jesus always did uphold the OT.

    Now, as to your last statement about the gospel writers never meeting Jesus, I'd love to see you prove that. The gospel writers all knew Him personally.

    He ALWAYS upheld the OT? I don't remember the Bible saying anything about Jesus going around killing children that rebel against their parents, adulterers, people who do not believe in him or homosexuals. I don't remember him sending men into exile for having sex with women, while it's shark week.

    Also, Jesus lived somewhere between 0 and 33 AD. The first Gospel written (Mark) wasn't until 75 AD. Paul didn't start writing his letters until about 49 AD.

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  • Husker14675 said...

    yeah im sure ron brown is just the type of guy to protest soldiers funerals. get the f*** outta here

    I was obviously referring to his intolerant stance on homosexuality.

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  • MAUDiculous said...

    I was obviously referring to his intolerant stance on homosexuality.

    use a better example next time pal instead of the most extreme. comparing rons character to those psychos is not even right

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  • Husker14675 said...

    use a better example next time pal instead of the most extreme. comparing rons character to those psychos is not even right

    I'm not sure whether or not you are familiar with the concept of a hyperbole, but it is defined as "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally."

    Hope this helps.

    This post was edited by MAUDiculous on 4/26/2012 at 11:58 AM

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  • MAUDiculous said...

    I'm not sure whether or not you are familiar with the concept of a hyperbole, but it is defined as "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally."

    Hope this helps.

    lol trying make yourself seem more intelligent on the internet? ok buddy keep up the good work. dip shit

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  • beirutvol said...

    God never said anything about homosexuality. If you believe the Bible is written by God you are lost.

    Then you have posts like this that are neither atheistic nor Christian. They are some other subset that cannot be deciphered with a properly functioning human mind.

    fsufsu

  • Husker14675 said...

    lol trying make yourself seem more intelligent on the internet? ok buddy keep up the good work. dip shit

    I'm simply saying that the comment wasn't meant to be taken literally, tough guy. Trying to make yourself seem more tough over the internet though is cruise control for cool. flex

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  • MAUDiculous said...

    He ALWAYS upheld the OT? I don't remember the Bible saying anything about Jesus going around killing children that rebel against their parents, adulterers, people who do not believe in him or homosexuals. I don't remember him sending men into exile for having sex with women, while it's shark week.

    Also, Jesus lived somewhere between 0 and 33 AD. The first Gospel written (Mark) wasn't until 75 AD. Paul didn't start writing his letters until about 49 AD.

    MAUD, I appreciate your response, but this is typical of the anti-Biblical/anti-Church antics of the various groups who love to quote the Scriptures incorrectly, and/or out of context, to make it look like something it isn't. Then, they attempt to shine the ancient texts through our post-post modern understanding of life as if the transition is that simple. To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in. Firstly, I'll give you credit for understanding that Jesus died around AD 33. Mark was probablly written in the 60's, not the 70's. However, date of writing at AD 75 would prohibit Mark from knowing Jesus. Mark, was almost definitely John Mark, who is mentioned in the book of Acts. Extra-Biblical tradition also tells us that he was a disciple of Peter. The Gospel of Mark also mentions a young man fleeing (Ch. 14) when Jesus was arrested. That innocuous style of identification was often used in those days by authors wanting to identify themselves without directly identifying themselves. Since we know John Mark was a teen or very young adult in the 30's it would be easy for him to author his gospel 30-40 years later. Mark knew Jesus of Nazareth. As I said before, Paul knew the resurrected Jesus.

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  • goodnews said...

    M To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in.

    That's a pretty high barrier wouldn't you say? I mean the original writing was in a now-defunct language??????

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  • Not sure why GOODNEWS is trying to proselytize in here. Salvation is a sovereign act of God. Those who believe will be as fools to the world. It's scriptural and logically obvious.

    I believe the foundation of my existence is that God is real and Christ was in a mysterious way both God and God's son and that He made man to seek His own glory. If you don't supernaturally believe it then it will infuriate you. Duh.

    fsufsu

  • This happens thousands of times every day: an idea (e.g., homosexuality is wrong, etc.) takes precedent over persons and our relationships with them.

    tlhwg

  • goodnews said...

    MAUD, I appreciate your response, but this is typical of the anti-Biblical/anti-Church antics of the various groups who love to quote the Scriptures incorrectly, and/or out of context, to make it look like something it isn't. Then, they attempt to shine the ancient texts through our post-post modern understanding of life as if the transition is that simple. To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in. Firstly, I'll give you credit for understanding that Jesus died around AD 33. Mark was probablly written in the 60's, not the 70's. However, date of writing at AD 75 would prohibit Mark from knowing Jesus. Mark, was almost definitely John Mark, who is mentioned in the book of Acts. Extra-Biblical tradition also tells us that he was a disciple of Peter. The Gospel of Mark also mentions a young man fleeing (Ch. 14) when Jesus was arrested. That innocuous style of identification was often used in those days by authors wanting to identify themselves without directly identifying themselves. Since we know John Mark was a teen or very young adult in the 30's it would be easy for him to author his gospel 30-40 years later. Mark knew Jesus of Nazareth. As I said before, Paul knew the resurrected Jesus.

    Appreciate ya, but disagree..Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict Jewish rules against doing any work on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-14, Mark 2:23-28, 3:1-6, Luke 6:1-11, 13:10-17, 14:1-6, John 5:1-18).
    In contrast to the "clean" and "unclean rules," Jesus said no food can defile a person. It is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy (Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23).
    Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).

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  • goodnews said...

    MAUD, I appreciate your response, but this is typical of the anti-Biblical/anti-Church antics of the various groups who love to quote the Scriptures incorrectly, and/or out of context, to make it look like something it isn't. Then, they attempt to shine the ancient texts through our post-post modern understanding of life as if the transition is that simple. To correctly understand the OT, or any other ancient writing for that matter, you have to understand the context in which it was written, along with the nuance of the language it was written in. Firstly, I'll give you credit for understanding that Jesus died around AD 33. Mark was probablly written in the 60's, not the 70's. However, date of writing at AD 75 would prohibit Mark from knowing Jesus. Mark, was almost definitely John Mark, who is mentioned in the book of Acts. Extra-Biblical tradition also tells us that he was a disciple of Peter. The Gospel of Mark also mentions a young man fleeing (Ch. 14) when Jesus was arrested. That innocuous style of identification was often used in those days by authors wanting to identify themselves without directly identifying themselves. Since we know John Mark was a teen or very young adult in the 30's it would be easy for him to author his gospel 30-40 years later. Mark knew Jesus of Nazareth. As I said before, Paul knew the resurrected Jesus.

    If Matthew, Mark, Luke and John knew Jesus Christ, then why is the virgin birth only in 2 of the 4 gospels? Why do they tell about Jesus as a child, skip the vast majority of his life, then tell about him again as an adult?

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  • MAUDiculous said...

    If Matthew, Mark, Luke and John knew Jesus Christ, then why is the virgin birth only in 2 of the 4 gospels? Why do they tell about Jesus as a child, skip the vast majority of his life, then tell about him again as an adult?

    Because a council three hundred or so odd years after Christ assembled the Bible and picked which books were "applicable".

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  • Even Muslims believe he was born of a virgin birth. Man atheists love discussing scripture when its doubt they are trying to sow.

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