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New Georgia Abortion Law......passed

  • LOSNOLES said...

    Awesome man, thats just effing cool saved a child.My wife and I may decide to adopt for our third child down the road.

    We have 2 older daughters, they hated it at first. Both now say they will adopt also once they are ready to have children.

    I think we talked about some of this once before, we also adopted 2 other children, on top of the 6 year old, a brother and sister that came from an abusive home. The brother is cognitively impaired, has physical disabilities, and was at the receiving end of the abuse. The sister was taken from them at the hospital.

    xxmgobluexx

  • BetterOff said...

    But it doesn't bother you that the same guy will never go to Washington and write a single piece of legislation on the matter or attempt to overturn Roe v Wade?

    Or that same person is probably against putting an end to semi or fully automatic weapons or that they are probably pro death penalty?

    I'm not saying I'm for abortion, but there is a lot of hypocrite when it comes to pro-life stances in Washington.

    I don't get why anti-abortion is linked with pro-life. I don't see the comparison between an unborn child and a convicted murderer/rapist.

    Daup

  • fsufsu said...

    If God isn't real then who cares about babies. Who cares about anything. If we are really just chemical processes feigning experiential emotion then none of it is "real" anyways. The existence of God defines every single thing. One way or the other.

    You need an imaginary friend to decipher right from wrong?

    Nice.

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    devidee

  • Also, you guys realize that Trayvon Martin came out of the womb wearing a hoodie don't you.

    Bet you would have been cool with aborting him at 5 weeks.

    AMIRITE

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  • devidee said...

    Also, you guys realize that Trayvon Martin came out of the womb wearing a hoodie don't you.

    Bet you would have been cool with aborting him at 5 weeks.

    AMIRITE

    5 weeks? Yeah, no problem at all with abortion at 5 weeks.

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    DrStach_

  • Daup said...

    I don't get why anti-abortion is linked with pro-life. I don't see the comparison between an unborn child and a convicted murderer/rapist.

    It's all killing. We talk about protecting those that can't protect themselves, but the same politicians in Washington that are anti-abortion want to let automatic gun bans expire just because they are in the pocket of some NRA lobbyist. Those guns lead to unprotected people being killed all the time.

    I am against the death penalty for many reasons, but one is because there is no such thing as a sure thing. Convicted murderers are later found to be not guilty enough to make me be against taking any type of action that is non-reversable in such a way.

    I link the two because I don't see how someone can choose who it is OK to allow to die and who is allowed to live.

    BetterOff

  • LOSNOLES said...

    Im adopted and glad I wasnt aborted.

    Me too. Are you my brother?

    FSULaura

  • devidee said...

    You need an imaginary friend to decipher right from wrong?

    Nice.

    Yeah, I thought that was pretty bad as well.

    BetterOff

  • Dr.Stache said...

    5 weeks? Yeah, no problem at all with abortion at 5 weeks.

    I probably agree with you more on than issue than not, but again, I don't like politicians getting involved in setting limits or drawing the line. At some point, there is a day in which it is OK, but a few hours later all of a sudden it is wrong.

    That's why I try to be black and white with my opinions as much as possible. I do think that somewhere I would find an exception, but it does boggle me to wonder why a woman would wait that long to make that decision. I think most women probably know what decision that they would make earlier in life before anything even happens and if anything if they were for abortion, when they ended up being pregnant, would choose to have the child. Waiting 5 months or however long seems idiotic to me, but I am not sure I should be the one deciding where to draw the line.

    BetterOff

  • BetterOff said...

    It's all killing. We talk about protecting those that can't protect themselves, but the same politicians in Washington that are anti-abortion want to let automatic gun bans expire just because they are in the pocket of some NRA lobbyist. Those guns lead to unprotected people being killed all the time.

    I am against the death penalty for many reasons, but one is because there is no such thing as a sure thing. Convicted murderers are later found to be not guilty enough to make me be against taking any type of action that is non-reversable in such a way.

    I link the two because I don't see how someone can choose who it is OK to allow to die and who is allowed to live.

    I see what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. That child is killed based off choices of others, nothing of their own doing. The murderer made the choice to kill, they made the choices of that led to being put down.

    xxmgobluexx

  • Dr.Stache said...

    5 weeks? Yeah, no problem at all with abortion at 5 weeks.

    Right. Faces and what not.

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  • BetterOff said...

    I probably agree with you more on than issue than not, but again, I don't like politicians getting involved in setting limits or drawing the line. At some point, there is a day in which it is OK, but a few hours later all of a sudden it is wrong.

    That's why I try to be black and white with my opinions as much as possible. I do think that somewhere I would find an exception, but it does boggle me to wonder why a woman would wait that long to make that decision. I think most women probably know what decision that they would make earlier in life before anything even happens and if anything if they were for abortion, when they ended up being pregnant, would choose to have the child. Waiting 5 months or however long seems idiotic to me, but I am not sure I should be the one deciding where to draw the line.

    One thing I have always found interesting. If a mother wants to keep her child, that is her baby from the time she finds out she is pregnant to everybody, including her doctors and nursed. If she wants an abortion, that same baby is now just a clump of cells.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    It is always about the woman's rights, never about the right's of the child. It is appalling.

    Oh, and popcorn.

    It's not a child. It's a fishy like organism.

    Nah but seriously it isn't a child. If you want to call that a child I'll go on the opposite end of the spectrum and say that it isn't a human child until it has self-recognition at the age of like 5.

    Anyway I'm not sure how I feel about abortions after 5 months anyway. I will say it seems like a slippery slope that pro-choice people could use to eventually make abortion illegal.

    TalHawkins112

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    One thing I have always found interesting. If a mother wants to keep her child, that is her baby from the time she finds out she is pregnant to everybody, including her doctors and nursed. If she wants an abortion, that same baby is now just a clump of cells.

    It is either a baby or a clump of cells either way. It just depends on how you or whoever wants to define it. Technically, we all are just organic clumps of cells. Nothing changes.

    BetterOff

  • So people who don't like abortion, would you want a fetus to have full rights at conception then?

    ramssuperbowl99

  • TalHawkins112 said...

    It's not a child. It's a fishy like organism.

    Nah but seriously it isn't a child. If you want to call that a child I'll go on the opposite end of the spectrum and say that it isn't a human child until it has self-recognition at the age of like 5.

    Anyway I'm not sure how I feel about abortions after 5 months anyway. I will say it seems like a slippery slope that pro-choice people could use to eventually make abortion illegal.

    I don't think you have to worry about that. Then what platform would Southern Republicans run on?

    They would just be opening the door for Democrats in undecided areas to run on the pro-choice platform and that would be very damning to the Republican Party.

    That is one reason this topic pisses me off. I don't care about someone's opinions or beliefs. That's their's to have and I respect that.

    BetterOff

  • BetterOff said...

    I don't think you have to worry about that. Then what platform would Southern Republicans run on?

    They would just be opening the door for Democrats in undecided areas to run on the pro-choice platform and that would be very damning to the Republican Party.

    That is one reason this topic pisses me off. I don't care about someone's opinions or beliefs. That's their's to have and I respect that.

    Anti-evolution, anti-separation of church and state, anti-gay marriage...I'm sure southern republicans can find another dumb cause to back.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • BetterOff said...

    It is either a baby or a clump of cells either way. It just depends on how you or whoever wants to define it. Technically, we all are just organic clumps of cells. Nothing changes.

    Dehumanizing the baby is key point for many abortionist.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Dehumanizing the baby is key point for many abortionist.

    Or medical experts just want to use accurate terminology and anti-abortion people use the incorrect terminology to make it appear like pro-choice people actually want children killed...

    ramssuperbowl99

  • rms02d said...

    The law sounds rational.

    I guess there is scientific evidence that babies feel pain starting at the 5th month.

    Regarding "Wtf is wrong with people"

    Abortion was made legal by the supreme court almost 40 years ago.

    Republicans pretend that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter in legal disputes, but they continue to pass legislation over abortion at the state level because they don't what to accept a 39 year old ruling.

    I think it bothers "liberals" that are "Pro-choice" because its obvious that Republican "groups" are working behind the scenes to have mutliple states pass similar legislation, with an attempt to get abortion in front of a conservative majority supreme court.

    IMO the hypocrisy is wtf is wrong with people.

    If, as seems likely, the Supreme court strikes down the individual mandate. Republicans that are still fighting Roe vs Wade will say, "The Supreme Court has made its choice, the individual mandate is dead, so its time to move on because what the Supreme Court says is law"

    I imagine if California passed a law, based on scientific evidence, that hand guns should be banned in the state, Republicans wouldn't trust the "science" and just say that this is evidence of "judicial activism", and an attempt by "Liberals" to take away the 2nd amendment.

    I guess a lack of trust in people with opposing ideas and hypocrisy in general is "wtf is wrong with people".

    I doubt many people have abortions after 5 months anyway. Usually when you have an abortion you try to keep it quiet, so people don't ask "what happened to the baby".

    But from a cost perspective, why pay $100,000 of dollars for a baby born at 5 months, when you can abort it for $600.

    Do Republicans really want people on Medicaid (i.e. Charmeesha, Lawanda, and Tyrones old girl Laquisha)and our tax dollars to pay for the expensive care needed for premature babies?

    Me thinks that this is one of the "exceptions' to goverment spending that makes the Republican party the party of Hypocrites and fools.

    Not that the democrats are much better, if at all.

    A little extreme, but you make a lot of good points.

    That's how we roll in the South. If you don't like the federal ruling on something because it is too liberal, then just get the state to stiffen the law at that level, but if a state decides that the federal ruling is too conservative and decides to make a ruling against it (gay marriage for example), then it is just some leftist judge with an agenda.

    We're for states rights, against states rights and everything in between. Just be at church on Sunday and forget about the other 6 days.

    BetterOff

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Or medical experts just want to use accurate terminology and anti-abortion people use the incorrect terminology to make it appear like pro-choice people actually want children killed...

    As stated earlier, when my wife and I went into the doctor's office when she was pregnant, the doctor talked to us about our child.

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    As stated earlier, when my wife and I went into the doctor's office when she was pregnant, the doctor talked to us about our child.

    I'm sure that one doctor using the term child once completely changes the definition of the words child and fetus.

    ramssuperbowl99

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    As stated earlier, when my wife and I went into the doctor's office when she was pregnant, the doctor talked to us about our child.

    You have got to be kidding be with that kind of logic. I respect your opinion and beliefs, but the logic you are using is hyperbole at best.

    Before we had kids, my wife and I called our dogs our children. Should we have been put in jail or had them taken away for not enrolling them in school?

    BetterOff

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    I'm sure that one doctor using the term child once completely changes the definition of the words child and fetus.

    Another thing of note, when a pregnant woman is killed, how could there ever be a double homicide if she wasn't carrying a child?

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Another thing of note, when a pregnant woman is killed, how could there ever be a double homicide if she wasn't carrying a child?

    And why can't pregnant women drive in the carpool lane?

    Why aren't mothers who have miscarriages charged with manslaughter?

    Why aren't mothers who drink a glass of wine while pregnant charged with distribution of alcohol to a minor?

    Why, when a fetus implants in the fallopian tube and the mother chooses to not abort it and die so the fetus can live, is the fetus not charged with manslaughter?

    ramssuperbowl99