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New Georgia Abortion Law......passed

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    It doesn't have any because if it did, the right to its own life would directly conflict with the woman's right to her own body.

    Rights don't contradict each other.

    So, the unborn human being has no rights? I guess we're free to torture the little one then, right? If it doesn't have any rights that is.

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    goodnews

  • rms02d said...

    another example of "wtf is wrong with people"

    Citing random opinoin websites on the internet to back up their beliefs.

    Sprechen sie Englisch?

    bvg153555

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    So, a woman has the right to have an abortion at 7, 8 or even 9 months into the pregnancy? In your opinion?

    Yeah, that's not a moral thing to do in my opinion, but she maintains a right to her own body at all times.

    ramssuperbowl99 ●

  • goodnews said...

    So, the unborn human being has no rights? I guess we're free to torture the little one then, right? If it doesn't have any rights that is.

    I'd be cool with that. Maybe we could make videos of fetuses being poked and punched on ultrasound to sell on the internet. That would be hilarious.

    bvg153555

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Again, fetus. Not baby.

    Like I said before, if we give the fetus legal rights, we have a contradiction between the right of the mother to her own body and the right to life of the fetus.

    That doesn't make sense, as rights don't come into conflict by definition.

    Therefore, we either have to remove the rights of the mother (which obviously doesn't make sense since we absolutely know the mother is a human being) or not grant the right to life to the fetus. There is only one sane answer to that dilemma.

    What about when the unborn human being is born? It takes "rights" away from the parent. I have two children and can tell you that's true. You're argument won't hold water.

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  • goodnews said...

    What about when the unborn human being is born? It takes "rights" away from the parent. I have two children and can tell you that's true. You're argument won't hold water.

    Come on goodnews. You're more intelligent than that.

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  • [bvg] said...

    I'd be cool with that. Maybe we could make videos of fetuses being poked and punched on ultrasound to sell on the internet. That would be hilarious.

    That's the unfortunate logical conclusion to rams line of reasoning.

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  • goodnews said...

    So, the unborn human being has no rights? I guess we're free to torture the little one then, right? If it doesn't have any rights that is.

    Who would do that? Honestly?

    If I had to guess, I'd guess that torturing a fetus is legal. Just because no one is crazy enough to ever torture a fetus.

    ramssuperbowl99 ●

  • A newborn is an independent being? Really? Leave one alone for a day or so and see what happens. Just as dependent on mom after it comes out, trust me. Only difference is if mom is lucky, someone else can "deal with it" so she can have a nap or, the true blessing of a shower.

    So much inconsistency in this thread.

    FSULaura

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Who would do that? Honestly?

    If I had to guess, I'd guess that torturing a fetus is legal. Just because no one is crazy enough to ever torture a fetus.

    That example would be a logical consequence not a logical conclusion btw.

    The logical conclusion would be that women have the right to the control or their bodies(which includes the egg,fetus,baby until it is born).

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  • goodnews said...

    What about when the unborn human being is born? It takes "rights" away from the parent. I have two children and can tell you that's true. You're argument won't hold water.

    Oh, really? Please tell me how your children have taken away your life, liberty, or property.

    Here's a helpful link for you:
    http://www.adoption-for-my-baby.com/index.php?q=how-to-give-your-child-up-for-adoption.html

    ramssuperbowl99 ●

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Again, fetus. Not baby.

    Like I said before, if we give the fetus legal rights, we have a contradiction between the right of the mother to her own body and the right to life of the fetus.

    That doesn't make sense, as rights don't come into conflict by definition.

    Therefore, we either have to remove the rights of the mother (which obviously doesn't make sense since we absolutely know the mother is a human being) or not grant the right to life to the fetus. There is only one sane answer to that dilemma.

    I really don't have an opinion on this so don't try argue with me. I'm just pointing out how stupid you sound. Sees, I'd vote to have most of you aborted right now if I had the opportunity. That would seem to conflict with my belief that all humans have a right to life but the way I see it, most of you are subhuman and certainly don't have the brain activity to be considered "alive" so there's no conflict.

    Oh, and it is a baby...a baby I have more respect for than I do for you.

    bvg153555

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Come on goodnews. You're more intelligent than that.

    Thanks for the compliment. That's why I force people to think their line of reasoning through. Saying that the unborn human being has no rights is preposterous, unless we want to become barbarians. It's really more about modern Americans wanting to act irresponsibly and selfishly than about rights.

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  • goodnews said...

    Thanks for the compliment. That's why I force people to think their line of reasoning through. Saying that the unborn human being has no rights is preposterous, unless we want to become barbarians. It's really more about modern Americans wanting to act irresponsibly and selfishly than about rights.

    Well. He is talking about legal rights here,which would make him right and you know that last line is all opinion.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    That example would be a logical consequence not a logical conclusion btw.

    The logical conclusion would be that women have the right to the control or their bodies(which includes the egg,fetus,baby until it is born).

    You are an embarrassment to Bama fans. Please change your username and allegiance and/or suck start a shotgun. If you need instructions or assistance, please feel free to contact me by PM. I'd be more than happy to help.

    bvg153555

  • FSULaura said...

    A newborn is an independent being? Really? Leave one alone for a day or so and see what happens. Just as dependent on mom after it comes out, trust me. Only difference is if mom is lucky, someone else can "deal with it" so she can have a nap or, the true blessing of a shower.

    So much inconsistency in this thread.

    Independent as in not physically tied to the mother. You really don't see a difference between a newborn baby that can be cared for by someone other than the mother, physically separated from the mother, can breath on its own without the mother, etc. etc and a fetus that is literally tied to the mother and dies in minutes once that connection is severed?

    Really?

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  • goodnews said...

    Thanks for the compliment. That's why I force people to think their line of reasoning through. Saying that the unborn human being has no rights is preposterous, unless we want to become barbarians. It's really more about modern Americans wanting to act irresponsibly and selfishly than about rights.

    Woa, woa. Easy there with the barbarian hate, bro.

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    devidee

  • goodnews said...

    Thanks for the compliment. That's why I force people to think their line of reasoning through. Saying that the unborn human being has no rights is preposterous, unless we want to become barbarians. It's really more about modern Americans wanting to act irresponsibly and selfishly than about rights.

    You really think you're talking to someone capable of "reasoning"?

    bvg153555

  • FSULaura said...

    A newborn is an independent being? Really? Leave one alone for a day or so and see what happens. Just as dependent on mom after it comes out, trust me. Only difference is if mom is lucky, someone else can "deal with it" so she can have a nap or, the true blessing of a shower.

    So much inconsistency in this thread.

    Yep. A child is dependent for years on others to care for them. Only difference, we can all hear them cry, only a mother feels them kick.

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • ramssuperbowl99 said...

    Oh, really? Please tell me how your children have taken away your life, liberty, or property.

    Here's a helpful link for you: http://www.adoption-for-my-baby.com/index.php?q=how-to-give-your-child-up-for-adoption.html

    I love my children and would do anything for them. Listen up. As a parent, I am not able to do a lot of things that i used to do b/c of the demands of my children. My wife and I used to be free to do just about anything we wanted, whenever we wanted. Not anymore. We now have to sacrifice our money, sleep, time, bodies, etc., for the good of the children who need us in order to survive and to learn. The same is true of an unborn human being. The mother doesn't have all the rights and should be responsible with the life that is dependent upon her.Born babies are just as dependent as unborn bablies.

    This post was edited by goodnews on 3/30/2012 at 11:00 AM

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  • [bvg] said...

    You are an embarrassment to Bama fans. Please change your username and allegiance and/or suck start a shotgun. If you need instructions or assistance, please feel free to contact me by PM. I'd be more than happy to help.

    Wow. Did you really just advise me to kill myself because I disagree with you?

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Well. He is talking about legal rights here,which would make him right and you know that last line is all opinion.

    And if you can't afford a shotgun, I'd be happy to help there too.

    bvg153555

  • [bvg] said...

    You really think you're talking to someone capable of "reasoning"?

    ramssuperbowl99 is the only one in this thread who has posted anything remotely based on reason.

    This post was edited by devidee on 3/30/2012 at 11:02 AM

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    devidee

  • [bvg] said...

    I really don't have an opinion on this so don't try argue with me. I'm just pointing out how stupid you sound. Sees, I'd vote to have most of you aborted right now if I had the opportunity. That would seem to conflict with my belief that all humans have a right to life but the way I see it, most of you are subhuman and certainly don't have the brain activity to be considered "alive" so there's no conflict.

    Oh, and it is a baby...a baby I have more respect for than I do for you.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus

    No, it's a fetus.

    The rest of your post is nonsensical babble and doesn't merit response.

    ramssuperbowl99 ●

  • goodnews said...

    I love my children and would do anything for them. Listen up. As a parent, I am not able to do a lot of things that i used to do b/c of the demands of my children. My wife and I used to be free to do just about anything we wanted, whenever we wanted. Not anymore. We now have to sacrifice our money, sleep, time, bodies, etc., for the good of the children who need us in order to survive and to learn. The same is true of an unborn human being. The mother doesn't have all the rights and should be responsible with the life that is dependent upon her.Born babies are just as dependent as unborn bablies.

    No they aren't. You can give them up for adoption, but you like your kids so you choose to keep them around.

    ramssuperbowl99 ●

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