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  • ifinnen said...

    shrug

    Difference of opinion.

    The last 8-10 years, Unless you have an absolute stud (VY, Cam Newton), there has only been 1 formula for winning championships

    Great defense, great running game, QB who can limit mistakes and/or be mobile

    Also relying on the Pitt(yes, Pitt) kicker to miss a short field goal in overtime.

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  • MarineMountie said...

    So didn't every writer and voter. Some teams prove them wrong, like when FSU lost to NC State. USC has lost 3 games, and they were as high as #2.

    KSU has done more to this point than ND, and a part of that has to do with how ND is performing against terrible teams. Oregon has no defense to speak of. ND doesn't have the offense to even contend with Alabama. Alabama would wax ND the same way they did LSU in the Championship game last year. KSU is the only team with enough balance to have a chance to beat Alabama. LSU is balanced, and they SHOULD have beat them. KSU is balanced, and they can beat Alabama. Nobody else can.

    Lolz, so you just base your opinion off of others ?

    It was obvious that WVU sucked after that Baylor game, but you didn't want to hear it

    I don't care what teams have done or haven't done really, I know football and know who has the most talent

    I think ND is better than Kansas St

    That being said I have K ST right behind them

    As for USCw I also called that one long before the season ever started and was one of the few on here that knew they weren't shit

    As for FSU, we bounced back...... something WVU has failed to do, and failed hard

    I agree with most of this post you made, but K State would get rolled by Bama

    FSU and UF could give Bama a better run than K State, cause they have better talent plain and simple and anything can happen in a single game

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  • ifinnen said...

    shrug

    Difference of opinion.

    The last 8-10 years, Unless you have an absolute stud (VY, Cam Newton), there has only been 1 formula for winning championships

    Great defense, great running game, QB who can limit mistakes and/or be mobile

    Correct

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Lolz, so you just base your opinion off of others ?

    It was obvious that WVU sucked after that Baylor game, but you didn't want to hear it

    I don't care what teams have done or haven't done really, I know football and know who has the most talent

    I think ND is better than Kansas St

    That being said I have K ST right behind them

    As for USCw I also called that one long before the season ever started and was one of the few on here that knew they weren't shit

    As for FSU, we bounced back...... something WVU has failed to do, and failed hard

    I agree with most of this post you made, but K State would get rolled by Bama

    FSU and UF could give Bama a better run than K State, cause they have better talent plain and simple and anything can happen in a single game

    I'll say FSU, not hating on driskell. Don't see him making the throws that mett did

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  • Bama Boz said...

    I'll say FSU, not hating on driskell. Don't see him making the throws that mett did

    True, I just think UF's defense is really good

    EJ and Driskel wouldn't do much on Bama and FSU couldn't run the ball on you like LSU did

    UF either imo

    But our defenses are right there with LSU's, maybe better

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  • MarineMountie said...

    So didn't every writer and voter. Some teams prove them wrong, like when FSU lost to NC State. USC has lost 3 games, and they were as high as #2.

    KSU has done more to this point than ND, and a part of that has to do with how ND is performing against terrible teams. Oregon has no defense to speak of. ND doesn't have the offense to even contend with Alabama. Alabama would wax ND the same way they did LSU in the Championship game last year. KSU is the only team with enough balance to have a chance to beat Alabama. LSU is balanced, and they SHOULD have beat them. KSU is balanced, and they can beat Alabama. Nobody else can.

    This post is so frustrating...

    Regarding KSU - What about when the were up on North Texas by single digits in the 4th quarter??...what about when they beat Iowa State by 6...How about needing a lucky azz fumble 6 to beat OU. Their "marquee" wins?? 3 loss Texas Tech, 3 loss WVU

    Regarding "Balance" - Have you seen ND play? that is the one thing ND does really well...when ND needs to run, no one stops them. The one time Kelly needed to play aggressive on offense all year was when they were down 14 in the 4th yesterday...what do they do? Open up the playbook and score 14 in a hurry (they actually could have won in regulation had Golson not thrown it right to a Pitt guy in the endzone when Eifert was wide open)

    LSU is not balanced, they are just able to match up size wise with Bama. Same with ND, and same with FSU. UGA and UF have the defenses to match up size wise, so I have them as 5 and 6.

    I posted this last night, the key to beating Bama is (as shown by LSU):
    Big/really talented front 7
    Stable of talented RB's
    Strong armed QB

    KSU has....none of those

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    True, I just think UF's defense is really good

    EJ and Driskel wouldn't do much on Bama and FSU couldn't run the ball on you like LSU did

    UF either imo

    But our defenses are right there with LSU's, maybe better

    Would like to see Fl, Bama, FSU defenses against. USC, Oregon, KS and ND.

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  • ifinnen said...

    This post is so frustrating...

    Regarding KSU - What about when the were up on North Texas by single digits in the 4th quarter??...what about when they beat Iowa State by 6...How about needing a lucky azz fumble 6 to beat OU. Their "marquee" wins?? 3 loss Texas Tech, 3 loss WVU

    Regarding "Balance" - Have you seen ND play? that is the one thing ND does really well...when ND needs to run, no one stops them. The one time Kelly needed to play aggressive on offense all year was when they were down 14 in the 4th yesterday...what do they do? Open up the playbook and score 14 in a hurry (they actually could have won in regulation had Golson not thrown it right to a Pitt guy in the endzone when Eifert was wide open)

    LSU is not balanced, they are just able to match up size wise with Bama. Same with ND, and same with FSU. UGA and UF have the defenses to match up size wise, so I have them as 5 and 6.

    I posted this last night, the key to beating Bama is (as shown by LSU): Big/really talented front 7 Stable of talented RB's Strong armed QB

    KSU has....none of those

    Boom Baby!!!

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Boom Baby!!!

    flex

    cheers

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Boom Baby!!!

    Yep. Keep pretending ND is a good football team. Their best win is against a 2 loss Stanford team that has yet to play Oregon or Oregon State. Not counting OU since KSU beat them as well. But they got that Pitt kicker to miss a short field goal to survive. World beaters they are. Don't forget about that epic 17-14 victory over 4 loss BYU. How about that 20-17 win against 6 loss Purdue? Bad ass right there.

    This post was edited by MarineMountie on 11/4/2012 at 4:04 PM

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  • MarineMountie said...

    Yep. Keep pretending ND is a good football team. Their best win is against a 2 loss Stanford team that has yet to play Oregon or Oregon State. But they got that Pitt kicker to miss a short field goal to survive. World beaters they are. Don't forget about that epic 17-14 victory over 4 loss BYU. How about that 20-17 win against 6 loss Purdue? Bad ass right there.

    roflmao you mad, don't let your 3 game skid cloud your judgement or what Im saying

    I never said ND was great or even good, but they play a real mans game of football which is why they are in the game every week

    Do I think they win it all ? no

    Do I think they are better than FSU ? not really, not LSU, Bama, UF either

    But right now they are unbeaten and play real man football

    Not air it up and pray nobody scores over 40 on you

    Going into Norman and winning is impressive, you will figure that out when OU comes into your house and beats WVU by 50

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 11/4/2012 at 4:07 PM

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  • Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
    Alabama would be a 3-pt favorite vs Oregon; a 10-pt fav vs K-State & a 14-pt fav vs Notre Dame, per @DannySheridan1

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    roflmao you mad, don't let your 3 game skid cloud your judgement or what Im saying

    I never said ND was great or even good, but they play a real mans game of football which is why they are in the game every week

    Do I think they win it all ? no

    Do I think they are better than FSU ? not really, not LSU, Bama, UF either

    But right now they are unbeaten and play real man football

    Not air it up and pray nobody scores over 40 on you

    Going into Norman and winning is impressive, you will figure that out when OU comes into your house and beats WVU by 50

    KSU plays the same type of ball. Ball control, pound it, and keep pounding it. They can throw if they need to. Good defense as well. Not great.

    Air it out? Have you watched KSU this year?

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
    Alabama would be a 3-pt favorite vs Oregon; a 10-pt fav vs K-State & a 14-pt fav vs Notre Dame, per @DannySheridan1

    coffee

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  • MarineMountie said...

    Yep. Keep pretending ND is a good football team. Their best win is against a 2 loss Stanford team that has yet to play Oregon or Oregon State. Not counting OU since KSU beat them as well.

    Hmm...so, if we discount the OU game, who exactly has KSU beaten?

    and don't you dare say your panzy azz team or Tubby's bum squad

    Big 12 hasn't had a legitimate championship contender since Texas 08 and 09 (That UT team should have gotten the nod over OU, but i digress), and the only other one before that was VY's team.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS Alabama would be a 3-pt favorite vs Oregon; a 10-pt fav vs K-State & a 14-pt fav vs Notre Dame, per @DannySheridan1

    clap because initial Vegas line really determine who is the best team

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  • ifinnen said...

    clap because initial Vegas line really determine who is the best team

    Wait, you don't actually think that Notre Dame is better than Oregon do you?

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  • MarineMountie said...

    But they got that Pitt kicker to miss a short field goal to survive. World beaters they are. Don't forget about that epic 17-14 victory over 4 loss BYU. How about that 20-17 win against 6 loss Purdue? Bad ass right there.

    this is such a simple post...

    I have never said ND is better than Bama, or even FSU/LSU/UGA/UF

    They would have a fighting chance though, because their defense would keep them in the game, and ND wouldn't get overwhelmed at any point because they are just as big/bigger at every position.

    And, again, when the Irish NEED to score, they haven't been stopped yet.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    1- Alabama
    2- LSU
    3- ND
    4- Kansas St
    5- FSU
    6- UGA
    7- UF
    8- Oregon
    9- Oklahoma
    10- Texas A&M

    Lol with LSU at 2, they aren't in the top 10, other than that it's agreeable

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Wait, you don't actually think that Notre Dame is better than Oregon do you?

    Can't tell yet...So far, no I don't. ND wouldn't need 60 points to beat any team though

    Can't wait to see them play Stanford

    I do think ND would keep it close against Bama. Their offensive line wouldn't overwhelm the ND front 7, which is 90% of the battle with the Tide

    This post was edited by ifinnen on 11/4/2012 at 4:22 PM

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  • cuznchips28 said...

    Lol with LSU at 2, they aren't in the top 10, other than that it's agreeable

    you think there are 10 teams who would beat LSU on a neutral field?

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  • MarineMountie said...

    KSU plays the same type of ball. Ball control, pound it, and keep pounding it. They can throw if they need to. Good defense as well. Not great.

    Air it out? Have you watched KSU this year?

    Air it out was in regards to WVU and Oregon, I have K ST at #4 and IM willing to move them up but for now I like ND and LSU better

    LSU would beat K St down imo, and certainly Bama would

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  • cuznchips28 said...

    Lol with LSU at 2, they aren't in the top 10, other than that it's agreeable

    You would laugh at that, LSU looked like the 2nd best team in america imo

    Most think Bama is by far and away #1, and LSU was 1:40 second ( really just a 4th down conversion ) away from beating them

    That makes them the 2nd best team in america to me

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    That is fucking stupid. You would have a 2 loss LSU team behind a 1 loss Florida team who beat that LSU team?

    LSU had every advantage. Bye week prior to the game, home field in a largely hyped game.

    Whoa take it easy their potty mouth

    You are clearly mad, I know what I saw

    LSU did get beat by UF

    But the Giants lost to the Redskins twice last year, are you saying they weren't the best team in the NFL ? cause that would be pretty stupid

    This is why rankings or polls are stupid

    Facts are LSU looked great and proved once again, that they are the only team that has proven they belong on the same field with a clear cut #1 Bama

    When somebody else does so maybe I will consider them

    LSU had every advantage ? lol, except for being the better team

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 11/4/2012 at 5:12 PM

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  • LSU clearly played a good inspired game vs Alabama. It is ridiculous to assert that they should be ranked #2. Just like in 2002, USC was playing the best ball in the country at the end of the season, but in no way should they have been ranked higher than Miami or Ohio St.

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