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I don't think every coach in America could have gone 14-0 with Cam and 2010 Auburn but I think 90% of them could. That team was just talented enough to win 8 or so games by itself but when you add Cam to the mix, it should have won every game by double digits. That's how good he was, best I've seen at the college level. Still, Auburn found itself trailing by double digits in many games and had several close calls. That says to me that the game plan and preparation were shit but Cam was good enough to put the team on his shoulders and will his team to victory because he was insanely good. I also look at the fact that Chizik is 21-29 as a head coach outside of 2010 and that says to me that if he can go 14-0 with Cam then most coaches could.

I would take Petrino over Chizik without blinking an eye. Petrino has proven he can make a team great/elite at two different schools, neither being a traditionally elite team. He has won 10+ the past two years at Arkansas, went to a BCS bowl in 2010 and would have again last year if not for the dumb "2 teams from the same conference" BCS rule...still they finished top 5. He had Louisville in the BCS and a FG away from the national title game. Arkansas will have a hell of a team again this year and I bet it will beat Auburn down once again. Chizik has one year with the greatest player the college game has seen in a long time, otherwise he has been mediocre to awful...give me Petrino.

According to the top 100 recruits last year he was second only to Saban...

I know there is an article somewhere on that. Someone else can find it though.

By the way, Chizik took the exact same players that Tubbs had in 08 and an 5-8 season and turned it into a 8-5 season. He did not add a single player to the 09 team from the 08 team and some how got 3 extra wins. He must have done some sort of coaching.

Thread turned into a bunch of bama fans voting Petrino.

I never saw that coming.

your not the one that I am arguing with. that would be RTR13. He is the one stating that Chizik isn't a good coach because his players are playing to level of which they were recruited. That is the only reason why I used that term. I too would say there are only a handful of elites a given year. Chizik has recruited 1 in my opinion, that being Lemonier and if you can count Oline than you could add Dismukes since he was an instant starter and a damn good center. Everyone else is extremely talented but needs coaching. I would say Chizik recruits more extremely talented players than what Petrino does, making him a better recruiter. My point to RTR13 was he is basing an opinion that Chizik can't coach his players because the players he has recruited aren't NFL caliber players at this time (unlike Petrino's). I was simplying showing that Chizik only has 3 full recruiting classes to date. His first doesn't count because he was only on the job for 2 months before signing day and for those 2 months he had only hired about 25% of his staff. So Chizik's recruits are sophomores, redshirt freshman, a handful of juniors, and players who haven't even made it to campus. I would say some of the juniors that are on the team are NFL quality (Lemonier, Eguae, Davis off the top of my head). I don't know if Petrino has more or less because I don't keep up with them well enough. My point was you can't base your opinion of him based on the NFL ready of his recruits. His recruits are still pretty young. At the end of this season would be the best time to find out how his players are developing.

Dyer was a damn good player that Chizik recruited. Cam was pretty good that his staff recruited. Lemonier is pretty good that Chizik recruited.

Preseason pick are worthless. Absolutely worthless.

but recruiting rankings are always accurate?

you are by far the biggest homer fan i have dealt with on here yet. Chizik has been a coach for 5 years. 5 not 7-8. He has only been a head coach at AU for 3. Just want to make sure you are edumacated.

AU's roster is not comparable to Arky's right now because not all of the players on the roster are Chizik's. Juniors down to Freshman are Chizik and Redshirt Juniors to Seniors are Tubbs. Auburn still has 5'11" 211 lb'S?? I understand Bates is 210 but he is there for his leadership and experience. All other linebackers are 225+. And apparently AU hasn't recruited any SEC caliber RB's. And as a side note, 1 of those "2 four stay gusy who left SEC schools because they couldn't play" was Mike Blakely. Blakely never stepped foot on a practice field at Florida. Not because he couldn't play but because he transfered out so quickly he never had the chance. He wouldn't have left Florida had it not been for the former lying ass coach they had. He was betrayed and wanted to leave. Had nothing to do with not being able to play.

Auburn was picked to finish tenth in baseball this year. They're currently raping SEC teams (bama is next) into submission and 2nd in the league overall. I approve your point.

Jesus is a better recruiter hands down.

but i agree , Petrino is the better choice between he & C-dip.

just sexual assault?

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