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sf2k4 said...
Just saw on the news that UAB Medicine is going to start requiring that new employees take a nicotine test to prove they don't smoke before they'll be hired. Current employees who smoke will be "grandfathered in," so to speak. Now, I don't smoke and I don't particularly like when people smoke around me, but is this ethical? Tobacco, as bad as it is, isn't illegal. I could see someone banning smoking at work, but at all?
Maybe I'm weird, but I've heard a similar argument made against people that drink (IE: You should have to be alcohol free 100% to be hired, or companies should be allowed to require as such). IMO, what I do in my free, non-job time isn't my company's business when what I'm doing is legal (drugs, etc. are an argument for another topic).
Thoughts? Again, they're not saying you can't smoke at work, they're saying their new employees can't smoke. Ever. Period.
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CMXI said...
I don't see a problem with this being a pre-req for enrollment in a company-sponsored health-care plan, but no company should be able to mandate your behavior outside of work unless it affects your actual work product.
If the company doesn't want to hire smokers, I think it'd be much easier just to tell people up front that the company doesn't offer any smoke breaks at any point throughout the day. That'd probably weed enough people out in advance.
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captain brandon said...
I'm a smoke and I call BS. At my work place, we get two 15 minute breaks, 10 am and 3 pm. That's everyone, the front office people rotate so someone is always there to answer the phones and help customers. Yes, I go out back and "burn" one, but I don't take "smoke breaks".
I personally don't agree with this practice, not because I smoke, but the idea of a company telling me what I can and can't do in my personal life. I'm not your damn slave, when I'm off the clock and off company property, I will do what I damn well please. What's next, fat people, non-christains, companies not hiring because of political views, having a kid out of wedlock, where does it end?
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WillyDees said...
I disagree with it. Addiction is a physical illness, and smoking is no different. Would they turn down a diabetic if they were the most qualified? What about someone who struggles with bipolar disorder?
Who do you want delivering a high risk baby? The smoking obstetrician who has handled hundreds of similar cases or less qualified OB who was hired because he/she doesnt use nicotene?
Hospital stress management and EAPs are a joke. Healthcare is stressful as hell. The decisions, the hours, etc...
I suggest a happy medium. Viva could negotiate better rates by requiring new smokng employes to enroll in nicotene cessation programs. Tell UAB "The the better results, the bigger discount". Push this on.grandfathered employees as well. Give them incentives. Lower rates mean more $$$ for everyone.
Do not allow smoking on campus. Not sure how theyd enforce this at UAB...
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I don't smoke and I hate it. It affects other people and cigarette butts are a huge source of pollution. Alcohol only affects others once you get too drunk; drinking a beer or taking a shot doesn't mess with someone standing next to you (I am in no way advocating drunk driving). 













Smokers. 













Not hiring people who smoke: Ethical?