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MrWoodson said...
NSFMF on hoops domination. We heard something similar about football when Miami and VaTech jumped to the ACC nearly 20 years ago, but it didn't quite work out that way. Syracuse and Pitt are excellent pick-ups, but the B10, B12 and Big East all have been better hoops conferences than thee ACC the past couple of years. Even with Syracuse and Pitt, you are going to need some of the old guard in the bottom half of the league (NC State, Virginia, Clemson, Georgia Tech) to step up their games in order to win back the crown.
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NoVaNoles said...
20 years ago ? pretty sure they joined like what, 7 years ago ?
Shouldn't have said dominate you are right, BIG10 is no joke in bball my bad.... but the ACC just jumped the Big East and I would say the argument is between the two of us for who is the best... would you agree ? sounds like you would
I just got a little hasty, my main point was ACC basketball is getting much better and ND would help even more
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I don't think there is any question the BIG-10 is a better fit for ND all the way around...my question - and it's a HUGE one - Irish memories are deep and long, and speaking to more than a few of their monied alums and boosters over the years, they have not forgotten how the BIG-10 tried very hard to get them banned from CFB in the 40s. It forced them to independence. It is now so deeply ingrained in them.
I have always felt they would have to be backed up against the wall, with no other possible option, to join the BIG-10. Guess we'll find out.
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NoVaNoles said...
I'd take them no doubt, be a cool rivalry for us and overall they don't hurt the conference in any way
Ill never expect the ACC to be a great football conference or " the best " in terms of fans across americas opinion of us
But unlike many I don't give a shit, I just want FSU to be good or at the top and that is possible with or without anybody else
Adding ND to the ACC is great for the overall health of the conference which in turn helps FSU and its a cooler game to watch than Duke or a few others I won't name so bring them on
Solid basketball program too that would really make an interesting league with Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, UNC, GT, FSU and everybody else
I would love to have ND in the ACC, love it
And if they found their return glory and say Miami as well we would have 3 major powerhouses who all pretty much hate each other
Sounds like those games would draw a ton of money to the ACC, so again...... I would take ND for not much bad comes of it and clearly there is the potential for a big pay off if things go well
Saying no to ND is saying no to money, and in this business saying no to money is r-worded like a mutta fugga
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mriderblue12 said...
NoVa I couldn't agree more in terms of conference pride or chit like that. I just care about Michigan, anything else is just noise.
I also don't doubt ND fits best in ACC, just saying B1G is better academically (which again couldn't care less about) I am just baffled that someone would say that.
I wouldn't mind ND going to the ACC, our rivalry is fun, but pointless at this point. It gains neither school anything except a potential OOC loss. You can schedule cupcakes these days, doesn't matter 1 bit.
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NoVaNoles said...
Werd and honestly the academic thing is debatable
Im not gonna sit here and debate it cause I don't care and Im the last person that should be doing so cause its not my field
But GT, Duke, UNC, Miami, BC, Wake Forest and Virginia are big time academic institutions.... VT is no slouch either forgot about them
Even FSU for being one of the worst isn't nearly as bad as many think, it just seems that way cause are two rivals are ranked higher in the academic world which makes FSU look worse than they should
This post was edited by MrWoodson on 4/24/2012 at 7:22 PM
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IrishImpact said...
Doesn't matter if your considering Notre Dame. Our fanbase alone is probably bigger than Indiana's, Northwestern's, and Iowa's combined. Ratings my friend. Anyone would love to have us. Although this whole story is taken completely out of context, if we were to join a conference...I would want it to be the B1G.
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Yeh I don't think the B1G would turn down the potential money that ND brings because they haven't joined yet.
It's not about pride, it's about money. ND can basically choose where they go because of the coin they bring in, and rightfully so. ND would only raise B1G's profile with another traditional powerhouse joining in.
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Yeh I don't think the B1G would turn down the potential money that ND brings because they haven't joined yet.
It's not about pride, it's about money. ND can basically choose where they go because of the coin they bring in, and rightfully so. ND would only raise B1G's profile with another traditional powerhouse joining in.
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Yeh I don't think the B1G would turn down the potential money that ND brings because they haven't joined yet.
It's not about pride, it's about money. ND can basically choose where they go because of the coin they bring in, and rightfully so. ND would only raise B1G's profile with another traditional powerhouse joining in.
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