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Notre Dame to join the BIG-10

  • CO Dank said...

    I know ND wants to stay Indy, but why would'nt they join the richest conference in the NCAA when given the chance. I think they noticed that Nebraskas revenue jumped 50% after joining the B1G. It would be THE smartest move. I know they want to keep the tradition alive. But when Penn St. joined their revenue doubled, especially if ND can do what Penn St did and run the B1G the first year they joined. I don't see it happening but me being a Buckeye fan, I would be extremely proud of ND and the B1G.

    You think ND hasn't already been given the chance? ND wants to stay indy and if for some reason that doesn't work out then the ACC would most likely be their next choice. From everything coming out of the meetings, their independence is safe for now.

    dpfenny

  • CO Dank said...

    You can say what you want, I did'nt say this is a for sure thing. There has been talks about it. Google it or whatever if you have to. There is always a backup plan. If Notre Dame were to leave, I think BYU would join also with their recent success of somewhat. I don't believe Texas will join seeings how they are trying to pick the Big 12 back up. BC will never leave the ACC because they have recently been giving FSU a run for their money. They have more confidence after the Matt Ryan years.

    Don't know what you are arguing, but your BC argument in the ACC is pretty laughable.....for football anyway.

    They are 11-14 (7-9) the last 2 years in the ACC. The previous 2 years they were 17-10 (10-6). Pretty good little decline right now actually.

    The ACC is FSU, Clemson, and Va Tech and that is about it as far as football goes on the elite level. The rest of the conference can survive and it's not as horrible as people make it seem, but they have a lot of teams that are not capable of competing at the highest level right now, BC being one of them.

    BetterOff

  • CO Dank said...

    I know ND wants to stay Indy, but why would'nt they join the richest conference in the NCAA when given the chance. I think they noticed that Nebraskas revenue jumped 50% after joining the B1G. It would be THE smartest move. I know they want to keep the tradition alive. But when Penn St. joined their revenue doubled, especially if ND can do what Penn St did and run the B1G the first year they joined. I don't see it happening but me being a Buckeye fan, I would be extremely proud of ND and the B1G.

    Revenue is a temporary goal if you can't have success.

    Nebraska also just went from being the clear #3 team in their conference to probably at least 4th or 5th in line, possibly 6th if BOB works out at PSU. If ND goes to the B1G, they get lost in the shuffle, IMO. That is a big reason to stay independent, IMO. I think there is fear of being an also ran, along the lines of Purdue and the likes.

    BetterOff

  • The year before Nebraska left they were in their cnference Championship. Now theyre 4th at best. But the B1G still sucks right.
    BC was just in theyre conference Championship game 4-5 years ago. I didnt say they were dominant, I said they had a lil' success and they regained some confidence.

    Those who leave, will be champions. - Justin Boren

    COODanke

  • CO Dank said...

    The year before Nebraska left they were in their cnference Championship. Now theyre 4th at best. But the B1G still sucks right.
    BC was just in theyre conference Championship game 4-5 years ago. I didnt say they were dominant, I said they had a lil' success and they regained some confidence.

    I never said the B1G sucks dude. Calm down. I thought my point about Nebraska actually pointed out that its a stronger conference than the Big12, IMO.

    BetterOff

  • yea but other people thinks the B1G is comparable to the MAC.

    cheers

    This post was edited by COODanke on 4/27/2012 at 7:47 AM

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    COODanke

  • so is there no credible source for any of this bull honkey?

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  • BrodieMSU said...

    so is there no credible source for any of this bull honkey?

    Not at all.

    BetterOff

  • But it accomplished what I wanted...discussion. biggrin

    Domer's value their pride and independence more than they do money - which, by the way, they have plenty. They will hang on till the bitter end, because independence is so deeply ingrained in their identity.

    I also still think the BIG-10 would be the last place they go....too many powerful alums haven't forgotten the 1940s.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    But it accomplished what I wanted...discussion.

    Domer's value their pride and independence more than they do money - which, by the way, they have plenty. They will hang on till the bitter end, because independence is so deeply ingrained in their identity.

    I also still think the BIG-10 would be the last place they go....too many powerful alums haven't forgotten the 1940s.

    ND's doing fine with sports revenues. I am sure when they renegotiate the NBC contract, it will go up just like all of the other contracts have.

    They have their own lucrative television contract, rumored to garner them about $15m a year. However, Notre Dame finance professor Richard Sheehan, who was involved with the NBC negotiations, has said the rumored value is low. “The NBC contract is more lucrative than pretty much anyone knows,” he says.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by dpfenny on 4/27/2012 at 9:15 AM

    dpfenny

  • dpfenny said...

    ND's doing fine with sports revenues. I am sure when they renegotiate it will go up just like all of the other contracts have.

    ND is in dire need of a conf affiliation . the problem is that only perhaps the Big East is in dire need to add a ND .

    now if the Big10 really wanted to make a statement ....
    ND & Oklahoma would be great additions and make geographic sense.

    This post was edited by Crimson_Ghost on 4/27/2012 at 9:09 AM

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    ND is in dire need of a conf affiliation . the problem is thaty only the Big East is in dire need to add a ND .

    now if the Big10 really wanted to make a statement .... ND & Oklahoma would be great additions and make geographic sense.

    Oklahoma approached us but they wanted/had to bring Okie State. We do not do package deals unless that package can be sold separately on their own merit.

    ErnieMcCracken ●

  • Notre Dame will join the B1G eventually. I think that is inevitable at some point.

    The bigger question is who will join with them, and how many teams will the B1G go to, 14 or 16?

    supermario9

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    ND is in dire need of a conf affiliation . the problem is that only perhaps the Big East is in dire need to add a ND .

    now if the Big10 really wanted to make a statement .... ND & Oklahoma would be great additions and make geographic sense.

    Based on what has come out of the meeting between the conference commissioners and ND's AD this week, ND's independence is fine. Revenue is great. Not sure what the "dire need" could be.

    This post was edited by dpfenny on 4/27/2012 at 9:19 AM

    dpfenny

  • supermario9 said...

    Notre Dame will join the B1G eventually. I think that is inevitable at some point.

    The bigger question is who will join with them, and how many teams will the B1G go to, 14 or 16?

    Many believe ND would go to the ACC over the B1G

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_notre_dame_should_jump_to_acc_091911

    dpfenny

  • dpfenny said...

    Based on what has come out of the meeting between the conference commissioners and ND's AD this week, ND's independence is fine. Revenue is great. Not sure what the "dire need" could be.

    ND is irrelevant standing alone & have been so for years .

    Crimson_Ghost

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    ND is irrelevant standing alone & have been so for years .

    That is why they are the only team with their own television contract to show every home game nationwide. That is why every one of their away games gets picked up for television. That is why their AD is in talks right now with all of the conference commissioners about a playoff. Is your teams AD at the meeting? Nope. That is why they are second in the country in sports revenue. You might want to look up the definition of "irrelevant".

    dpfenny

  • dpfenny said...

    Many believe ND would go to the ACC over the B1G

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_notre_dame_should_jump_to_acc_091911

    Yup...never fails to amaze me, with the close proximity to South Bend, BIG-10 people know little about the Irish and their values. While the BIG-10 should be an obvious choice for many reasons, there was too much dirty play from the conference in the past.

    Domers are loyal to those that stood by them (Navy), even the ones they hate the most (USC), by sticking to the rivalry when they were kicking our ass.

    All this will make for interesting discussion between Trojans and Irish at our traditional joint fundraiser at the Bonaventure the Friday before the big game in Los Angeles .

    This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 4/27/2012 at 9:33 AM

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  • dpfenny said...

    Many believe ND would go to the ACC over the B1G

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_notre_dame_should_jump_to_acc_091911

    Dan Wetzel wrote an article saying he thinks ND should join the ACC. That isn't the same as many people believing ND would go to the ACC over the B1G.

    ND is only going to join a conference if their hand is forced. Once their hand gets forced, they are not turning down the B1G for the ACC. Sorry, but that is just a fantasy.

    supermario9

  • dpfenny said...

    You might want to look up the definition of "irrelevant".

    ir*rel*vant
    1. not relevant in todays college football picture

    2011 = 8-5
    2010 = 8-5
    2009 = 6-6
    2008 = 7-6
    2007 = 3-7
    2006= 10-3
    2005 = 9-3
    2004 = 6-6
    2003 = 5-7

    but hey the revenue is good

    Crimson_Ghost

  • supermario9 said...

    Dan Wetzel wrote an article saying he thinks ND should join the ACC. That isn't the same as many people believing ND would go to the ACC over the B1G.

    ND is only going to join a conference if their hand is forced. Once their hand gets forced, they are not turning down the B1G for the ACC. Sorry, but that is just a fantasy.

    Well being as I am a ND fan and you are not I read much more about ND. I am a member of the ND Alumni Club and speak with Alumni. I am on the ND boards and read posts from ND alumni, etc. I doubt you are either. ND will do what is in the best interest of its University.

    Many more articles besides Wentzels.

    http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/viewpoint/nd-to-the-acc-1.2601389#.TnobMux42So

    dpfenny

  • HAHAHA! THE BIG TEN SUCKS SO BAD!

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    CptAUmerica21 ●

  • Crimson_Ghost said...

    ir*rel*vant 1. not relevant in todays college football picture

    2011 = 8-5 2010 = 8-5 2009 = 6-6 2008 = 7-6 2007 = 3-7 2006= 10-3 2005 = 9-3 2004 = 6-6 2003 = 5-7

    but hey the revenue is good

    They are absolutely relevant in "today's college football picture". What other school has their AD at the talks for the future of college football?

    dpfenny

  • dpfenny said...

    They are absolutely relevant in "today's college football picture". What other school has their AD at the talks for the future of college football?

    That's hilarious.

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  • dpfenny said...

    They are absolutely relevant

    the Naval Acad agrees coffee

    Crimson_Ghost

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