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OT: Golf Swing Help

  • So...I was never very good at golf, but I could play well enough to have some fun (as opposed to looking for golf balls all day). About 3 years ago, I had a bad shoulder problem that didn't require surgery but took forever to heal, and so I didn't play at all. Now, I'm not dealing with pain anymore, but it seems it's NOT like riding a bike. Grip feels off, swing feels foreign, etc. It's like starting over. Any suggestions other than taking lessons? Youtube series to remind me basics of swing? Or should I read some golf magazines for beginners to relearn the basics? I was probably a legit 18 or so handicap before, but on a tough course, I'm probably at least a 40 now.

    TIA

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    TheT12

  • Start with half swing, punch shots and try to get back to solid contact.

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    TJMMBuckeyes

  • TJMMBuckeyes said...

    Start with half swing, punch shots and try to get back to solid contact.

    Makes sense. Basically stop before backswing and before follow thru?

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    TheT12

  • Don't concentrate yet on hitting the ball for distance. Just go out to the driving range (I hate the DR) and take some easy swings concentrating on making good contact and getting your body used to the golf swing again. Remember, a good swing doesn't mean that you're trying to hit the ball as much as it does lining up correctly and making a good swing. If you do the former and the latter you'll start to make good contact more and more. If you've done it pretty well before it should come back before long.

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    goodnews

  • goodnews said...

    Don't concentrate yet on hitting the ball for distance. Just go out to the driving range (I hate the DR) and take some easy swings concentrating on making good contact and getting your body used to the golf swing again. Remember, a good swing doesn't mean that you're trying to hit the ball as much as it does lining up correctly and making a good swing. If you do the former and the latter you'll start to make good contact more and more. If you've done it pretty well before it should come back before long.

    Thanks. I'm going to play a nice course w/ a friend next Saturday, so I wanted to hit the DR at least 3 times between now and then. I'm not easily embarrassed, but I'd hate to know I was holding up a group behind me while I take 4 drops.

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    TheT12

  • TheT12 said...

    Thanks. I'm going to play a nice course w/ a friend next Saturday, so I wanted to hit the DR at least 3 times between now and then. I'm not easily embarrassed, but I'd hate to know I was holding up a group behind me while I take 4 drops.

    Not being easily embarassed is half the battle. Work on hitting your drives well. Regardless of how bad you play the rest of the hole, if you can hit your longest club consistently well then you forego a lot of the embarassment. You'll tend to get in the most trouple off the tee box. And, don't take 4 drops. A gentleman will take the customary drop, ala the rules, and then get out of the way. That's just my humble opinion.

    Good luck and enjoy yourself.

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    goodnews

  • goodnews said...

    Not being easily embarassed is half the battle. Work on hitting your drives well. Regardless of how bad you play the rest of the hole, if you can hit your longest club consistently well then you forego a lot of the embarassment. You'll tend to get in the most trouple off the tee box. And, don't take 4 drops. A gentleman will take the customary drop, ala the rules, and then get out of the way. That's just my humble opinion.

    Good luck and enjoy yourself.

    Good advice. I have considered hitting a smaller club off the tee just to get in the fairway. Most holes, a 180-200 yard drive will still give you at minimum an easy layup for a 3rd shot to the green. Would you agree 180 in the fairway is better than dropping at 260?

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    TheT12

  • Grip your clubs super tight, like your holding onto your child who's falling out a second story window. Then swing as fast as you can.

    That always works for me.

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  • Due51 said...

    Grip your clubs super tight, like your holding onto your child who's falling out a second story window. Then swing as fast as you can.

    That always works for me.

    I did that the first time I ever played golf when I was a teenager. Very, very shitty course. Guy had a trailer across the street from the first hole fairway. I sliced the hell out of it, hit the front of his trailer like a mortar round. Ball was still in his front yard, so I went over to retrieve it. He came storming out screaming about all these "Goldarn kids hittin my traila and then trespassin to get dere balls back". I told him he should consider relocating, and that it shouldn't be difficult since his house has wheels. My friends practically drug me out of there. Probably saved my life.

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    TheT12

  • goodnews said...

    Not being easily embarassed is half the battle. Work on hitting your drives well. Regardless of how bad you play the rest of the hole, if you can hit your longest club consistently well then you forego a lot of the embarassment. You'll tend to get in the most trouple off the tee box. And, don't take 4 drops. A gentleman will take the customary drop, ala the rules, and then get out of the way. That's just my humble opinion.

    Good luck and enjoy yourself.

    sounds like good advice to me

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    shoeless7777

  • Slow your swing down half speed

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  • i tried that and it didnt work for some reason - could be that i am not a very good player shrug ; i always have to accelerate through the approach to the ball or i shank it off to the right ...bad

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  • TheT12 said...

    Good advice. I have considered hitting a smaller club off the tee just to get in the fairway. Most holes, a 180-200 yard drive will still give you at minimum an easy layup for a 3rd shot to the green. Would you agree 180 in the fairway is better than dropping at 260?

    Absolutely. A couple of years ago I got outp[layed by a 76 year old man who couldn't hit a drive farther than 180 yards. The thing is he hit every club straight and had that old man accuracy on the greens. Meanwhile, I hit a few beautiful (if i say so myself) drives in the 240-260 range, all with nice draws. I also hit a few soaring apprach shots and putted for birdie. The problem was i also had a few double a triple bogey holes b/c some of those drives ended up in the woods and I had a couple of those dreaded 3-putt greens. All the friendly old fella could talk about was how much he enjoyed watching me hit the ball. I shot an 86, he shot an 83.

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  • rolltide06 said...

    Slow your swing down half speed

    Like an earlier poster said, hit punch shots. However, try to hit them with your hands in front of the ball at impact. When you have your hands out in front at impact, you'll start hitting down and through the ball, taking a divot in front of the ball. This will improve your game tremendously and nearly eliminate fat (and thin) shots.

    This is probably the biggest difference I see between good players and hacks. Hacks try and pick the ball off the ground. Your timing has to be great for a good shot. All pros and better golfers hit down and through the ball taking a divot past the ball. Do some youtube video searches on impact position or clubhead lag, etc.

    Jack33

  • never knew that - good advice and i am going to try it next time out ; i hit all my shots way too high b/c i literally pick the ball off the ground on the upswing i guess

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    shoeless7777

  • To get lag(hands in front at impact) make sure you set your wrists at the top, hold that angle betweens your forearm and the club head all the way until impact(make sure your right hand is pointing towards the ground, left knuckles as well), and you release your right hand a millisecond after contact.

    It'll take some practice but you'll be deadly with your short irons if you do that correctly.

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    TJMMBuckeyes

  • The way to get the most height on an iron shot is to hit DOWN on the ball. If you're hitting the ball on the upswing with your irons, I don't think there's any way you're hitting the ball way too high.

    Btw - you're probably hitting it thin a lot. On your downswing, holding that wrist cocked as long as possible will help you hit down on it and also add a ton of distance.

    AbsenteeTrojan

  • Jack33 said...

    Like an earlier poster said, hit punch shots. However, try to hit them with your hands in front of the ball at impact. When you have your hands out in front at impact, you'll start hitting down and through the ball, taking a divot in front of the ball. This will improve your game tremendously and nearly eliminate fat (and thin) shots.

    This is probably the biggest difference I see between good players and hacks. Hacks try and pick the ball off the ground. Your timing has to be great for a good shot. All pros and better golfers hit down and through the ball taking a divot past the ball. Do some youtube video searches on impact position or clubhead lag, etc.

    Very nice, thank you. I'll work on that. At this point, it's not like I'll ever be a pro, and I just want to work on a consistent, repeatable swing.

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    TheT12

  • I really do appreciate ya'll helping me out. Going to the range tomorrow afternoon and will try a couple of these things. Particularly having my hands in front of the clubhead at impact and working on half swings without power to gain consistency. I'm out for the night most likely, but I'll check back in tomorrow.

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    TheT12

  • AbsenteeTrojan said...

    The way to get the most height on an iron shot is to hit DOWN on the ball. If you're hitting the ball on the upswing with your irons, I don't think there's any way you're hitting the ball way too high.

    Btw - you're probably hitting it thin a lot. On your downswing, holding that wrist cocked as long as possible will help you hit down on it and also add a ton of distance.

    great to know , thanks again for the advice

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    shoeless7777

  • TheT12 said...

    I really do appreciate ya'll helping me out. Going to the range tomorrow afternoon and will try a couple of these things. Particularly having my hands in front of the clubhead at impact and working on half swings without power to gain consistency. I'm out for the night most likely, but I'll check back in tomorrow.

    Prior to even hitting a ball do some practice swings. Take the club to the top and stop. Deliberately turn your hips/belt buckle toward your target before bringing club downwards (yes, you are overexageratting at this point). Some call this "uncoiling". Keep right elbow tucked. This will promote an "inside-out" swing which generates power on it's own. It will also help extinguish the slice. Also exagerrate following thru to negate the Arnold Palmer effect.

    I read these tips in Golf Digest many years ago. They actually recommended buying a bag of the whiffle golf balls and doing the drill in the back yard with a 7 iron in order to groove the swing. The whiffle balls will spin like a real ball and give you an idea on how you are "shaping" the shot.

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    jjspartan

  • thats a great idea as i hate going to the range and wasting a bunch of those balls doing drills , thanks spartan +1

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    shoeless7777

  • shoeless7777 said...

    i tried that and it didnt work for some reason - could be that i am not a very good player shrug ; i always have to accelerate through the approach to the ball or i shank it off to the right ...bad

    You always want to go full speed, go as hard as you can until you lose balance from your swing, tone it down 5% and always swing at that speed. Because when you do get your swing worked out and you amp up your swing speed, you're going to end up having to relearn your swing.

    But like others have suggested, practice, practice, practice. Look up some swing vision videos of some pros, and try and mimmick what they do. At first just work on your grip, stance and keeping your swing on plane. Start ggoing 1/2 swing until you start getting a consistent solid contact on the ball from your 9 iron, to your 5 woods. Then amp it up to 75%, repeat, then full swing. Then start using your 3 woods, get that to solid contact, then move up to your driver. I wouldn't even carry a 1/3 Wood until you get a consistent good swing with the rest of your clubs.

    If you can, put a video on Youtube and I can analyze the swing for you and tell what you need fix, and drills you can do to fix it. If you really want to get good, practice the he'll out of your short game, everything 100 yards and in. If you're playing a empty course. Everytime I get into 100 yards, I will play 4+ balls, for the practice.

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    Hoffelcopter

  • thanks Hoffel appreciate the help big time

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    shoeless7777

  • jjspartan said...

    Prior to even hitting a ball do some practice swings. Take the club to the top and stop. Deliberately turn your hips/belt buckle toward your target before bringing club downwards (yes, you are overexageratting at this point). Some call this "uncoiling". Keep right elbow tucked. This will promote an "inside-out" swing which generates power on it's own. It will also help extinguish the slice. Also exagerrate following thru to negate the Arnold Palmer effect.

    I read these tips in Golf Digest many years ago. They actually recommended buying a bag of the whiffle golf balls and doing the drill in the back yard with a 7 iron in order to groove the swing. The whiffle balls will spin like a real ball and give you an idea on how you are "shaping" the shot.

    These are great tips, forgot about wiffle balls. These will give a much better indication of how much bad spin you're actually putting on the ball. As range balls wont give you as much feedback as a normal golf ball would, as generally they are very crappy balls. Balls you would maybe pay $5/dozen.

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