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sf2k4 said...
So when the cheap labor helps farmers or contractors it's wrong and "Leftish" but when Microsoft or Nike benefits, it's the power of Capitalism?
You're right, I do care about livable wages and I think everyone should be paid as such. I also believe in bringing as many jobs as possible (read: all) back to the U.S. But forgive me for turning a blind eye to the small business benefitting from cheap labor before I will the huge conglomerate that does.
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It's not just small businesses. There really isn't much we can do about how much Nike pays workers in China, but we do have control over how much people are paid here. You are advocating helping american business by screwing the average worker on our own soil. The only difference between that and sending jobs overseas is the location.
Your logic is flawed, you hate off-shoring but are content with the same thing happening in your back yard. That's just stupid.
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rms02d said...
Alright basic economIcs stupid....
Scarcity....
Look up the definition...Of scarcity stupid.
Every American has a finite amount of mOney to spend each year on a finite amount of resources.
If we deported "illegals" the cost of your new house, your vegetables. Your meats, most of the stuff you buy that's made in an American factory would increase by a rather small percentage. Maybe 10-20%. This increase would decrease your overall purchasing power, along with millions of other Americans.
The macro-economic effects of this would cause retards like yourself to rail about Obama, while failing to understand that deporting 11,000,000 low skill minimum wage workers just increased the costs of most of the shit you buy at the grocery store.
Again I envy your stupidity. If I was as Stupid as Troytide, life would be so much easier.
I wish I was a retarded Alabama fan, alas I have a brain.
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sf2k4 said...
First off, making $4 an hour in America is a hell of a lot better than making a nickel an hour in China. Second, if we're really that concerned with curbing "government leaches," why don't we start with those people that don't actually work a hard day's work?
But do you really want to know why I'm against deporting these people? Because they do work, and they work hard, and they do jobs that other Americans feel they are above doing. Quite frankly, we could take a page out of their books when it comes to earning a day's pay. I'd be quite content with them making minimum wage; they've earned it.
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TroyTide said...
All non-sense. The $4 compared to a nickel is irrelevant as the effect on American jobs is the same.
And now Americans won't work for next to nothing, but they will work if the price is right.
The last paragraph is just emotion filled non-sense that has no place in a rational discussion. And btw, Americans work plenty hard ourselves.
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TroyTide said...
Wow. In those discussions I don't think I have ever referred to the entire US population in that regard.
Your argument has strayed into the absurd now, see you in another thread, some other time.
Anybody else wants to a have a rational discussion that doesn't involve absurdities and talking points I am willing but I won't respond to the bull**** that has been thrown at me by the last two posters any longer.
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Wow. In those discussions I don't think I have ever referred to the entire US population in that regard.
Your argument has strayed into the absurd now, see you in another thread, some other time.
Anybody else wants to a have a rational discussion that doesn't involve absurdities and talking points I am willing but I won't respond to the bull**** that has been thrown at me by the last two posters any longer.
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justinboze said...
So you think I should take people who live at home with their parents, have no education, have no work experience, have never purchased a house or car, have no credit, etc seriously when they try to tell me what is best for the country and what I need?
Everything that you post is a sarcastic deflection and brings nothing to the conversation. See if you can respond to this without an immature deflection or calling me a name.
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Way to create a strawman there.
What I'm saying is that your political opinion isn't necessarily more valid than a teenager's just because you've managed not to die up until this point in time. To dismiss teenagers and their opinions because of a lack of life experience is just foolish, and it's that attitude (among other things) that lost the Republicans the 2008 election.
Sure, there are plenty of teenagers who know nothing about politics. Of course, there are also tons of adults who know nothing about politics. Just because someone isn't yet 20 years old doesn't mean that they don't know what they're talking about.
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Would you take a single person seriously that was a marriage counselor?
Would you listen to someone's opinion about Canada if they had never been there?
I wouldn't, but to each his own, I guess. Before you try to spin this to fit your agenda, my point is that people with no experience on finances, budgets, taxes, etc should not be taken seriously when they comment on fixing the economy. That is one example of many on how experience gives a person more perspective on things, instead of repeating what they heard or talking out of their ass.
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justinboze said...
Do you think he read a book and became a good coach or do you think he got where he is from coaching EXPERIENCE? I agree with your job comment but my comments were based on dude saying life experience isn't necessary to be taken seriously. Someone who talks out of their ass without the experience to know what they are talking about is not taken seriously by me.
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Would you take a single person seriously that was a marriage counselor?
Would you listen to someone's opinion about Canada if they had never been there?
I wouldn't, but to each his own, I guess. Before you try to spin this to fit your agenda, my point is that people with no experience on finances, budgets, taxes, etc should not be taken seriously when they comment on fixing the economy. That is one example of many on how experience gives a person more perspective on things, instead of repeating what they heard or talking out of their ass.
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